Is Disney's magic spell wearing off?

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Accountant Kit Parfitt has no illusions about the variable quality of some of Disney's recent Marvel Studios' releases.

The She-Hulk and Moon Knight mini-series were weak, he says. The Thor: Love and Thunder film even worse. "Not re-watchable."

But the 27-year-old, a self-described "massive" Disney fan who lives near Brighton, says those disappointments won't keep him from cinemas this month, when the franchise's latest - Ant-Man and the Wasp - debuts.

"When it comes to Marvel, Star Wars, I'll watch anything," he says.

That's the kind of commitment that Disney is banking on as it tries to forge a profitable path in a world of falling cinema sales, pay TV cancellations and money-losing online streaming.

Boss Bob Iger, who was reinstalled in November after the abrupt ousting of chief executive Bob Chapek, told investors this month that the company would be doubling down on its big brands like Marvel and Frozen, time-tested profit-makers, while slashing spending on more risky "general entertainment" fare.

There's a new Little Mermaid, another Indiana Jones and a third Guardians of the Galaxy on deck this year.

Toy Story 5, Frozen III and a second Zootopia, known as Zootropolis in the UK, will come after that.

The moves are a gamble that the strategy that Mr Iger oversaw during his first run as chief executive from 2005 through 2020, when he acquired Marvel, Pixar and Lucasfilm and the firm's share price increased more than sixfold, will continue to work its magic.

He even said the company would step back from its streaming push a bit, looking more to cinemas and traditional television to distribute material than it has in recent years, when it sent content to its Disney+ streaming service in a push to win subscribers.

Will the traditional playbook be enough?

Jessica Reif Ehrlich, an analyst at Bank of America, says the resonance of Disney's brands give it a leg up on its competitors, but investors have yet to be convinced.

Disney's share price has nearly halved since March 2021, and did not move much after Mr Iger outlined his plans.

"Everyone knows there are a tonne of challenges," she says. "There's a lot of heavy lifting ahead."

Fan fatigue?

Cinema ticket sales remain roughly a third lower than they were in 2019, before the pandemic closed theatres around the world.

And the rise of streaming has fractured audiences, making it difficult to generate the kind of buzz that propels people to pay for entertainment.

Oxfordshire mum-of-two Jackie Allen says she opted against a Disney+ subscription for her two children, unconvinced the offering justified adding another expense. The company's upcoming slate does not excite her much either.

"It looks like they're rehashing something just to make money rather than whether it should be made," she says.

Even committed fans like Kit will confess to some fatigue.

Speaking to me among the mix of tourists and locals browsing Disney's cavernous store in Manhattan's Times Square, he says Disney's recent action films such as Avatar can reliably lure him to the cinema.

But wife Andrea, who walked down the aisle to a song from Disney/Pixar 2009 film Up, worries the lengthy backstories that come from developing a franchise like Marvel can be off-putting to new audiences.

And both say they feel little urgency to see something like a Toy Story 5.

Not only are the couple more inclined to stay at home with the cost-of-living rising, but they are generally growing tired of the tale after four films and a spin-off.

"Milking something to number five is a bit much," Kit says.

The charge that Disney relies too heavily on recycling and reworking classics is nothing new.

After all, the firm is gearing up for the ninth version of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs since the first one debuted in 1937.

But in recent years the strategy, which has fuelled decades of success, has become entangled in America's increasingly bitter culture wars, with some updates driving accusations from conservatives that the firm is becoming too "woke".

Last year's release of Lightyear, a spin-off of Toy Story, for example, was clouded by controversy over a same-sex kiss, which the company restored after employees accused the firm of censoring gay affection.

Banned completely in some markets, the film's same-sex plotline also drew criticism from right-wing politicians such as US Senator Ted Cruz.

Despite the risks of alienating some fans, the profit-making potential of a franchise strategy has been proven, says Janet Wasko, professor of media studies at University of Oregon and the author of Disney Inc.

"It is in some ways risky, but building on already existing fans and consumers and expanding what possibilities they have to consume - if it's successful, it really can be incredibly profitable," she says. "I can't imagine they will stop."

Disney fan Amanda Welch, 29, a subscriber to the firm's streaming platform who has been to Disney World more than 10 times, says the company's strategy of going back to its big-hitting brands has done little to dim her love of Disney.

She and fiance Brandon Dumont, 31, have cancelled the service a few times to help manage their expenses. But they keep coming back. Sometimes they turn on Disney+ simply to soothe them to sleep.

"There's not really any Disney movie I'm sick of," Brandon says. "I could watch them over and over."

BBC News
 
Oh. You want to watch Klaus. A perfect classic Disney film in every way. Has some CG, but it's only used to enhance the hand drawn animation. The story is pretty based as well, taking place in a diversity-free world where a community struggles to free itself from the influence of their corrupt leadership.

What's that? Disney didn't make that movie? Oh.... Well, you'll want to watch it anyway. It's basically what Disney would be doing if they hadn't sucked the CG and ESG cocks.
NGL, I cried during this movie.
 
Oh. You want to watch Klaus. A perfect classic Disney film in every way. Has some CG, but it's only used to enhance the hand drawn animation. The story is pretty based as well, taking place in a diversity-free world where a community struggles to free itself from the influence of their corrupt leadership.

