KF Guide to Woke Games

[Samuel Fuller]

@regalterry The word is CUSTOMER.

A costumer makes costumes for plays or movies.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

And the simple answer is that they do all of the above because the goal is spreading propaganda, and if that fails, then poisoning the proverbial well, and all so they can make everyone that isn't them as miserable as humanly possible. In fact, they relish in taking people's toys away and destroying them, forever chasing that fleeting moment of hurt and impotent anger this causes.

This is why it annoys the fuck out of me when leftists cynically claim that these companies only push wokeness because it is profitable.

Nay, if they truly just wanted to make money, they would have stopped years ago. Or they never would have done it in the first place.

 

[NarkDigger]

I see this kind of confusion a lot among conservatives (who are not right-wingers, let's be clear about that).

They frame this whole discussion within the confines of expenditures and profits, when it's been made abundantly clear the indivduals/companies themselves, and the powers that grant them patronage, are not in the business of making money.

I'll add to that that many so called "anti-woke" people still seem to unironically say things like "I want my games to be apolitical because it's escapism and entertainment, just make good games please". My brother in Christ, how can you ever stop leftistim in any meaningful way if you don't believe in taking over the culture that influences how normies think? How do you except to achive any victory without creating "right-wing" video games? Even if the game is "old" and/or "good" and it's leftist it still is a problem. People rightfully will get mad over a nigger samurai in Assasin's Creed but they would unironically get even more mad at you for pointing out that actually Assasin's Creed went woke in 2007 when they released a game about the crusades where you play as a good guy sand nigger killing Christians who are actually secret illuminati cult responsible for every bad thing in history ever.
Leftists are kinda right when they say "everything is political" or "all art is political" and I want my "political game" to be as right-wing as it can be.

 

[Coolio55]

I'll add to that that many so called "anti-woke" people still seem to unironically say things like "I want my games to be apolitical because it's escapism and entertainment, just make good games please". My brother in Christ, how can you ever stop leftistim in any meaningful way if you don't believe in taking over the culture that influences how normies think? How do you except to achive any victory without creating "right-wing" video games? Even if the game is "old" and/or "good" and it's leftist it still is a problem. People rightfully will get mad over a nigger samurai in Assasin's Creed but they would unironically get even more mad at you for pointing out that actually Assasin's Creed went woke in 2007 when they released a game about the crusades where you play as a good guy sand nigger killing Christians who are actually secret illuminati cult responsible for every bad thing in history ever.
Leftists are kinda right when they say "everything is political" or "all art is political" and I want my "political game" to be as right-wing as it can be.

I fucking hate the "Escapism" argument too.
As if entertainment is just supposed to be irrelevant slop that numbs you instead of sharing ideas and stimulating your senses.

 

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I fucking hate the "Escapism" argument too.
As if entertainment is just supposed to be irrelevant slop that numbs you instead of sharing ideas and stimulating your senses.

It's the "losing with dignity" of the culture war.

No, I don't want my games to be apolitical, becuase these ty-d-bowl haired marxist indoctrination victims have made the OK sign, drinking milk, the color blue, cartoon frogs, and heterosexuality all to be "political."

I want my games to be EXPRESSLY political and I want them to have MY politics and culture in them, not the faggots from California's.

• People are not blank slates and you can't swap out a white man for a black lesbian at birth and get the exact same results.
• Yes, men and women exist and both have different roles in society.
• No, open borders is a bad thing and diversity is not a strength.
• By the way, sometimes extremely vile people will use the skinsuit of activism to do extremely vile things.
• And Merit is the only thing that matters, I don't CARE if I don't have a token black lesbian muslim jew transsexual in a wheelchair in my party to go save the world from the demon king or whatever bullshit we're doing in my game, I want people in my party to save the world that are best at saving the world.

I'm tired of the "far right" position being "maybe we should just let the left continue to subvert things while we never influence culture at all."

