Marvel Cinematic Universe

[jspit2.0]

Ultimately, I think it goes to the old adage, "you need to know the rules in order to break them."

Jessica Gao isn't smart enough or experienced enough to run a show like She-Hulk. She just doesn't grasp the fundamental rules of writing plot, character and jokes. The whole thing feels sloppy (like most Disney+ shows, but I digress), so when she finally gets around to her fourth wall breaking episode, it doesn't feel earned or satisfying in any way.

If the show was really leading up to that, ideally they would have introduced the writers in an earlier episode. Maybe make the whole IP plot about the writers adapting Jennifer's story for a television show. The writers air a show dramatizing a court case She-Hulk's currently arguing. She-Hulk confronts them and does her dumb She-Hulk thing. She storms out. In subsequent episodes, everything starts going to shit in her life, culminating in a no-win situation in the finale. She-Hulk suddenly thinks to herself, "wait a minute..." and goes and confronts the writers. It turns out everything after when She-Hulk confronted the writers was their dramatization and in reality She-Hulk's life has been going pretty well for the past four episodes. Reset the back half of the season, new norm for season 2.

Its not great, but, you know, it actually lays the groundwork for breaking the fourth wall in the finale so it doesn't feel like a lazy asspull.


And for those who say you can't break the fourth wall on television, I just want to remind you that House of Cards did it brilliantly in its first two seasons:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fGZiytab10w

HoC is only one recent example. Then there is non-linear story telling, expressionism. I'm fine with doing something creative.

I'm not fine with garbage. This thing is on par with the shit DC pumped out like BoP or whatever but you won't hear a tenth of the criticism. It's literal, narrative garbage. It doesn't have a story, a plot. It's aimless scenes strung together and the scenes themselves are poorly structured.

This is one of the worst, most technically flawed superhero whatevers in the last decade and nothing outside of boring YT culture warz bullshit will tongue lash them for.

You know it's bad when people would rather watch Steel or Batman & Robin. They're shitty films, but at least you can laugh at them. She-Hulk and Thor 4 are chores to watch clips of, let alone the whole thing.

Hemsworth and Portman delivered, and nothing else. Thor 4 is only watchable in those scenes and just barely.

She-hulk, at points veers into so bad its good. It's hard not to watch something like the twerking thing or horrible CGIhulk and not laugh, albeit for the wrong reasons.

If anything, I feel bad for Jamil and Tim Roth. Did they not chew up scenery? Titania was so offensively off brand it was glorious. But I can't complain about the actress like I could certain others....(Maslany, Gonzaga, Rufallo).

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

I say this before and I say it again, I like superheroes and all but a big problem with capeshit is that it wants to be taken as seriously as prestige tv yet does none of the effort. She-Hulk did no research for a show about a lawyer, yet wants to be considered as clever and must watch and important as Better Call Saul which hired actual advisors for its legal storylines. All capeshit has that problem, Watchmen (the tv series) and Falcon and the Winter Soldier want to be like To Kill a Mockingbird or that Invisible Man book but with superheroes, or whatever big american books about race you can think of idk, but the writers have no experience like Harper Lee does with racism other than watching protest footage on twitter. The fact that the writers take themselves seriously is annoying enough but the fact consumers take it seriously enough to either take offense at how they weren't woke enough or worship them for slaying chuds is really the most dire part. People are dumber than they should be

 

[ZehnBoat]

I say this before and I say it again, I like superheroes and all but a big problem with capeshit is that it wants to be taken as seriously as prestige tv yet does none of the effort.

woke people and their media love to do this "I'm smart and take me seriously, unless you're actually smarter than me, then calm down i'm just a silly clown" shit
disney star wars is the second coming of christ, unless you don't like it, in which case it's silly space wizard movie
greta jailbait is a serious person who needs to be taken seriously, unless you don't like her, in which case she's just a kid

 

[Calandrino]

Spoken like a true edgelord pedo: "How dare you enjoy something fun with explicit morality?! Real adult comics should be about grown up subjects like rape, demon worship and how right wingers are bad!".
If the guy wanted to have a point he would address the underlying cause and perpetrators in the (then encroaching) consoomer life style rather than just stick to its victims.