What's that? Disney didn't make that movie? Oh.... Well, you'll want to watch it anyway. It's basically what Disney would be doing if they hadn't sucked the CG and ESG cocks.
That actually doesn't look too bad. I miss real animation. I'm just sick of CG animation. It all looks so bland and lifeless. Some CG looks really good but there's nothing like the look hand drawn cels and painted backgrounds.
 
Remember when Disney made a movie entirely about little girls having their periods?

Gee, where did the fucking magic go?
 
Remember when Disney made a movie entirely about little girls having their periods?

Gee, where did the fucking magic go?
it also has that wacky message how a girl should sell images of her new and special growth to get money to buy shit her parents won't spend money on
 
In defense of Thor 4, the comic storyline it was based on is one of the WORST stories from the 2010s and the movie, for all intents of purposes, rewrote the plot from scratch combined with the plot point of making sure Jane Foster died at the end so as to rope off fears of her becoming the new Thor.

She-Hulk meanwhile was a steaming pile of dog shit with no real redeeming value save for Frogman's costume.
ban news about jane
before Kevin found out what everyone knew about phase 4 being a flop. Disney was want to do the 2020 Jane foster( new Valkerie ) in the tv series until The female avenger movie. Thats if Disney is still not broke.
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Remember when Disney made a movie entirely about little girls having their periods?

Gee, where did the fucking magic go? @Kheapathic
Which was a Self-insert movie while making 10 to 20 memes about 9/11 & Sexual Jokes
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That actually doesn't look too bad. I miss real animation. I'm just sick of CG animation. It all looks so bland and lifeless. Some CG looks really good but there's nothing like the look hand drawn cels and painted backgrounds.
Even the big budget CG movies don't have the same kind of stretch and squash that gives high quality animation so much life. I'm not sure why - maybe it ends up looking grotesque in 3D or something.
 
Last year's release of Lightyear, a spin-off of Toy Story, for example, was clouded by controversy over a same-sex kiss, which the company restored after employees accused the firm of censoring gay affection.

Banned completely in some markets, the film's same-sex plotline also drew criticism from right-wing politicians such as US Senator Ted Cruz.

Despite the risks of alienating some fans, the profit-making potential of a franchise strategy has been proven, says Janet Wasko, professor of media studies at University of Oregon and the author of Disney Inc.
Notice the deceptive writing here. They talk about the Lightyear "controversy" then immediately move into the great profit making potential. Trying to conceal that the film did poorly by going directly from talking about it to discussing success.
 
A bit of insider knowledge for kiwis but Disney moving all their movies releases has destroyed their already fragile relationship with the cinema industry. Apparently theyve lost near 30% of cinema market share and many cinema associations are openly telling members to not use Disney. Now its out they lost billions on Disney+ and Im glad theyre in the mud.
 
I love it when they try to put it down to "fatigue". Superhero fatigue, Star Wars fatigue... as if people stop watching good movies because they're just sort of tired of the branding.

X-Men is guaranteed to be one big LGBTQIA+++ celebration. They've shown over and over that they cannot buck any woke shit the recent comics have pushed. It's going to be the MCU's Snowflake and Safespace moment.
I like the terms "Superhero fatigue", "Star Wars fatigue". Is it far-fetched to think then if X-Men became one big LGBTQIA+++ celebration then the franchise will nuke the fridge and it could be a good candidate to become the new 2016 Ghostbusters?
 
A bit of insider knowledge for kiwis but Disney moving all their movies releases has destroyed their already fragile relationship with the cinema industry. Apparently theyve lost near 30% of cinema market share and many cinema associations are openly telling members to not use Disney. Now its out they lost billions on Disney+ and Im glad theyre in the mud.
Also not-so-insider info but they’ve also ruined their relationship with Hollywood’s numerous VFX houses due to poor scheduling and overwork, which is partially why recent Marvel movies have looked so ass.
 
Last year's release of Lightyear, a spin-off of Toy Story, for example, was clouded by controversy over a same-sex kiss, which the company restored after employees accused the firm of censoring gay affection.
I would think the bigger issue is movies like Disney's not wanting traditional heroes so much of their time is spent undercutting the heroes' efforts or painting acting heroically in a negative light.

Checking a plot summary it looks like the main gist of the conflict for the movie was the enemy being Buzz from an alternate timeline that wanted to save people from being marooned on a primitive planet versus the other protagonist Buzz wanting to stop that because it'd undo a lesbian's love life. So the movie really did seem to be based around the lesbians being the true heroes that needed their timeline's love life protected.

Looked up some of the toys based on the movie and they have a girl playing with the action figures and even an old woman action figure. Something tells me not a lot of young girls are playing with action figures nor are a lot of kids going to be excited over a toy based on an old woman.

The problem with a lot of Disney stuff in general, is that they're trying to appeal to every Demographic they can which leads to them making deranged decisions that undermine everything about their movies/properties. Everything Disney feels so neutered.


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ban news about jane
before Kevin found out what everyone knew about phase 4 being a flop. Disney was want to do the 2020 Jane foster( new Valkerie ) in the tv series until The female avenger movie. Thats if Disney is still not broke.
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Which was a Self-insert movie while making 10 to 20 memes about 9/11 & Sexual Jokes
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I haven’t looked into it but it seems to me that the real target demographic of that film is trannies. Seems like something a tranny would write or promote as well.
 
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