And the left knows the score here and boy howdy they get REAL fucking pissed if you go past the "losing with dignity" stage. Look at that worldsim game that said "no I'm not adding LGBTQP shit to my game cause it's not that kind of game" or the Roman colosseum sim that refused to add women gladiators and got banned from Steam over the dev telling twitter trolls to fuck off. If you dare go past the overton window engineering that they've setup, which is done expressly so the right never regains ground in the culture war and the left never loses ground, they go bugfuck nuts.

 

[Waifuchu]

Just because I agree with the statement doesn't mean I suddenly want magical fantasy game characters to turn to the camera and say YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN, any more than I wanted fucking Dragon Age to use itself as a platform to pusher made-up gender bullshit.

 

[Breadbassket]

Just because I agree with the statement doesn't mean I suddenly want magical fantasy game characters to turn to the camera and say YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN, any more than I wanted fucking Dragon Age to use itself as a platform to pusher made-up gender bullshit.

A clumsy handling of politics and having all the overt subtlety of throwing a brick through your window is always going to be a potential issue no matter what the ideology of the developers is. In the context of a magic fantasy game and assuming it isn't an established setting where things would automatically be jarring, you can easily have a "You Never Will Be A Woman" moment by having some stupid quest involving a necromancer Ed Gein or something ridiculous like that.

 

[Waifuchu]

A clumsy handling of politics and having all the overt subtlety of throwing a brick through your window is always going to be a potential issue no matter what the ideology of the developers is. In the context of a magic fantasy game and assuming it isn't an established setting where things would automatically be jarring, you can easily have a "You Never Will Be A Woman" moment by having some stupid quest involving a necromancer Ed Gein or something ridiculous like that.

That would be infinitely preferable to "The only way to counter the stupid uber-left idpol pandering in games is to do the exact same thing, but with the reverse message!"

 

[NarkDigger]

That would be infinitely preferable to "The only way to counter the stupid uber-left idpol pandering in games is to do the exact same thing, but with the reverse message!"

Ok, but why would you assume that every game with a right-wing message would automatically be the same thing as "woke" but with the reverse message?

In the context of a magic fantasy game and assuming it isn't an established setting where things would automatically be jarring, you can easily have a "You Never Will Be A Woman" moment by having some stupid quest involving a necromancer Ed Gein or something ridiculous like that.

Doesn't even have to be like that. You could start with something as simple as having an average bad guy archetype in most media aesthetically and rhetorically based on communism instead of "far-right hitler" or "organized religion" or whatever like that.
Or have an RPG where a big theme would be that "yea there are rules to the universe and they are good" instead of "let's rebel against the oppression or something".
There are tons of ideas one could come up with. As long as you don't do that in a way of "hey look this is X but right-wing so come 'right-wing' people and support it just because"

 

[Mister Fister]

Wasteland 3 was awsome here, it painted the King as being a flawed man doing the best he can, while the multiracial and girl power faction was seen as the evil ones.

 

[MazonLabs Recruitment Rep]

Ok, but why would you assume that every game with a right-wing message would automatically be the same thing as "woke" but with the reverse message?

Because you assume every game that doesn't is woke?

if i put a black woman in the game i'm making does that make me woke™

Yes unless you have her dancing around with gigantic bright red lips and is called "Mammy"

 

[NarkDigger]

Because you assume every game that doesn't is woke?

Going back to my example, I assume you might be reffering to. First Assasin's Creed brags about being historically accurate (crossbow removal) and shows the crusades as evil Europeans attacking poor brown people, you play as a muslim tasked with killing white Christians (yes, I know there is a twist that your mentor betrays you, that doesn't change the overall point). If it was released today, we would have rightfully called it woke. Why are you fine with a message like that just because the game happened to be older and "better" than the average "woke" game?

 

[MazonLabs Recruitment Rep]

Going back to my example, I assume you might be reffering to. First Assasin's Creed brags about being historically accurate (crossbow removal) and shows the crusades as evil Europeans attacking poor brown people, you play as a muslim tasked with killing white Christians (yes, I know there is a twist that your mentor betrays you, that doesn't change the overall point). If it was released today, we would have rightfully called it woke. Why are you fine with a message like that just because the game happened to be older and "better" than the average "woke" game?

