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Can't lie and say I didn't laugh a couple of times. Best joke however is at 1:14

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zgjc_ct-zlc
This almost certainly going to be the best thing Marvel squeeze out this year. Disney must be wondering how many IP[s they can sell to recoup their losses.

My offer's £50 for Radioactive Man. Non-negotiable, you wait till later than 2025 it's going to be £25.

The fact Disney’s not using their old comic genres to pump out cheapo filler content is beyond retarded to me. Make a D+ show with the Rawhide Kid set in the old west, that way it doesn’t fuck with your continuity, or even take the old Patsy Walker comics, from before they made her Hellcat, and adapt that into a romance show for the laaaydeeezzzz!
 
Blade already lost its second director. This project is looking to be dead on arrival.
I found this tweet and I think it captures the most likely issue perfectly.
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MCU Writers and execs refuse to make a superhero movie that's just outright cool, one that doesn't take the piss out of itself every 5 minutes, or mocks the source material. The friction is obviously that they're trying to find a way to make it into a self parody and it's just not possible to do that with Blade and still expect people to go see it.
 
If Blade or Blade 2 (just ignoring Blade Trinity for now) was written by modern MCU writers like, any scene where he caught his sunglasses out of the air and put them back on would probably be followed by Blade making a fourth-wall-breaking quip about how, "Hey, that was pretty slick, right? :none of the henchmen respond: "Ooooh, tough crowd."

I'm tired of every other property being written with smirky quippy dialogue, by people who write like they're trying to outsmart TVTropes. "Heh, I guess I Hung A Lampshade on that moment, right! Shout out to my peeps at TVTropes.org!"
 
Why would the multiverse shit even matter. Would Captain Marvel or whatever the rest that are active give a fuck about a nest of vampires operating in, say, Houston or Aspen or whatever.

Not to mention if you want to leverage the multiverse bullshit, just set it in a universe that none of the MCU shit has showed up in yet. Then if you want to tie it in, have Dr. Strange or whoever is left that can jump between them show up and help with the big bad or just tell Blade "I think you can help us."

I mean I don't give a shit, I hope it never gets made, and I doubt it will, but to pretend like any of it is difficult is fucking retarded.

Which I guess is par for the course.
 
Not to mention if you want to leverage the multiverse bullshit, just set it in a universe that none of the MCU shit has showed up in yet. Then if you want to tie it in, have Dr. Strange or whoever is left that can jump between them show up and help with the big bad or just tell Blade "I think you can help us."
yeah iirc didn't Tomb Of Dracula start out more as its own thing that slowly merged into the Marvel universe as-needed, like how Groot started out as a monster comic on-off?
 
Everything has to be a part of the multiverse nowadays, it's getting annoying. Look what happened to that last Mummy film that's supposedly a foundation for the Dark Universe. That movie was too busy setting up the next films that the story got muddled and killed any interest for those future films too.

Blade & Blade II ('cause Blade Trinity sucks balls) as it is was fine and it didn't have to rely on a multiverse to tell a story. I wish those execs from Marvel/DC would understand that for once but they're already creatively bankrupt at this point.
 
Remember how quaint it was when the only fucking setup they had to do in these films was have Samuel L Jackson show up for a minute at the end and say "Avengers" or have a 30 second shot that pans to Thors hammer?
 
They will produce bomb after bomb after bomb until they get rid of DEI trash. They still have too much money to feel the negative consequences of the DEI disaster they created.
I'm more pessimistic than this. I think Hollywood has lost so much good will as of late that even if they got rid of the DEI, they'll still lose money. We'll have to see what happens when Deadpool and Wolverine come out.
 
One thing that breaks the immersion for me is how self contained the factions are in comics. City A is attacked by Alien Invader B. How do City A vampires react to that mayem? Vampire C attacks Human D only to find out that Human D is a super and Vampire C gets crushed. Are vampires in the setting living in fear because of all the supers running about? Do they have to be more careful? Do they invest in alternative ways of feeding such as bloodbanks or synthetic blood? When Blade becomes part of the MCU, it will create world building problem.
 