So, how does this bode for us?

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

Imagine how great an tv adaption of the shitty parts of LGX would be. Like unironic schizo rants about mary poppins being better than harry potter and the attempt to wokewash the gollywog. i'd watch every season on the premiere

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

They fucking did it. They race swapped Wonder Man. Fuckers.

Abdul-Mateen II Is Marvel's "Wonder Man" - Dark Horizons

“Watchmen” and “Aquaman” star Yahya Abdul-Mateen II is in talks to star in the latest Disney+ Marvel Studios series “Wonder Man”. Andrew Guest (“Brooklyn Nine-Nine,” “Community”) is head writer of the series whilst “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings” filmmaker Destin Daniel Cretton...

www.darkhorizons.com

 

[The Nothingness]

The shilling for BP2 is more unbearable than its predecessor. It makes the publicity The Dark Knight got after Heath Ledger's death look miniscule. Good luck finding professional reviews with legitimate criticisms.

 

[Articles and Nudes]

The shilling for BP2 is more unbearable than its predecessor. It makes the publicity The Dark Knight got after Heath Ledger's death look miniscule. Good luck finding professional reviews with legitimate criticisms.

The worst thing is how they're milking the shit out of his death in marketing materials and the film itself; being an actual plot point, the family whimpering about how they lost everything, etc. I can't even begin to recall anything like this being done with Heath.

Anything to distract from the lack of Africans in their film about Africans, I suppose.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

They fucking did it. They race swapped Wonder Man. Fuckers.

Abdul-Mateen II Is Marvel's "Wonder Man" - Dark Horizons

“Watchmen” and “Aquaman” star Yahya Abdul-Mateen II is in talks to star in the latest Disney+ Marvel Studios series “Wonder Man”. Andrew Guest (“Brooklyn Nine-Nine,” “Community”) is head writer of the series whilst “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings” filmmaker Destin Daniel Cretton...

www.darkhorizons.com

I vaguely recall that Wonder Man existed?

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

The worst thing is how they're milking the shit out of his death in marketing materials and the film itself; being an actual plot point, the family whimpering about how they lost everything, etc. I can't even begin to recall anything like this being done with Heath.

Anything to distract from the lack of Africans in their film about Africans, I suppose.

They created an entire industry of raping Chadwick Boseman's corpse but no one else seems to feel disgusted by it.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

They created an entire industry of raping Chadwick Boseman's corpse but no one else seems to feel disgusted by it.

Seeing as how the corpse has fully decomposed at this point, I'm just going to say it; Chadwick Boseman was just an actor. He was a hard-working man, but to say he is as mythological as Marlon Brando or Orson Welles or Humphrey Bogart is overselling what his legacy actually was.

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

Spoken like a true edgelord pedo: "How dare you enjoy something fun with explicit morality?! Real adult comics should be about grown up subjects like rape, demon worship and how right wingers are bad!".
If the guy wanted to have a point he would address the underlying cause and perpetrators in the (then encroaching) consoomer life style rather than just stick to its victims.

>Write Rorschach as a dig at Kirby
>Make him unhinged, violent, imply he has mommy issues
>When the villain reveals his "le ebin x minutes ago DD", everyone decides to go along with a shit plan that will never work in the long term.
>Except Rorschach. He's not willing to sell out. He knows shit will hit the fan and Ozymandias has been hiding in the arctic huffing his own farts and fucking his cat for too long to notice.
>People like Rorschach because despite being messed up, he's the only main character that acts like an actual hero.
>Alan Moore goes into a decades long shitfit because people "don't get it."

