Life after prison - What happens if Chris is One Day released from prison

[Pointless Sperg]

I'm sure Chris would be willing to give work a try again. He really did apply for jobs in the past, but was always rejected because he's an obvious freak and even a cursory google search reveals that to the manager.

Chris might really suck at any job he's hired at, because he's lazy, but I could at least see him giving it a try.

Chris is lazy but he's not so lazy that he couldn't at least try to be a shitty employee. He'd fuck it up of course, but I can see him at least trying. Lots of businesses are complaining that they can't find employees -- maybe they should approach Chris and offer him a job.

People act like Chris has never even tried to get a job. He has, on multiple occasions. I also understand why he quit trying. Jobhunting is a pain in the ass even when you don't have a google search history showing what a degenerate you are.

If Chris were set up with a job, where he was supervised and had clear responsibilities, I bet he would show up and do it. He'd just be insufferable to be around.

Remember he was fired at Wendy's for doing and saying stupid shit, not for being lazy.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

I'm sure Chris would be willing to give work a try again. He really did apply for jobs in the past, but was always rejected because he's an obvious freak and even a cursory google search reveals that to the manager.

Chris might really suck at any job he's hired at, because he's lazy, but I could at least see him giving it a try.

Chris is lazy but he's not so lazy that he couldn't at least try to be a shitty employee. He'd fuck it up of course, but I can see him at least trying. Lots of businesses are complaining that they can't find employees -- maybe they should approach Chris and offer him a job.

People act like Chris has never even tried to get a job. He has, on multiple occasions. I also understand why he quit trying. Jobhunting is a pain in the ass even when you don't have a google search history showing what a degenerate you are.

If Chris were set up with a job, where he was supervised and had clear responsibilities, I bet he would show up and do it. He'd just be insufferable to be around.

Remember he was fired at Wendy's for doing and saying stupid shit, not for being lazy.

You're new here so I won't go hard on you about the many threads previous to the current happenings that describe Chris and work.

Chris applied to jobs primarily because his "theoretical girlfriend" at the time demanded it. At no time has he ever applied for a job because he had to. It's sort of like the push to get Chris to exercise. Sure, he'll waddle through his neighborhood a few times, do Sonic speed runs every once in awhile, even brag about "fast walking" but at the end of the day, he just grows tires of exertions and turns to his tried and true lies.

Because of Chris's ego, his "dream job" and job that he described was basically an "office job", because Chris thinks they sit at a computer all day while an assistant does the actual work. His bloated ego makes tard jobs way beneath him, because why should he stoop that low? He gets free money from the government and despite some hiccups, generally knows he has that coming and it's enough to keep his then life stable. Chris knows full well if he has to make it on his own, he can't do it.

Plus, he's almost forty years old, Chris isn't 25 anymore. He's had all this time to convince himself that no, he will never work a job because he doesn't want to work a job. He has no ability to read a job description, then tailor his experience to what the job offers.

No, Chris has never applied for a real job that didn't involve something having to do with toys and his interests. If you showed him a $15 an hour job sorting glass or something at a place specifically for tards, he would automatically refuse, because he's not a tard, he's a god, or whatever.

And I have a bad feeling this round of him and the courts will just be another hand holding exercise. He gets all his meals cooked for him, has his own suite in the jail, and really hasn't been lacking for anything except video games, and now, the court will find him a place to live and do all the "hard work" while he sits in his cell and babbles on. Within two weeks of him getting out, even if they find him work and a place to live, he'll just go right back to square one. This is why it's so crucial he get nailed hard on this current legal adventure, because at no time in his life has Chris ever not had a home to go, not had someone holding his hand and doing all the work for him.

 

[Ophelia]

Chris calls the phrase “get a job” an example of “hate speech.” The cwcki article on Chris and employment is a good read.

 

[AnOminous]

Remember he was fired at Wendy's for doing and saying stupid shit, not for being lazy.

That's more or less what I said, whether or not he was directly fired for his apparently terrifying Donald Duck impression.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

You're new here so I won't go hard on you about the many threads previous to the current happenings that describe Chris and work.

Chris applied to jobs primarily because his "theoretical girlfriend" at the time demanded it. At no time has he ever applied for a job because he had to. It's sort of like the push to get Chris to exercise. Sure, he'll waddle through his neighborhood a few times, do Sonic speed runs every once in awhile, even brag about "fast walking" but at the end of the day, he just grows tires of exertions and turns to his tried and true lies.

