Marvel Cinematic Universe

[namelesstacotruck]

You can't have Black Cat as a romantic interest for Peter in the MCU because Tom Holland is tiny and looks like a weirdly aged 14 year old. Black Cat has to be a tall and highly athletic woman. And frankly, an adult. The pairing would just feel icky.

This is modern Disney. They will get the woman who played Rose Tico to own the chuds

 

[Nick Obre]

At least he puts them out of their misery right after that (fuck me these movies need an R version).

@Nick Obre
that first page is from the Ultimate continuity. Im pretty sure mainline Prof. X isn't telekinetic

You're right, it is.
And the second picture I've come to remember is Cable actually doing the TK.
There's been other ambiguous instances, like him casually levitating a pendrive early into the Krakoa era, but it could be said it was Magneto and he just received it, or pictured on the third image, disassembling Nimrod, some have said it's just a "psy blast", which I don't buy, but it's a possibility (incidentally, very early in X-Men history, Xavier attacks a Sentinel with his mind powers; how does a telepathic attack affect a robot I don't know, but it could be considered an early manifestation of low level telekinesis).
And then you have Cassandra, who is supposed to have the same powers as Xavier, if only maybe stronger or just unrestrained, having TK.

But if before it wasn't unambiguous that he has TK, it is now:



Thing is, this is very recent. It could be that the writers got confused (like me!) with Ultimate Xavier. Or it could be that Krakoan resurrection has a side effect (as seen with Synch) of some powers getting upgraded or bug-fixed, in which case Xavier had it, just weak, and now it's more significant.

Edit: proof:

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

You can't have Black Cat as a romantic interest for Peter in the MCU because Tom Holland is tiny and looks like a weirdly aged 14 year old. Black Cat has to be a tall and highly athletic woman. And frankly, an adult. The pairing would just feel icky.

Very optimistic. She'll be a flat mutt like MJ was, and almost certainly a lesbian. While I like her design she's pretty forgettable character that's too close to Batman's version.

I'm so fucking sick of shitty remixes of old-school classics in general. It's bad enough when I turn on the radio, hear some familiar old tunes and think "oh nice, haven't heard that one in years" only to get blasted by some talentless hack raping my ears with their "reimagining".

You can see how bad the state of music in the last two decades by the use of music that's older than the average viewer.

Though the edgy 2000's music can be extremely good like a lot of AMVs prove

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

You can't have Black Cat as a romantic interest for Peter in the MCU because Tom Holland is tiny and looks like a weirdly aged 14 year old. Black Cat has to be a tall and highly athletic woman. And frankly, an adult. The pairing would just feel icky.

Felicia is a similar age to Peter in mainstream canon (only Ultimate made her considerably older and they also made her a short-haired brunette who wore a white wig for some reason - as though the Catwoman comparisons weren't already blatant enough). And Peter was always supposed to be a manlet, he's canonically like 5'10 or something while Felicia is ironically supposed to be 6'1 yet artists always draw her as shorter or the same height as him.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

and I don't like how Gamora was written in it at all.

IIRC it was a Harrison Ford in ROTJ type situation, they didn't know if they'd be able to get Zoe back or for how long so they dropped any development with her much after like 2.

I think with Gunn it was more of a public outcry and notoriety case,

Gunn's just lucky his canceling was done by "the wrong people" pretty much everyone he hung out with pre-GOTG got MeToo'd out of existence besides him.

aging them up would mean Peter would have been drafted, not evacuated.

what makes you think they aren't changing the setting or a lot of other shit? how about Peter doesn't get drafted because he broke his leg or some silly shit like that? Or maybe he's gay?

They're letting a liberal feminst jew make the Narnia stuff, i doubt she'll be the first of her kind to buck the trend of doing a 180 on the source material

How are they going to use characters over multiple properties when they can't reference what happened to them earlier, which would be "homework"?

easy, the same way Star Wars used to handle it, those lower tier characters are background filler at best and are separate from the movies.

Reminds me of how absolutely assblasted faggots would get when I'd say that Agents of Shield wasn't canon because it never got brough up back in the day.

Yep, this is exactly what they're planning on doing to the tv shows, pretty much a status quo reset in a way.

And now Agents of Shield is the paragon for MCU TV shows.

by paragon you mean like how its used in mass effect?