One thing that breaks the immersion for me is how self contained the factions are in comics. City A is attacked by Alien Invader B. How do City A vampires react to that mayem? Vampire C attacks Human D only to find out that Human D is a super and Vampire C gets crushed. Are vampires in the setting living in fear because of all the supers running about? Do they have to be more careful? Do they invest in alternative ways of feeding such as bloodbanks or synthetic blood? When Blade becomes part of the MCU, it will create world building problem.
Not really. Superpowered people aren't that common in the MCU. Most superheroes are scientists who built their own shit, trained soldiers or aliens. I don't think a vampire would have any trouble taking out Black Widow or Ant-Man, and they're probably smart enough not to try to bite a mean looking blue lady with cybernetic implants. So yeah, I don't think its a problem.

Of course, that all changes when you add in retarded shit like Miss Marbles and her muslim magic, Shang-Chi and his oriental magic, or Echo and her indian magic. And mutants. But I'm sure once you add mutants to the equation, its only a matter of time before you have mutant vampires and shit.
 
Not really. Superpowered people aren't that common in the MCU. Most superheroes are scientists who built their own shit, trained soldiers or aliens. I don't think a vampire would have any trouble taking out Black Widow or Ant-Man, and they're probably smart enough not to try to bite a mean looking blue lady with cybernetic implants. So yeah, I don't think its a problem.

Of course, that all changes when you add in retarded shit like Miss Marbles and her muslim magic, Shang-Chi and his oriental magic, or Echo and her indian magic. And mutants. But I'm sure once you add mutants to the equation, its only a matter of time before you have mutant vampires and shit.
It's not that big an issue if you just assume they all lie low in Europe or some shit.


Really this is the same issue they had with she hulk. It's a vampire movie... And they don't know how to write a vampire movie. They can't do underworld. They don't know how.
 
Not really. Superpowered people aren't that common in the MCU. Most superheroes are scientists who built their own shit, trained soldiers or aliens. I don't think a vampire would have any trouble taking out Black Widow or Ant-Man, and they're probably smart enough not to try to bite a mean looking blue lady with cybernetic implants. So yeah, I don't think its a problem.

Of course, that all changes when you add in retarded shit like Miss Marbles and her muslim magic, Shang-Chi and his oriental magic, or Echo and her indian magic. And mutants. But I'm sure once you add mutants to the equation, its only a matter of time before you have mutant vampires and shit.
It's not that big an issue if you just assume they all lie low in Europe or some shit.


Really this is the same issue they had with she hulk. It's a vampire movie... And they don't know how to write a vampire movie. They can't do underworld. They don't know how.
A vampire is not going to notice a difference between being atomised by a repulsor blast vs being atomised by eye beams or magic. They will just die. Many superpowered people look like normal humans when not in costume. The MCU wants to intoduce as many thing from the comics as possible. Vampire attacks random guy and said guy pops up metalic claws or transforms into a not very jolly green giant. Vampire dies.

Dr. Strange, Spiderman, many X-men, Ghost Rider, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist etc etc look like normal humans most of the time. Vampires should start to assume that there are good chances that they will run into one such fellow and get fucked.

Not to mention that big events that leave cities devastated should affect vampires. Their infrastructure is destroyed leaving many homeless and incapable of hiding as easily as they used to, a few of their key members were burned by alien rayguns and evidence of the existense of vampires should be discovered amongst the destroyed buildings. You cannot introduce a thing like vampires this late so easily.
 
A vampire is not going to notice a difference between being atomised by a repulsor blast vs being atomised by eye beams or magic. They will just die. Many superpowered people look like normal humans when not in costume. The MCU wants to intoduce as many thing from the comics as possible. Vampire attacks random guy and said guy pops up metalic claws or transforms into a not very jolly green giant. Vampire dies.
All that may be so but on a planet closing in on 8bn people it doesn't matter so much if there are a few hundred super powered beings scattered amongst them. Even in a scenario where vampires do absolutely nothing to assess their prey before sinking their fangs in, the sheer statistical significance is negligible. Let alone the fact that any vampire would presumably look at Thor or Wolverine (incl. comics version) and think: "nah, I'll chomp on that old lady who lives alone in that apartment.". Even without superpowers they're going to think that eating Tony Stark or Captain America is going to attract way more attention than they need. Sure you can give me examples of people on the downlow like Peter Parker but again, we return to the sheer odds which are now even further reduced.