Because of Chris's ego, his "dream job" and job that he described was basically an "office job", because Chris thinks they sit at a computer all day while an assistant does the actual work. His bloated ego makes tard jobs way beneath him, because why should he stoop that low? He gets free money from the government and despite some hiccups, generally knows he has that coming and it's enough to keep his then life stable. Chris knows full well if he has to make it on his own, he can't do it.

Plus, he's almost forty years old, Chris isn't 25 anymore. He's had all this time to convince himself that no, he will never work a job because he doesn't want to work a job. He has no ability to read a job description, then tailor his experience to what the job offers.

No, Chris has never applied for a real job that didn't involve something having to do with toys and his interests. If you showed him a $15 an hour job sorting glass or something at a place specifically for tards, he would automatically refuse, because he's not a tard, he's a god, or whatever.

And I have a bad feeling this round of him and the courts will just be another hand holding exercise. He gets all his meals cooked for him, has his own suite in the jail, and really hasn't been lacking for anything except video games, and now, the court will find him a place to live and do all the "hard work" while he sits in his cell and babbles on. Within two weeks of him getting out, even if they find him work and a place to live, he'll just go right back to square one. This is why it's so crucial he get nailed hard on this current legal adventure, because at no time in his life has Chris ever not had a home to go, not had someone holding his hand and doing all the work for him.

I'm familiar with all of that, including his absolutely amazing job proposal to Sega.

What I'm saying is that Chris, when having a manager physically present telling him to do stuff, will actually do stuff. You could probably get him to exercise with a personal trainer if it were an attractive woman. Chris is lazy in the sense that he has no internal motivation to do anything except what brings him instant gratification. That doesn't mean he won't do things.

He will actually put in a great amount of effort if he's receiving A) immediate gratification or B) Immediate pressure and direction. Any delay of gratification turns it from tangible to theoretical, so you can't expect him to perform in that circumstance.

Throw Chris in a boot camp where someone beats him with a baton if he doesn't keep pace, and you could probably get him to stop being a fat piece of shit and instead be a thin piece of shit. Get him into a routine where he gets his paycheck immediately at the end of each day (like a Mexican day laborer) and he might actually do something useful. I figure it would take a month of someone directly beating his ass, whereupon the routine would stick and he could probably delay gratification for a few hours to get his lego money at the end of his shift.

We've seen Chris put immense amounts of effort into things before, the problem is that it has to be something he either wants or is forced to do.

 

[Goebbels]

Redditors from Virginia are planning to adopt Chris Chan so that answers the question if they succeed.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/sjz76i/holy_shit_if_you_live_in_virginia_you_might_be/?context=8

 

[A-№1]

He's legally disabled

But only legally. In reality he's quite capable of sorting glass.

I know people far more disabled than Chris yet who have repeatedly been denied SSDI. Meanwhile Chris, who is perfectly capable of earning a living were he not so intentionally useless, gets his monthly tugboat. Whether or not you get SSDI depends less on your actual ability or disability than on how annoying your are at the SSA office and how irresponsible the SSA clerk handling the paperwork is.

he was creeping out customers and making children cry.

He also wasn't doing his job. By the time of the child incident, the Wendy's franchise was looking for any excuse to fire him.

Also being weird and creepy are not disabilities. If he'd done his job cleaning tables and busing garbage, he wouldn't have had time to creep out small children.

If you're on SSI and have been basically for life, this is the kind of job you get.

Only if you're actually willing to do the work. The hiring manager at a tard workshop would see him coming and turn him away at the door for being useless.

At no time has he ever applied for a job because he had to.

This. Chris is a lazy, useless waste because he can be. He gets away with it. That won't last forever.

This is why it's so crucial he get nailed hard on this current legal adventure,

He won't be. But don't worry about it too much. Hard times are coming for Chris. They'll just be imposed by reality, not the courts, and that's for the best. If the courts punish Chris, he'll just blame the courts for being mean to him. When reality punishes him, he'll have no target to blame for his misery.

What I'm saying is that Chris, when having a manager physically present telling him to do stuff, will actually do stuff.

Take away his tugboat and put him on piecework so that it's a choice between working and starving and Chris will work. And if he refuses to work but starves instead? Oh well.

 

[Ophelia]

We've seen Chris put immense amounts of effort into things before, the problem is that it has to be something he either wants or is forced to do.