I'm still in the "I don't want preaching in my game." camp. I want to blow shit up. I want my ultraviolence. Unless I'm intentionally going into a game for it being a sim, I couldn't give a horse's dick. I never got into Asscreed because of the concept so it's message either way don't occupy my worries triage at all. The same reason I have zero interest in playing Dustborn is the same reason I have no interest in playing Ethnic Cleansing. They suck and I'm not wanting my recreation to be a political indoctrination session.

And funny coincidence you bring up Asscreed when one of the games I'm holding out hope for is a game where you can drive onto a battlefield during the War of the Roses with a monster truck and an M1A1.

 

[NarkDigger]

And funny coincidence you bring up Asscreed when one of the games I'm holding out hope for is a game where you can drive onto a battlefield during the War of the Roses with a monster truck and an M1A1.

I brought it up because it fit my example. Based on your description that thing sounds far more interesting and I never said that AC franchise is good but it's popular with the normies so yea.

I want to blow shit up. I want my ultraviolence.

I agree but when you perform ultra violence or blow shit up you have to perform it AGAINST SOMEONE. Why does it always have to be a "far-right/nazi" thing? Why can't we blow up Red Army soldiers? Why can't we blow up a dangerous a drug-dealing gang that happens to be black? Why can't crazy post-apocalyptic maniacs be like troons or blacks instead of regular white men?

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

No, I don't want my games to be apolitical, becuase these ty-d-bowl haired marxist indoctrination victims have made the OK sign, drinking milk, the color blue, cartoon frogs, and heterosexuality all to be "political."

I want my games to be EXPRESSLY political and I want them to have MY politics and culture in them, not the faggots from California's.

And the left knows the score here and boy howdy they get REAL fucking pissed if you go past the "losing with dignity" stage. Look at that worldsim game that said "no I'm not adding LGBTQP shit to my game cause it's not that kind of game" or the Roman colosseum sim that refused to add women gladiators and got banned from Steam over the dev telling twitter trolls to fuck off. If you dare go past the overton window engineering that they've setup, which is done expressly so the right never regains ground in the culture war and the left never loses ground, they go bugfuck nuts.

Just because I agree with the statement doesn't mean I suddenly want magical fantasy game characters to turn to the camera and say YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN, any more than I wanted fucking Dragon Age to use itself as a platform to pusher made-up gender bullshit.

A clumsy handling of politics and having all the overt subtlety of throwing a brick through your window is always going to be a potential issue no matter what the ideology of the developers is. In the context of a magic fantasy game and assuming it isn't an established setting where things would automatically be jarring, you can easily have a "You Never Will Be A Woman" moment by having some stupid quest involving a necromancer Ed Gein or something ridiculous like that.

Before 2010, politics was added to media and literature all the time.

Dr Seuss books had some political themes. As did CS Lewis's literature. As well as John Steinbeck. And JK Rowling. I'd even include George Lucas.

The difference being, these people weren't fucking stupid, and unlike today's wokies and anti-SJWs, were actually capable of empathy.

 

[The Morning Visitor]

Before 2010, politics was added to media and literature all the time.

Dr Seuss books had some political themes. As did CS Lewis's literature. As well as John Steinbeck. And JK Rowling. I'd even include George Lucas.

The difference being, these people weren't fucking stupid, and unlike today's wokies and anti-SJWs, were actually capable of empathy.

It's not just that, political messaging used to be catered to a slightly higher IQ. If something approached propaganda or preachiness, it'd beat around the bush a bit and make you think about the issue. We don't get Yertle the Turtle or The Landlord's Game (Monopoly) anymore, we are greeted with "We are so desperate to prove that troonism is innate that we stuck 'nonbinary' faggots in your high fantasy game. We will have them lecture you about misgendering."

