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Unless you have a bird eater tarantula that’s a good way to end up with a dead tarantula. Personally live feeding with mammals is something I just can’t do, it feels wrong. Tho I do understand why some reptile keepers do it, certain snakes get all depressed only eating dead food, I’ve never seen it myself but I’ve heard it.
Even with the "Bird eaters" there is still zero reason to feed them live mice when there is the safer and healthier option of just feeding them large Roaches and Locusts.
Plus it stinks as I gave my Goliath bird eater a frozen thawed rat pup due to my Ball python refusing to eat and not let it go waste. The enclosure stank really bad afterwards so I never did it again.
 
Those pigs could just call up some local conservation place and make the snakes their problems. Most aren't native so they do pose a danger unfortunately, they will either have to be in captivity or put down. The best case scenario is the snakes being donated to some reptile zoo that's responsible.

If anyone's not aware, shows such as Border Security occasionally show the seizure of exotic animals people try to smuggle out of Australia. I've seen reptiles going to Sweden and Japan. They're shoved in socks with cable ties and imprisoned in tupperware boxes without any food or water, and then sent through the mail where boxes are tossed around and sometimes crushed.
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These were caught in the wild because several had ticks on them, which is another biosecurity issue because whoever's importing them is introducing yet another potentially alien critter into their country.
Naturally, animals occasionally finds themselves on ships and gets introduced to other areas due to human transport. It's usually criminals trying to smuggle them. Whacky critters from Australia are supposedly very sought after by retards who can't just stick to weird animals native to their countries.

Either way hope he dies. :)
 
Even with the "Bird eaters" there is still zero reason to feed them live mice when there is the safer and healthier option of just feeding them large Roaches and Locusts.
Plus it stinks as I gave my Goliath bird eater a frozen thawed rat pup due to my Ball python refusing to eat and not let it go waste. The enclosure stank really bad afterwards so I never did it again.
Oh yeah I figured they still prefer invert pray I’m just saying they have the best chance of eating a mouse without some sort of issue with over feeding. Very cool that you have a bird eater, they aren’t legal in my state I just have Chilean rose
 
They still go quiet once the winter comes and start again in the late spring. Still to this day, can't figure out how they really could tell. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Certain invertebrates and reptiles have something called a circadian rhythm. What this means is that the bug is almost preprogrammed to go into dormancy and awake. Some species evolved to do this because they did not have the ability to evolve mechanism that would let them weather the changes in the environment, such as winter. It's pretty cool, and I think you should look into it if you're interested!
 
I've seen reptiles going to Sweden and Japan
When it comes to Japan a lot of those go to the "animal themed cafes"


I suspect those cafes are money laundering fronts for yakuza, 90%+ of smuggled animals die, and the volume is enormous, but they just need a handful to make it alive.
This is not only reptiles, le cute exotic lemurs, capybaras, otters, tons of birds and even fucking racoons.

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Australia are supposedly very sought after by retards who can't just stick to weird animals native to their countries.
Lots of countries won't let you under any circumstance keep local wildlife as "pets".
For example in the US if you want to keep a pet crow because you're a retarded Edgar Allan Poe wannabe you can't keep an american crow bruh there's federal bird acts and shit.
Two options then.

1) You get an american crow that can't be released into the wild so you get a special permit to keep it.
Maim a local birdie so I can keep it!

2) Get a hooded crow from Europe or a brown neck from for Africa, the feds won't bother you.
No you ignorant 1000 baby birds didn't die in shipping! And how this one got here is not my problem! Surely it was ethical!

The loophole is always non native species, this is a problem as large as CP, "Animal lovers" and "Exotic keepers" cry bloody murder when animals are confiscated and killed but how did your own non-native animals got to you? maybe they were the result of breeding after being smuggled so they are a few generations removed from the mass shipping death! That makes you feel better don't you?
 
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When it comes to Japan a lot of those go to the "animal themed cafes"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aN5Hkh1nga0
I suspect those cafes are money laundering fronts for yakuza, 90%+ of smuggled animals die, and the volume is enormous, but they just need a handful to make it alive.
This is not only reptiles, le cute exotic lemurs, capybaras, otters tons of birds and even fucking racoons.
I never thought about how despicable these places are before I saw those owls fucking chained to the post. At least the cats and other animals can move around but owl cafe is retarded.
 
The problem generally with snakes as pets is how fast they are able to bite. I've watched people handle snakes, and one time a guy got bit. It was so fast that no one watching actually realized it happened until he showed us the bite mark afterwards. They also sometimes will just refuse food for no reason, so you can't tell if they are terminally sick, or just being assholes.

Snakes are literally inherently designed to be dangerous to things that fuck with them. If you don't bother them they are perfectly chill, I've had a couple close encounters with wild Rattlesnakes, and they just mosey on out of the way when they see me coming.

If you want a snake-like pet get a skink. They are very silly creatures with funny little legs.
Or a caecilian.
 
