Is Disney's magic spell wearing off?

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Accountant Kit Parfitt has no illusions about the variable quality of some of Disney's recent Marvel Studios' releases.

The She-Hulk and Moon Knight mini-series were weak, he says. The Thor: Love and Thunder film even worse. "Not re-watchable."

But the 27-year-old, a self-described "massive" Disney fan who lives near Brighton, says those disappointments won't keep him from cinemas this month, when the franchise's latest - Ant-Man and the Wasp - debuts.

"When it comes to Marvel, Star Wars, I'll watch anything," he says.

That's the kind of commitment that Disney is banking on as it tries to forge a profitable path in a world of falling cinema sales, pay TV cancellations and money-losing online streaming.

Boss Bob Iger, who was reinstalled in November after the abrupt ousting of chief executive Bob Chapek, told investors this month that the company would be doubling down on its big brands like Marvel and Frozen, time-tested profit-makers, while slashing spending on more risky "general entertainment" fare.

There's a new Little Mermaid, another Indiana Jones and a third Guardians of the Galaxy on deck this year.

Toy Story 5, Frozen III and a second Zootopia, known as Zootropolis in the UK, will come after that.

The moves are a gamble that the strategy that Mr Iger oversaw during his first run as chief executive from 2005 through 2020, when he acquired Marvel, Pixar and Lucasfilm and the firm's share price increased more than sixfold, will continue to work its magic.

He even said the company would step back from its streaming push a bit, looking more to cinemas and traditional television to distribute material than it has in recent years, when it sent content to its Disney+ streaming service in a push to win subscribers.

Will the traditional playbook be enough?

Jessica Reif Ehrlich, an analyst at Bank of America, says the resonance of Disney's brands give it a leg up on its competitors, but investors have yet to be convinced.

Disney's share price has nearly halved since March 2021, and did not move much after Mr Iger outlined his plans.

"Everyone knows there are a tonne of challenges," she says. "There's a lot of heavy lifting ahead."

Fan fatigue?

Cinema ticket sales remain roughly a third lower than they were in 2019, before the pandemic closed theatres around the world.

And the rise of streaming has fractured audiences, making it difficult to generate the kind of buzz that propels people to pay for entertainment.

Oxfordshire mum-of-two Jackie Allen says she opted against a Disney+ subscription for her two children, unconvinced the offering justified adding another expense. The company's upcoming slate does not excite her much either.

"It looks like they're rehashing something just to make money rather than whether it should be made," she says.

Even committed fans like Kit will confess to some fatigue.

Speaking to me among the mix of tourists and locals browsing Disney's cavernous store in Manhattan's Times Square, he says Disney's recent action films such as Avatar can reliably lure him to the cinema.

But wife Andrea, who walked down the aisle to a song from Disney/Pixar 2009 film Up, worries the lengthy backstories that come from developing a franchise like Marvel can be off-putting to new audiences.

And both say they feel little urgency to see something like a Toy Story 5.

Not only are the couple more inclined to stay at home with the cost-of-living rising, but they are generally growing tired of the tale after four films and a spin-off.

"Milking something to number five is a bit much," Kit says.

The charge that Disney relies too heavily on recycling and reworking classics is nothing new.

After all, the firm is gearing up for the ninth version of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs since the first one debuted in 1937.

But in recent years the strategy, which has fuelled decades of success, has become entangled in America's increasingly bitter culture wars, with some updates driving accusations from conservatives that the firm is becoming too "woke".

Last year's release of Lightyear, a spin-off of Toy Story, for example, was clouded by controversy over a same-sex kiss, which the company restored after employees accused the firm of censoring gay affection.

Banned completely in some markets, the film's same-sex plotline also drew criticism from right-wing politicians such as US Senator Ted Cruz.

Despite the risks of alienating some fans, the profit-making potential of a franchise strategy has been proven, says Janet Wasko, professor of media studies at University of Oregon and the author of Disney Inc.

"It is in some ways risky, but building on already existing fans and consumers and expanding what possibilities they have to consume - if it's successful, it really can be incredibly profitable," she says. "I can't imagine they will stop."

Disney fan Amanda Welch, 29, a subscriber to the firm's streaming platform who has been to Disney World more than 10 times, says the company's strategy of going back to its big-hitting brands has done little to dim her love of Disney.

She and fiance Brandon Dumont, 31, have cancelled the service a few times to help manage their expenses. But they keep coming back. Sometimes they turn on Disney+ simply to soothe them to sleep.

"There's not really any Disney movie I'm sick of," Brandon says. "I could watch them over and over."

BBC News
 
One can only hope. Though even optimistically they will keep a fairly large fanbase of corporate worshippers and probably manage to stay afloat even if in a limited state.
 
