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General Zoider said:
for me ill also admit i think im more interested in the attire then the female wearing it, if i guy was also in goth and it looked good I would probably be all over them as well. Howver both genders are pretty much saddled with the identiy or they/them shit red flags.
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General Patton said:
I definitely get it, because I used to wear that stuff. Out of all the dumb stuff I wore, the alternative/goth stuff wasn't one of them. I still get the appeal of it.
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Wrt to recent trends towards people prefering it today, I suspect the reason so many people claim to really want a goth girl is because it's an interesting and distinct style. So many people dress like absolute slobs and/or boring at that, so someone taking a modicum of thought on how they look is very appealing, even if most alt girls are complete poseurs these days.
 
Cooked Rabbit said:
For the gays here: do you ever feel lucky to be gay? This may be stupid but it seems to me like relationships between people of the same sex would be simpler than between those of different sexes.
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I wouldn’t say I’m particularly lucky or unlucky. There’s good and bad about it. I’m lucky in that for all the bitching I do about living in Portland (and it is a shithole) it is an extremely gay friendly city and I’ve never had to deal with too much bullshit for being gay here. Unlucky because although it is a gay friendly place to live, that means it also attracts the more deviant and obnoxious fags who give the rest of us a bad name. Hard to find a relationship with someone who isn’t batshit insane or a whore.
 
Jason Wynn said:
I wouldn’t say I’m particularly lucky or unlucky. There’s good and bad about it. I’m lucky in that for all the bitching I do about living in Portland (and it is a shithole) it is an extremely gay friendly city and I’ve never had to deal with too much bullshit for being gay here. Unlucky because although it is a gay friendly place to live, that means it also attracts the more deviant and obnoxious fags who give the rest of us a bad name. Hard to find a relationship with someone who isn’t batshit insane or a whore.
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Why in the FUCK would you live in Portland? Jesus fuck man, I live in a 95% red county where the nearest town is 500 people, and I've got 'Cowboy Butts Drive Me Nuts' proudly displayed on my F150. I've never once had any problems with anyone over being a homo. Nobody cares if you're not a gigantic fag about it.

Why in the FUCK would you live in PORTLAND??? I'd rather get slurred at every day than be surrounded by junkies and niggers. Seems like the world's worst trade off. Makes me feel queasy just thinking about it.
 
synthetic_glazer said:
I'd have accepted interacting with women on their terms as a necessary facet of life
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On their terms?

I personally don't adapt my way of talking or behaving if I'm in front of males vs females. You've mentioned the "social expectations for how to talk to women", I don't give a damn about that, the major aspect that determines how I talk to someone is familiarity (i.e: if you're someone I know or not, and if you're intentionally abrasive or not).
 
I like interacting with women and I think women are cool and nice and I think all the hate women get online comes from either brown people or incels that have vested interests in hating women
 
A particular gender is not a monolith of people, there are women who are pleasant to talk with, and there are other who are not, just like men. There is enough variety in personalities to make every single person very unique.

It's obvious, the absolutes posted on the Internet, one way or another, always sound extremely dumb to me.
 
We Are The Witches said:
On their terms?

I personally don't adapt my way of talking or behaving if I'm in front of males vs females. You've mentioned the "social expectations for how to talk to women", I don't give a damn about that, the major aspect that determines how I talk to someone is familiarity (i.e: if you're someone I know or not, and if you're intentionally abrasive or not).
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I would argue a lot of women do not want to be talked to like how someone would talk to men, and vice versa. They tend to have different communication styles, different interests, different senses of humor, etc. I think this is especially clear when you read writing by men and woman. While no two writers share a voice and there are always exceptions, the majority of the time, there are pretty clear differences between stories written by men and stories written by women. Much like how you'd communicate with someone from a different generation. That side of things isn't about social expectations as much as it's about speaking and communicating in a way that will resonate with the person you're talking to. There was a really beautiful poem about this called Trying to Talk to a Man by Adrienne Rich. I don't even like poetry but I adore this poem, it always gets me emotional.