There's no incompatibility between a world with vampires and a world with superhumans. One might argue that there is if the superhumans have some game-changing way of eliminating the vampires, but a vampire is not going to notice a difference between being atomised by a repulsor blast vs. a flamethrower. At best, you can throw in some Deus Ex Machina stuff Strange might pull casting "Nomorus Vampirae" if you want but that's just pulling stuff from the writer's arse they can do with anything.

Nah, vampires in the MCU is fine.

But I got more! We suppose that vampires have been around a while. In The Eternals - my favourite movie of the MCU - the deviants have been evolving and the big deal with their leader is that he has developed the ability to drain others of their energy and powers. There are various vampire style hints about it and at the end he is dispersed in a way that sets up the idea of the power being spread. I believe the original intent was to set up vampires in the MCU. In which case they're not something that has been hiding in the background for a long time but a new phenomenon. IMO, that would be a nice change.

Dr. Strange, Spiderman, many X-men, Ghost Rider, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist etc etc look like normal humans most of the time. Vampires should start to assume that there are good chances that they will run into one such fellow and get fucked.
No, there are not good chances. See above. There are less than 1:1000,000,000 chances.

Not to mention that big events that leave cities devastated should affect vampires. Their infrastructure is destroyed leaving many homeless and incapable of hiding as easily as they used to, a few of their key members were burned by alien rayguns and evidence of the existense of vampires should be discovered amongst the destroyed buildings. You cannot introduce a thing like vampires this late so easily.
IMO, the chaos of major disasters is a bonanza for feeding and re-establishing cover stories, identities, etc. You have programs for people who lost their papers and identities. Someone to testify who you are? No - both your parents died in the building's collapse and your aunt has been re-located to the Red Cross centre upstate. Someone went missing 'cause you ate them? Lost in the noise of a thousand other displaced and missing people. Hell, toss some rubble on top of the bodies you leave behind and by the time they're dug out nobody will know the cause of death was bloodloss.

But again, see comment about The Eternals and the possibilty of adding vampires in late stage. They wont do it, but I think they were thinking about it.

There's no real reason they can't do Blade. It's just that some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.
 
Yeah, Eternals was not many peoples thing. But yes, running into superpowered being in the MCU will be a bit rarer than in the comics. Though with ancient orders of wizards that are used to dealing with supernatural monsters and beings like the Ghost Rider that can basically detect evil, things are going to be more complicated for vampires.

Things like those are ought to be addressed. We cannot go to business as usual just like that. It is a shared universe, afterall.
 
Honestly, the bigger problem Vampires have is that everything in the MCU apparently has to happen in New York. Yeah, they could have Vampires be in literally any other state - DC would be funny if not too on the nose - and not step on any toes, but nope, New York or nothing.

Which I guess is in line with the comics. Random Tangent - the fuck would insurance rates look like for MCU New York?
There's no real reason they can't do Blade. It's just that some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.
Part of it is just down to tonal issues, but the bigger problems are tying it into the rest of the MCU, and the fact that the Snipes Blade movies will likely just be better regardless of how they've aged (or you opinion on Blade 3 - I liked parts of it, but I like Bad Movies, my opinion doesn't count). X-Men are likely going to have a similar problem (ie. "Wait Vampires/Mutants have allegedly been a thing for decades, then where the fuck were all of you?"), but they're at least more likely to make money on name value alone.

Add in the lack of talent on the directing side - this feels like one of those movies that will be quietly cancelled and Disney is just going to hope people forget about.
 
I imagine that MCU New York must be the cheapest place to live in because of all the superhero damages. Probably the same reason for why people live in any city that has a high rate of Superhero happenings
 
All MCU vamps have to do is restrict their diets to conventionally attractive, non-danger haired white people and they'll be able to feed in peace forever. Probably even get hero music.
 
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