I am so fucking sick of Space Oddity in trailers it's unreal

it was this and buzz lightyear, what other films have played that tune? Also why did we go from the 2000s/obama era 2010s "take indie songs and place them in our marketing to boost both the band that the parent company owns and our own media by making them iconic with one another" to this "slowed down version of an old classic song" bullshit? I'm sure GOTG or The Social Network will be blamed but it has to be more than that, i miss when you'd hear a new song and it became part of a franchise and forever associated the two. Deadpool was the last film i remember with something like that, taking a 30+ year old song that was barely a top 10 hit from a one hit wonder and its now forever associated with that character

 

[SmugAutist]

While I like her design she's pretty forgettable character that's too close to Batman's version.

Unpopular opinion, but I like Felicia as a character more than Selina. She is usually written more intricately and has actual motivations that are not just an insatiable kleptomania. Having her be the doomed romance for the main character rather than the one always being pursued is also more interesting.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

what makes you think they aren't changing the setting or a lot of other shit? how about Peter doesn't get drafted because he broke his leg or some silly shit like that? Or maybe he's gay?

They're letting a liberal feminst jew make the Narnia stuff, i doubt she'll be the first of her kind to buck the trend of doing a 180 on the source material

Because the easier explanation is that they're stupid and won't even think about it. The most likely scenario is they do it and when people point out that male teens of that age would have been in the army during that time period there'll be a blank look followed by, "why?"

 

[Betonhaus]

Oh jeeze the Venom horse cock porn had dropped on rule34.xxx

A change from the copious amount of venom horsecock porn that was already there.

 

[SmugAutist]

Felicia is a similar age to Peter in mainstream canon (only Ultimate made her considerably older and they also made her a short-haired brunette who wore a white wig for some reason - as though the Catwoman comparisons weren't already blatant enough). And Peter was always supposed to be a manlet, he's canonically like 5'10 or something while Felicia is ironically supposed to be 6'1 yet artists always draw her as shorter or the same height as him.

There is a notiecable difference between a slightly shorter, but still mature looking man with a similarly aged woman, and a Tomo Holland, who is only two years younger than but still looks like a high school freshman. It gives off hot for teacher vibes rather than a romance.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

I suspect people who give a shit about Narnia are not big Disney MCU fans.

Then again given some of the articles I saw around the upcoming Netflix Narnia stuff no-one talking about it is either. The article was talking about aging up the teens to appeal to the modern audience, seemingly unaware that aging them up would mean Peter would have been drafted, not evacuated.

Not necessarily. Have him work in a factory or some other essential industry, then everything get relocated north to the old Kirke estate after Stukas level the original plant. This isn't a particularly hard rewrite if you're willing to think it through, but I doubt that anyone in Hollywood is willing to do that.

 

[Overly Serious]

Felicia is a similar age to Peter in mainstream canon (only Ultimate made her considerably older and they also made her a short-haired brunette who wore a white wig for some reason - as though the Catwoman comparisons weren't already blatant enough). And Peter was always supposed to be a manlet, he's canonically like 5'10 or something while Felicia is ironically supposed to be 6'1 yet artists always draw her as shorter or the same height as him.

Well looks like everybody here knows more about the character than I do, which isn't surprising!

Still, this is what most people think of when they think of Black Cat, right?


Setting aside comics canon, there's no way you could pair anyone looking remotely like that with Tom Holland spidey. Granted, I'm opening myself up to a bunch of people posting pics of comics MJ in response but that's my point - you have to radically reinvent the character.

I could see the Andrew Garfield Spiderman being paired up with a woman like that. You could probably get away with Macguide Spiderman being paired with her as at least that dude has the charm and manner to pull it off. Holland Spiderman? No way. Their only option is to do a complete move away from the comics version. With Silk, the other proposed love interest in the post I responded to, you don't. She's a petite and young-ish spider woman. Comics Blackcat may be canonically the same age as Peter (I hadn't known) but Tom Holland will always look like a kid, even when he looks like a 40 year old kid.

EDIT: @SmugAutist gets it.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

IIRC it was a Harrison Ford in ROTJ type situation, they didn't know if they'd be able to get Zoe back or for how long so they dropped any development with her much after like 2.

Infinity War should have been Gamora's last appearance in the MCU then. Gamora's death was sad as hell in Infinity War (and had a lot of really dark subtext to it), and it left a lasting impression on the audience. Imagine if Gamora's last scene in the MCU altogether was the "what did it cost?" moment. Leaves an impact. But nooo, the MCU had to lessen that powerful moment by bringing another Gamora back ... Meh!

Guardians 3 loses nothing as a movie without her, too.

At least in Return of the Jedi, the rescue mission for Han Solo was fun. All of the stuff in Jabba's palace is kino. I can't imagine the movie without that entire first act. In Guardians 3, we have Gamora being ... Unlikable and irrelevant? I would have much preferred that Sly Stallone's character got an entire sideplot if they had to include the Ravagers ... Didn't need Gamora to bridge the two groups together whatsoever.