Can you think of examples of this? The only thing that comes to my mind was that road trip years ago. Generally, his work philosophy seems to be slipshod “hmm. Dat’s good enough.”

Redditors from Virginia are planning to adopt Chris Chan so that answers the question if they succeed.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/sjz76i/holy_shit_if_you_live_in_virginia_you_might_be/?context=8

One commenter got me thinking that maybe a show like Black Mirror could do something (loosely) inspired by Chris.

But fine, fuck around and fine out, Virginia redditors.

When reality punishes him, he'll have no target to blame for his misery.

He’ll find one. Null or Pmurt or Mary Lee Walsh or someone we haven’t met yet. “Hey, maybe this is my fault” just doesn’t stick in his head.

 

[A-№1]

But fine, fuck around and fine out, Virginia redditors.

I could not have said that better.

No "good" deed goes unpunished. People who try to help Chris get what's coming to them.

“Hey, maybe this is my fault” just doesn’t stick in his head.

Yeah, he'll never blame himself. He just won't have an obvious target to blame.

Null or Pmurt or Mary Lee Walsh or someone we haven’t met yet. “

I doubt it will be Null etc. Depending on the circumstances he'll likely focus on someone at whatever tard home he gets kicked out from, or someone else in his short term memory. That or some vague, nebulous target like them trolls.

Null made the mistake of helping Chris once, so it's actually quite possible Chris will come crawling to him for help again once the misery starts to really bite. When Null tells him where to shove it (Here's hoping, for Null's sake), THEN Chris will start blaming Null.

 

[AnOminous]

Also being weird and creepy are not disabilities.

It is if it is the product of a mental condition, like autism, such that it renders you effectively unemployable. He will never not be weird and creepy even with supervision because he neither knows nor can learn what is normal behavior.

He would require more supervision and accommodation than any reasonable employer would provide, so while he might obtain a job, he would not retain it. Nobody is going to pay some wrangler at a normal employer to spend their own full-time job following around one retard and correcting him.

People like Chris are why sheltered workshop settings exist, and unlike other employers, the nature of the setting isn't going to qualify as SGA and get his tugboat canceled only for him immediately to be fired.

 

[Manly_Brony]

That future employer/tard wrangler y'all are talking about would probably need to roleplay as CPU Bob to get the slightest amount of cooperation from Chris at this point. People shouldn't help him anymore, period. He's a colossal weasel and the only thing he gladly does is art. What "career" choices does he have?

1. Professional victim: he is that already.
2. YouTuber: he burned the bridges so he'd end up being trolled again and will also probably become the Val Kilmer of lolcows after a decade, go the way of the lolbuffalo because people will move on and new lolcows will appear. You won't tell your kids, nephews, little cousins about Chris.
3. Artist: answered above.
4. Troon prostitute: sick fucks will smash that for bragging rights alone but he'd end up on some internet savvy serial killer's hit list.
5. Forager/squatter.

The only way for Chris to get his life somewhat together is to repent, detransition, join some weird Christian cult and draw angel-chus, saint-chus and Jesus-chu.

 

[Hepativore]

I imagine that if he does go to a home of some sort, he will probably constantly medicated to be easier to manage.

Legally speaking, for somebody like Chris, what sorts of medication can institions give to him and would he be legally allowed to refuse them? The antipsychotics that they give to some people with severe autism in various places often render them into a near zombie-like state.

 

[Exceptional Chimp]

I imagine that if he does go to a home of some sort, he will probably constantly medicated to be easier to manage.

Legally speaking, for somebody like Chris, what sorts of medication can institions give to him and would he be legally allowed to refuse them? The antipsychotics that they give to some people with severe autism in various places often render them into a near zombie-like state.

Midazolam, pancuronium bromide, and potassium chloride will fix him permanently. Everything else is temporary.

 

[Skitterways]

I imagine that if he does go to a home of some sort, he will probably constantly medicated to be easier to manage.

Legally speaking, for somebody like Chris, what sorts of medication can institutions give to him and would he be legally allowed to refuse them? The antipsychotics that they give to some people with severe autism in various places often render them into a near zombie-like state.

Generally as an adult you are considered competent and it is your right to refuse medication.
Except when:
1. You're incapacitated and it's an emergency situation.
2. You're in a psych facility or some other treatment facility and your doctor decides you lack capacity, and a 2nd doctor agrees, then they may seek an involuntary medication order from a judge. When I used to work psych, several times a week a judge would come and meet with the doctors and decide which patients' temporary detention orders needed extended, who was ready to be released to law enforcement, and if forcing medication was justified.
3. The courts appoint a guardian to make decisions for you. You can still try to refuse medication, but the guardian can override you. Usually at that point it becomes a negotiating game between the guardian, doctor, and the patient.