When you're a person of north-of-average IQ, it feels insulting in a way that past persuasion pieces didn't. The works of the past lead you to the water and know that the decision to drink rests with you, but contemporary media will assume you are just as retarded as the writer and will force your head under the surface.

 

[RacistComputer79]

Just because I agree with the statement doesn't mean I suddenly want magical fantasy game characters to turn to the camera and say YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN

Yes. I want the protagonist to grab the camera and yell on top of his lungs at the player: "YOU ARE A FUCKING FAGGOOOOOOOOOT, NOW BUY THE DLC YOU STUPID TRANNY BASTARD, GRAAAAAAAAAAH!"

 

[Rolex]

I haven't read through the entire thread but I figured I'd add my two cents.

This list is pretty good generally, but it's a good reminder that it's almost impossible to include every instance of retarded leftist faggotry injected into games. Partially because their inclusion over time was more like a gradient of shitty tropes that got worse and worse, and partially because there are so, so many ways to include stupid nonsense that it would take many lifetimes to compile the info on every triple A title released in the past decade.

For example, Kingdom Come Deliverance wasn't actually 100% clean. In the early game when you return to your bulldozed town to bury your parents, the group of bandits that fuck you up are confronted right on time and subsequently scared away by a somehow completely unafraid woman doing the notorious powerful woman stance:

Somewhat subtle but completely out of place and unnecessary, considering a cavalry was right behind her. She could have been left out of that moment, or done something less girlboss and more fearful but distracting in an attempt to save Henry's life. She ruins the scene entirely. Not just because of politics, but because her demeanor and pose are jarring and don't make sense for a girl watching her bf about to be brutally executed.
There are small additional things, typically just weird critiques on Christians. Mostly misunderstandings of the faith. For example, in the menu with historical info on all the items and whatnot, I recall an article that states dismissively and matter-of-factly that Christmas trees are pagan, which has been proven false by many people many times over. The writers have never really been that fond of Christianity.

An example in a different game of the gradient thing I mentioned above, I'm playing through HL2 again and realizing just how annoying some of the writing was. It wasn't meant to be overtly feminist or liberal, but you can very clearly see the trashy, self-aware tropes and girlboss silliness starting to creep its way into media in the late 00's. It wasn't done with malintent at the time, but it opened the door.

Sometimes I think that when we don't focus on the roots of the problems, we tend to just chop heads off the hydra rather than provide a substantive critique that can actually influence future writers. Leftist dogshit is more than just dumb political inclusions, it's a putrid mixture of gynocentricity, boring and bad tropes, self-awareness, self-insertion, failed attempts at humor, unsubtle ideological prescription, contrived plots and dialogue, lack of historicity, lack of cohesive theming, and a lack of solid leadership on a given project.

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

Wasteland 3 was awsome here, it painted the King as being a flawed man doing the best he can, while the multiracial and girl power faction was seen as the evil ones.

And, now I have another game on my backlog; thanks!

 

[StacticShock]

Cyberpunk painted the Hatian gang as being irredeemable.

what a funny way to say it was accurate.

You can select your pronouns and type of prosthesis in Forza Horizon 6, in French there is no neutral pronoun. "iel" doesn't exist.

>french
lol, who cares.

I'm playing through HL2 again and realizing just how annoying some of the writing was. It wasn't meant to be overtly feminist or liberal, but you can very clearly see the trashy, self-aware tropes and girlboss silliness starting to creep its way into media in the late 00's. It wasn't done with malintent at the time, but it opened the door.

HL2 is more of a era thing, that was the era of the sidekick and in HL EP's if you hear the commentaries devs specifially mention trying to get the player to like alyx more and more.
i mean, they failed miserably as fuck because alyx is a shit character but hey, they tried and some retards did fell for it to think alyx is a good character, especially the ones that played HL:A.

it's safe to say that modern valve has taken more of a nu-doom approach because they recognize gordan as this doomguy-esque character so they will shift focus, it's like they have forgotten they made blue shift or even care about opfor.