Those pigs could just call up some local conservation place and make the snakes their problems. Most aren't native so they do pose a danger unfortunately, they will either have to be in captivity or put down. The best case scenario is the snakes being donated to some reptile zoo that's responsible.

If anyone's not aware, shows such as Border Security occasionally show the seizure of exotic animals people try to smuggle out of Australia. I've seen reptiles going to Sweden and Japan. They're shoved in socks with cable ties and imprisoned in tupperware boxes without any food or water, and then sent through the mail where boxes are tossed around and sometimes crushed.
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These were caught in the wild because several had ticks on them, which is another biosecurity issue because whoever's importing them is introducing yet another potentially alien critter into their country.
Naturally, animals occasionally finds themselves on ships and gets introduced to other areas due to human transport. It's usually criminals trying to smuggle them. Whacky critters from Australia are supposedly very sought after by retards who can't just stick to weird animals native to their countries.

Either way hope he dies. :)
That's the norm shipping non-mammals legally, retarded as it sounds. You look up reptile unboxing videos, frequently you'll find the animals in sacks or inside of plastic deli containers with airholes with some amount of padding (usually cotton stuffing or styrofoam) and maybe some heating/cooling packs to keep them at a safe temperature. It mostly works although horror stories are not uncommon.
 
When it comes to Japan a lot of those go to the "animal themed cafes"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aN5Hkh1nga0
I suspect those cafes are money laundering fronts for yakuza, 90%+ of smuggled animals die, and the volume is enormous, but they just need a handful to make it alive.
This is not only reptiles, le cute exotic lemurs, capybaras, otters tons of birds and even fucking racoons.
I see this garbage animal abuse slop pushed on social media all the time and barely anyone seems to care. I wonder if the nips are paying for them. There's plenty photos of the most average old neighbourhood all over Asia but apparently Japanese ones are special which gets a lot of attention. Trust me, you don't want to live in those old dilapidated houses. I've lived in one, they're pretty bad.
Oh yeah. Follow the money.
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Maybe some owl autist can go and ID those birds. How many aren't native to Japan, thus likely imported illegally? Edit: the species was actually presented above each owl like some kind of fucking dog tag, how sick and soulless.
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We might need a "pet tuber" thread.
 
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Those pigs could just call up some local conservation place and make the snakes their problems. Most aren't native so they do pose a danger unfortunately, they will either have to be in captivity or put down. The best case scenario is the snakes being donated to some reptile zoo that's responsible.

If anyone's not aware, shows such as Border Security occasionally show the seizure of exotic animals people try to smuggle out of Australia. I've seen reptiles going to Sweden and Japan. They're shoved in socks with cable ties and imprisoned in tupperware boxes without any food or water, and then sent through the mail where boxes are tossed around and sometimes crushed.
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These were caught in the wild because several had ticks on them, which is another biosecurity issue because whoever's importing them is introducing yet another potentially alien critter into their country.
Naturally, animals occasionally finds themselves on ships and gets introduced to other areas due to human transport. It's usually criminals trying to smuggle them. Whacky critters from Australia are supposedly very sought after by retards who can't just stick to weird animals native to their countries.

Either way hope he dies. :)
Its even worse what they do to birds to smuggle them out (not going to post pictures but it involves either stuffing them in plastic bottles or tubes or taping the smaller ones onto your thighs), people who do this shit are pure evil and should face harsh laws on the same level as major drug trafficking ontop of animal cruelty laws.
Most the time these animals have to be euthanised as well since the location they were taken from is unknown and they are often in bad health.

We might need a "pet tuber" thread.
We really do.
So many pet tubers videos can be basically amounted to "OH NO!!! I neglected my pets and NOW!! I have to fix it!!!!"
Pets just don't make good content in long form, you can watch a video of a cat being silly for a couple mintues but how do you make a video of snakes weekly for 10 minutes? what do the snakes even do for content? nobody is going to watch you shovel shit and disinfect a tank every week.
So these tubers get more pets for content, they put the animals in situations that normal pet owners do for content.

They basically have 4 options for content,
1. Make do with what animals are and just enjoy them.
2. Buy more animals
3. Shill animal products
4. Harass animals to do something for content

Most fall into 2 and 4.
 
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We might need a "pet tuber" thread.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OTzTpY840WU
The monkey shit fucks with me so badly. I can shrug off a lot of the shit on this site, but not the zoosadism, and chief among that the monkey stuff. They're just close enough to us to the point that it unnerves me in a way not even the dog stuff can. I just don't have the stomach for that thread, and have only dared to pop in once or twice. Semper fi to the kiwis that can archive there without shooting themselves.
 
For example in the US if you want to keep a pet crow because you're a retarded Edgar Allan Poe wannabe you can't keep an american crow bruh there's federal bird acts and shit.
Many times these laws don't make much sense. What's wrong with it if it's a non-endangered non-invasive non-dangerous animal? If it escapes, no big deal. I wouldn't do it because wild animals shouldn't be kept in captivity for no good reason but I've had friendly crows that hung around and recognized me.