The social expectations and 'rules' for talking to women is something I'd consider separate and is moreso coming from a point of "I don't want to do something innocuous and get accused of sexual harassment." Maybe I'm being unfair here, but socially awkward men imo are at a disadvantage when talking to women since we inherently are more likely to come across as creepy and off-putting, so even something innocent like asking to go out for lunch or asking for someone's number will look more skeevy by default, so I feel like you'd have to play along with that and exclusively follow her leads without taking much initiative for yourself simply because the alternative is being called a sex pest. Compound that with autism and it's inherent obstacles in recognizing social cues, and it's a recipe for disaster. I'm no atheist, but seeing how that community was fractured because a man decided to ask a woman out on a date is fucking grim, man.
 
synthetic_glazer said:
I would argue a lot of women do not want to be talked to like how someone would talk to men, and vice versa. They tend to have different communication styles, different interests, different senses of humor, etc. I think this is especially clear when you read writing by men and woman. While no two writers share a voice and there are always exceptions, the majority of the time, there are pretty clear differences between stories written by men and stories written by women. Much like how you'd communicate with someone from a different generation. That side of things isn't about social expectations as much as it's about speaking and communicating in a way that will resonate with the person you're talking to.
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I personally don't give a fuck about that. :story:

Like I said, familiarity plays a role in how I may behave in front of someone, amongst other aspects, but gender/sex is never one. There would be no difference on how I talk to someone who I don't know, and them being female vs them being male. Or a male/female coworker, classmate, etc.
synthetic_glazer said:
"I don't want to do something innocuous and get accused of sexual harassment." Maybe I'm being unfair here, but socially awkward men imo are at a disadvantage when talking to women since we inherently are more likely to come across as creepy and off-putting, so even something innocent like asking to go out for lunch or asking for someone's number will look more skeevy by default, so I feel like you'd have to play along with that and exclusively follow her leads without taking much initiative for yourself simply because the alternative is being called a sex pest.
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Also don't give a fuck about that. I didn't come to this universe to walk on eggshells and cater to the retardation of toxic women.

If I were to ask someone out, it would be done respectfully regardless of who they are, in a pertinent setting, and if unfortunately they end up insulting me or being nasty, then I'll stop wasting my time with such individual.

Someone claiming "sexual harassment" for a simple polite interaction will end up looking like a retard in most normal scenarios, and I'm not here to fear witch hunts.
 
I'm still old fashioned and tend to police my tone when speaking to women

Except on the farms where i treat everyone as a man
 
Cooked Rabbit said:
For the gays here: do you ever feel lucky to be gay? This may be stupid but it seems to me like relationships between people of the same sex would be simpler than between those of different sexes.
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I do, its been a good life overall although there's been a few rough patches. That said I dont really have anything to compare it with, but going by what my straight friends have told me it aint easy. Same sex relationships can have their own complications but they're mostly affected by the same stuff that affects straight relationships - addiction, sharing of housework and such, trust issues etc
awoo said:
I don't have a WSJ subscription but this article sounded like this thread

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With good reason I reckon. I fuckin hate the "queer" label with a passion, to me it means weird, odd, "off", or just defective. The gas gauge in my old Ford V8 was "queer" it didnt read right, ran outta gas a few times until I figured out it wasnt right. I'm not weird, I'm not defective, I am as ordinary as they come

I found that article really resonated for me, especially this bit;

I was gay, I had faced discrimination, and I had fought for my rights. But now that gay rights had become “LGBTQ” rights, I found myself force-teamed with a lot of people whose values were nothing like mine. I didn’t experience my life as a rebellion against reality. I didn’t want to be an identity insurgent. I wanted to participate in the world as a normal person.
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It also mentions the Queers for Palestine fucktards who I especially despise, they represent everything that is wrong and fucked in the head with the current LGBT bla bla movement

Archive link here - https://archive.md/Cknna#selection-801.54-801.422 Its definitely worth reading and not too long
 
Fishnumm said:
have you homos ever seen the x-rays of other homos sticking like soap bottles or like other stuff up there asses and it getting stuck lol
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Homos usually stick actual dicks up their asses or use proper sex toys made for this

The "doctor-i-fell-naked-on-my-deodorant-please-remove-it" phenomenon is mostly a straight thing with retards that wanna experiment with butt stuff but simply refuse to use sex toys with a flared base so they don't need to make a very embarassing trip to the ER
 
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