The kind of drugs depend on what is the doctor's diagnosis.

Edited to add: The past medical history of the patient is also important. Like if Chris turns out to be a Type 2 diabetic he most likely wouldn't be prescribed Zyprexa or Clozaril because those anti-psychotics could make his diabetes harder to manage.

 

[cwcvillemayoress]

Chris after prison will be a sad saga to witness. He won't be allowed to go back to Branchland Court and if he does go back he'll be surprised by new inhabitants in the house if it's sold. His family has cut him off from all contact with Barb and the rest of the family so he won't have a family to depend on unless they feel bad for him because he's Barb's child.

But Chris might be ok if some woman who is desperate for love writes him a letter, visits him in jail, and marries him while he's behind bars. Stranger things have happened to people in jail. The only thing that might really change about Chris is losing weight and going back to pre-PVCC appearance. if the weens, OnionFarmers, and Kengle stop sending him money to get junk food.

I think that one guy (Nick Bate) lost a tremendous amount of weight in jail and was cleaned up. So Chris might have the same thing happen to him.

 

[A-№1]

It is if it is the product of a mental condition, like autism,

Autism has always been more of Chris' go-to excuse than his condition.

There are far more autistic people than Chris who manage to hold down jobs. Real world jobs. Some are really, really good at them.

People like Chris are why sheltered workshop settings exist,

Except Chris wouldn't work in one of them either. He firmly believes he shouldn't have to work; because muh autisms.

That future employer/tard wrangler y'all are talking about would probably need to roleplay as CPU Bob to get the slightest amount of cooperation from Chris at this point.

Put him on piecework where he gets paid for what he actually does instead of an hourly wage to shit himself and do nothing. If he doesn't work, he doesn't eat. Given the choice between working and starving, Chris will work.

What "career" choices does he have?

Saggar maker's bottom knocker. Or any other low skill repetitive position.

would he be legally allowed to refuse them?

It depends on the state. Some states have an absolute right to refuse, while others require a court order to force medication. I don't know how it is in Virginia, but I suspect he would be legally allowed to refuse them. Even if Virginia allows forced medication, I don't see a court giving enough fucks about Chris to order it.

Refusing meds is a common reason why schizos etc. end up out of their placements and back on the streets or in jail. Chris will manage it by being Chris.

Chris after prison will be a sad saga to witness.

Chris has been a sad saga to witness for years.

 

[AnOminous]

Autism has always been more of Chris' go-to excuse than his condition.

There are far more autistic people than Chris who manage to hold down jobs. Real world jobs. Some are really, really good at them.

Most of whom are in the actual high functioning category that Chris isn't in, who would have just been considered spergs previously. With few exceptions, like Temple Grandin, most people with full-blown autism are not employable without more than reasonable accommodations.

 

[deodorant]

My general prediction is that Chris will not survive prison.

It would be funny if he joined a gang though.

 

[Skitterways]

It depends on the state. Some states have an absolute right to refuse, while others require a court order to force medication. I don't know how it is in Virginia, but I suspect he would be legally allowed to refuse them. Even if Virginia allows forced medication, I don't see a court giving enough fucks about Chris to order it.
Refusing meds is a common reason why schizos etc. end up out of their placements and back on the streets or in jail. Chris will manage it by being Chris.

Virginia does allow forced medication but only under certain situations. See my previous post. You're right though, in a group home setting forcing medication wouldn't occur and most likely Chris will manage to get himself either kicked out or he'll leave voluntarily and find himself in a world of hurt.

 

[AnOminous]

Virginia does allow forced medication but only under certain situations. See my previous post. You're right though, in a group home setting forcing medication wouldn't occur and most likely Chris will manage to get himself either kicked out or he'll leave voluntarily and find himself in a world of hurt.

He'll only be forced to take medication (although it is fairly likely he is already taking it voluntarily if they made a care plan for him) for basically the same reasons he would in the outside world, or in this case, if he tries to delay the case even more by claiming to be incompetent to stand trial because of all his dumb Jesus bullshit.

In that case, they'll drug him until at least he isn't drooling and spazzing out in court and move on.