 

[starborn427614]

Guardians 3 loses nothing as a movie without her, too.

I really liked GOTG3, but this is true. At the very least she should be done in the MCU now.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

It's sad because Gamora was cool but just pointless in 3. You can tell how that phonecall with Zoe went "OK, but you'll better fucking pay me." She said in interviews prior she was done with Marvel and at this point a contract with them is a curse. That Venom trailer was just mid af and please just let Bowie rest in peace.

Is it me or is there no real hype with Deadpool 3, I was at first buzzed about it and even have a free ticket but I am viewing it more as a chore than anything.

 

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

I didn't mind Topher Grace's performance in Spiderman 3, but he definitely didn't have the build for it. I always argued he would've been a better Carnage than Venom with his size, and his performance in Predators cemented my stance on that.

My only peeve with Raimi-Venom is that he doesn't say 'We.' You know? He says "'I' wanna kill the Spider."

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Not necessarily. Have him work in a factory or some other essential industry, then everything get relocated north to the old Kirke estate after Stukas level the original plant. This isn't a particularly hard rewrite if you're willing to think it through, but I doubt that anyone in Hollywood is willing to do that.

It's doable, as you say just requires some thinking.
Of course that would make one of the heroes a confirmed blue collar worker at which point the average American film writer might start having a fainting spell.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

It's not technically part of the MCU, but I figured it might as well be posted here.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=__2bjWbetsA Looks about on par with the last two films.

This looks god awful.

This is peak "Rawr! XD " Milennial humor. Pass.

 

[Calandrino]

If Professor X can move things with His mind, why doesn't He make his legs move?

Sadly we will probably never see a proper depiction of the way his powers would realistically work, as explained here

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

There is a notiecable difference between a slightly shorter, but still mature looking man with a similarly aged woman, and a Tomo Holland, who is only two years younger than but still looks like a high school freshman. It gives off hot for teacher vibes rather than a romance.

I dunno why you guys keep ragging on Holland supposedly looking like a schoolboy. He doesn't. He looks like a normal 20-something guy, it wouldn't exactly be hard to find an actress who looks similarly young and is also hot (assuming Hollywood isn't deliberately uglifying Felicia as per their standard MO).

You are correct. Ditko's Spidey was an angry nerd who could be extremely callous at times. That said, Tobey played him the closest, having actual flaws and making mistakes. As opposed to the goody two shoes from the MCU Spidey or the jock from the Amazing duology.

Ditko's Spider-Man was probably the closest to being an accurate portrayal of what a nerdy outcast given superpowers would be like. You can tell Ditko's Peter absolutely relishes having all of these abilities and is constantly walking the fine line between outright abusing them and actually being responsible with them which I personally find to be far more entertaining and interesting than the "nice guy" Peter that the character later became. Early Spider-Man was also considerably more of a loner.

 

[Overly Serious]

Sadly we will probably never see a proper depiction of the way his powers would realistically work, as explained here

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Fg_cwI1Xj4M

"But I've seen everything!"

That show was depressing as Hell for its main storyline but the cameos were something else. Sir Ian McKellan's was probably my favourite but Patrick Stewart was a close second. I have to give most respect to Orlando Bloom for absolutely mercilessly lampooning himself with all his performative complaining about the burden of being so good looking. He showed himself no mercy whatsoever!

I dunno why you guys keep ragging on Holland supposedly looking like a schoolboy. He doesn't. He looks like a normal 20-something guy, it wouldn't exactly be hard to find an actress who looks similarly young and is also hot (assuming Hollywood isn't deliberately uglifying Felicia as per their standard MO).

Matter of opinion I guess. Maybe it's that he's 5'8" and super skinny but he looks like someone I'd have to rescue from Jimmy Saville.



Anyway, I'm not and never have said they couldn't find an actress to pair him with. I said I can't reconcile him with someone who looks like the comics Felicia. Whereas you could pair him with someone who looks like comics Silk. That's all I ever said. We seem to be going all over the place with this.

Ditko's Spider-Man was probably the closest to being an accurate portrayal of what a nerdy outcast given superpowers would be like. You can tell Ditko's Peter absolutely relishes having all of these abilities and is constantly walking the fine line between outright abusing them and actually being responsible with them which I personally find to be far more entertaining and interesting than the "nice guy" Peter that the character later became. Early Spider-Man was also considerably more of a loner.

Spiderman didn't really learn the Great Power... thing until after his Uncle Ben died. And that's one thing that the MCU did - they introduced him after that had happened. The Peter we meet in Infinity War is a Peter who is relatively recently bereaved.