I always get a chuckle that this turbofaggot never noticed how badly he owned himself in the single-minded desire to shit on a guy infinitely better than him.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

>Write Rorschach as a dig at Kirby
>Make him unhinged, violent, imply he has mommy issues
>When the villain reveals his "le ebin x minutes ago DD", everyone decides to go along with a shit plan that will never work in the long term.
>Except Rorschach. He's not willing to sell out. He knows shit will hit the fan and Ozymandias has been hiding in the arctic huffing his own farts and fucking his cat for too long to notice.
>People like Rorschach because despite being messed up, he's the only main character that acts like an actual hero.
>Alan Moore goes into a decades long shitfit because people "don't get it."

I always get a chuckle that this turbofaggot never noticed how badly he owned himself in the single-minded desire to shit on a guy infinitely better than him.

It's really weird that Moore was good enough writer to follow up with the characterisation of Rorschach, but terrible enough as a human being to miss why people will naturally gravitate towards people who will sacrifice their lives for the concept of justice, rather than bugman esque decimation for the greater good.

 

[God of Nothing]

It's really weird that Moore was good enough writer to follow up with the characterisation of Rorschach, but terrible enough as a human being to miss why people will naturally gravitate towards people who will sacrifice their lives for the concept of justice, rather than bugman esque decimation for the greater good.

Extremism requires sense to at least have an upside. The opposite of Rorschach was worse than Rorschach.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

Up yours, Fantastic Four! We'll see who cancels who. *Galactus twerks and blows up the moon*

With his mighty brap from all planets he ate

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Extremism requires sense to at least have an upside. The opposite of Rorschach was worse than Rorschach.

I think the Comedian is more of an opposite to Rorschach - an eternal shitlord with no morals that gets broken by his actions in the end. Or even Owlman - a massive cuck that will throw away his morals for his safety when it most matters.

Veidt is basically the epitome of "We must allow the government to infringe (y)our rights for OUR democracy" - he tries to show himself as a humanitarian but it's clear he thinks humans are too dumb to make the correct choices.

 

[ShitLurker]

I think the Comedian is more of an opposite to Rorschach - an eternal shitlord with no morals that gets broken by his actions in the end. Or even Owlman - a massive cuck that will throw away his morals for his safety when it most matters.

Veidt is basically the epitome of "We must allow the government to infringe (y)our rights for OUR democracy" - he tries to show himself as a humanitarian but it's clear he thinks humans are too dumb to make the correct choices.

When I was a naive faggot I adored Moore. Now a days I'm absolutely amazed that he managed to create some of the most iconic comic characters which he intended to be seen as monsters. Was he just really good at being consistent with a character's flow even when it collided with his retarded takes or how?

Amd speaking of Moore, I liked some stuff from his ABC line, Top Ten the original run to be exact, do really wonder if that ahed well...

 

[Uranus Pink]

For Watchman and Rorschach, at the time Moore as a writer understood to keep his head out of his ass and let the story write itself. And then let the reader(s) decide who was the hero or the villain.

Of course afterwards over the years Moore became the literal real life embodiment of "either you die a hero or live long enough to become the villain."

On the farms new color scheme.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

>Write Rorschach as a dig at Kirby
>Make him unhinged, violent, imply he has mommy issues
>When the villain reveals his "le ebin x minutes ago DD", everyone decides to go along with a shit plan that will never work in the long term.
>Except Rorschach. He's not willing to sell out. He knows shit will hit the fan and Ozymandias has been hiding in the arctic huffing his own farts and fucking his cat for too long to notice.
>People like Rorschach because despite being messed up, he's the only main character that acts like an actual hero.
>Alan Moore goes into a decades long shitfit because people "don't get it."

I always get a chuckle that this turbofaggot never noticed how badly he owned himself in the single-minded desire to shit on a guy infinitely better than him.

I always believed it, & I still will believe in the fact that Rorschach is the most based fictional schizo of all time.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

>Write Rorschach as a dig at Kirby

Interesting, where did you hear about that?
I always thought Rorschach was more of a dig at Ditko considering his lineage to The Question, Mr.A and moral objectivism.
Speaking of Mr.A, Alan Moore (and The Emperors of Ice Cream) made a song about him.