I personally wouldn't think of making one as a pet unless I found some stranded chick, and even then I'd probably call someone who'd know what to do not to kill it accidentally.
They're just close enough to us to the point that it unnerves me in a way not even the dog stuff can.
I can't even read that thread. I'm glad people are doing something about it, though. Those people should be put down because the reason they pick monkeys is they haven't quite worked up the nerve to kill a human. They pick them because they're as close to human as you can get while not risking the chair.
 
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He compares getting the serval out of the tub to negotiating with Hamas, lolol.

You get a view of his snake room and it's nothing but but a 40 gallon (2x3?) and a few 20/10 gallons, directly on the floor with overhead heat lamps lol. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't everyone use regulated undertank heat pads these days? I doubt he has temp sensors for all those lights, he was probably baking the fucking snakes.... though he does adhere to hot side/cold side (mostly).... and it could be other herps with UV-B or something...but he says 'snake room.'

I'm intrigued by this cow, I want to know and judge for myself how bad his setup is. Definitely quantity over quality, you can see that at a glance. Definitely has no regard for safety but in terms of animal treatment was he worse than the average pet shop? I dunno yet.
 
I suspect those cafes are money laundering fronts for yakuza, 90%+ of smuggled animals die, and the volume is enormous, but they just need a handful to make it alive.
This is not only reptiles, le cute exotic lemurs, capybaras, otters, tons of birds and even fucking racoons.
I've always gotten some unpleasant vibes from those videos so this is no surprise.
Garter snakes can't do shit to you, so that's kind of mean.
They eat the bugs so you don't have to.
Many times these laws don't make much sense. What's wrong with it if it's a non-endangered non-invasive non-dangerous animal? If it escapes, no big deal. I wouldn't do it because wild animals shouldn't be kept in captivity for no good reason but I've had friendly crows that hung around and recognized me.

I personally wouldn't think of making one as a pet unless I found some stranded chick, and even then I'd probably call someone who'd know what to do not to kill it accidentally.
My neighborhood has a group of crows who enjoy hanging around and I'll occasionally tear up some bread and leave it for them to have but that's because I enjoy seeing them go about their business from afar. I would not be opposed to having a crow friend but I don't feel entitled to their attention. I just think they're neat.

Interestingly enough sometimes it seems like they're peoplewatching on me while I'm going about some tasks outside.
 
the reason they pick monkeys is they haven't quite worked up the nerve to kill a human. They pick them because they're as close to human as you can get while not risking the chair.
That's right on the money. They're the logical conclusion for a zoosadist. Between an animal the size of a toddler and some random Joe Blow, I'm almost inclined to wish they'd just prefer adult, human prey that at least might have a chance at self-defense. But of course monsters and cowards like this don't pick on anything their own size.

I stumbled upon this site around a year before my join date, and even early on in my days on the internet as a teen I didn't have the guts to sit and watch things like live leak of all things, so when I wound up here and eventually came upon the zoosadism thread I found it to be beyond inconceivable. I just didn't think anybody was capable of such things. I think it's one of the few times I've ever been in utter disbelief.
 
Soon to be inactive tag. That's what you get when you travel to a country which doesn't have snake venom farms and facilities to make anti venom.

Darwin award lolcow of the the year.
 
Many times these laws don't make much sense. What's wrong with it if it's a non-endangered non-invasive non-dangerous animal? If it escapes, no big deal.
Nah keeping any wildlife is a big no, no, even if it's endemic. They start losing natural behaviors, associating humans with food or safety, if it escapes chances are it won't be able to reintegrate or it will seek another human, if you are not blackpilled when it comes to people I don't know what to say but I'll tell you that most animals with a defective sense of self preservation that approach a "human fwend" end up dead.
On the topic of a crow it could be as simple as landing on the arm of a kid eating ice-cream to grab some only for the mom to give it a mighty blow with her purse, not even maliciously but reflexively.
Or a zoosadist wins the lottery when a cute birdie willingly goes to him.

It's a sad reality but it's never a good idea to disrupt an ecosystem, people should never forget the reason why "NO FEEDING" signs became a thing in parks and places where wildlife and people interact.
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This is something that we figured out a long time ago.

And when it comes to non-natives the argument of If it escapes, no big deal. is a thing too. I hate to admit this but they use the statistical reality that an animal released on an strange environment will almost certainly die either because, can't reproduce, can't find food, hostile ecosystem, etc...
But fuck dude it only takes the right circumstances to create an invasive species problem, see the fucking everglades and the lion fish in the atlantic.
I fucking hate Floridians so much.
 
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Contraband, deadly and improperly raised snakes not supposed to be in the area they are in
It's not the snakes fault this fucker did this and it sucks they have to die but it is the logical fate for them.
Why not, you know, send it back to its native environment or to an animal sanctuary instead of crushing lingling the Panda's head between your thighs?
 
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