"When it comes to Marvel, Star Wars, I'll watch anything," he says.
what a massive nigger cuck. this guy is the poster child for soyboy faggots. every single disney star wars movie has been terrible, and yet you still have brand loyalty? what a faggot.
andrea, who walked down the aisle to a song from Disney/Pixar 2009 film Up
while up is a good film, you are a faggot for using that as wedding music. disney adults are absolutely pathetic double niggers.
One can only hope. Though even optimistically they will keep a fairly large fanbase of corporate worshippers and probably manage to stay afloat even if in a limited state.
yeah this has been going on for years. people have been screaming super hero burnout for years and so far nothing has come of it. though i do find more average people showing less interest in marvel stuff than before, so maybe things are starting to change a bit. but you are correct, there are disney faggots who will stay loyal to the brand even if they only ever produce absolute garbage such as star wars.
 
yeah this has been going on for years. people have been screaming super hero burnout for years and so far nothing has come of it. though i do find more average people showing less interest in marvel stuff than before, so maybe things are starting to change a bit. but you are correct, there are disney faggots who will stay loyal to the brand even if they only ever produce absolute garbage such as star wars.
One thing I can say has a high probability of happening is them axing Disney + at least the current business model of locking literally everything they produce nowadays behind it. It simply isn't working especially with all of the other competition in streaming. That's truly pathetic with all of the IPs they have bought out.
 
But the 27-year-old, a self-described "massive" Disney fan who lives near Brighton, says those disappointments won't keep him from cinemas this month, when the franchise's latest - Ant-Man and the Wasp - debuts.

"When it comes to Marvel, Star Wars, I'll watch anything," he says.
i once downloaded a zip archive that contained hundreds of soyjaks, and that's still not enough to do this man justice
 
This also came out today
Which in terms of making money has a number of good things
Some highlights
Bob Iger’s Feb. 8 comments that the company needs to be “better at curating” franchise content that’s “extraordinarily expensive.” Added Iger: “We want the quality on the screen, but we have to look at what they cost us.”
There is going to be a level of rigor on Marvel and across the entire company,” one company insider says. “Numbers matter now, and costs are going to be outlined and enforced.”
sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Loki season two and the Samuel L. Jackson-led Secret Invasion are the only sure bets to debut this year. Even projects that wrapped months ago, such as the Hawkeye spinoff Echo and Wakanda Forever spinoff Ironheart, are unlikely to arrive in 2023 as the studio spreads out its content and tinkers in postproduction. And shows in development, such as Nova, are now on a slower path.
On the animation front, 2022 was a tough one for Disney, which saw Pixar’s Lightyear underperform and Disney Animation’s Strange World outright bomb. Iger announced three new sequels to $1 billion brands — Toy Story, Frozen and Zootopia — and Disney insiders have acknowledged recent box office woes were exacerbated by confusion in the marketplace from families who were trained during the pandemic just to wait for animated features to end up on Disney+. There is talk of longer theatrical windows for Elemental (June 16) and Disney Animation’s Wish (Nov. 22) in hopes of luring families back to theaters.

Disney has for sure seemed to have learnt some lessons if those quotes are true, and but with MCU it is a question of too late too late with the changes and if customers will see an improved final quality of the shows/movies.

However Disney still has been unable to create new none animated ips which resonates with audiences, this is something they must course correct. And they have yet to justify the purchase of 20th Century Studios which outside some key ips has been extremely mismanaged in a shockingly short amount of time.
 
"When it comes to Marvel, Star Wars, I'll watch anything," he says.

That's the kind of commitment that Disney is banking on as it tries to forge a profitable path in a world of falling cinema sales, pay TV cancellations and money-losing online streaming.

Boss Bob Iger, who was reinstalled in November after the abrupt ousting of chief executive Bob Chapek, told investors this month that the company would be doubling down on its big brands like Marvel and Frozen, time-tested profit-makers, while slashing spending on more risky "general entertainment" fare.
If you keep pushing an agenda in children movies, it really does not matter which franchise you ruin next, it's just unavoidable.

Even cucks like him will stop hate watching at some point.
 
Disney is not doing what it used to do.

If you just compare the quality of animation and CGI in the garbage currently being pumped into theaters and streaming services it is a joke compared to what drew in audiences.

Now it is all preachy bullshit crafted carefully to allow Disney to cut out the woke shit when they export to other markets and the people writing it are fucking terrible without a shred of ability.
 
I feel like Disney will have a slow death. There's that slow dropoff because parents like to have something to put in front of their kids. However, Disney is making it clear that they apparently don't like money from the Christian two-parent homes, despite the fact that those are the people who literally make up the majority of Disney+ subscriptions. At least their new movies make the manchildren in their audience happy.
 
Disney's been a worse version of what Universal used to be before Walt got fucked over by them and decided "fuck you I'll make a better media company" for a good number of years now and it's just kinda a blatant fact nobody talks about but generally understands.

"Not-rewatchable" is a sign of falling off? Who are these people?
My favorite part of that line it mentions only shit disney bought out rather than shit disney actually made themselves. It alsoframes the new thor movie as worse than she hulk. From what I remember, the main gripe people had with love and thunder was the shitty rushed and overused cgi that even the people that worked on it joked about post release going "yeah that's kinda fucking bad haha" while the people behind she hulk fucking doubled down on the "EVERYONE WHO DOESNT LIKE IT IS SEXIST!!!" shit media types do sometimes. Love and thunder also doesn't' have a huge segment about how the og protagonist is worse because not having to deal with cat calling despite the fact hulk's origin aside from the gamma shit is his father accidentally beat his mother to death which scarred him for life.
 
yeah this has been going on for years. people have been screaming super hero burnout for years and so far nothing has come of it. though i do find more average people showing less interest in marvel stuff than before, so maybe things are starting to change a bit. but you are correct, there are disney faggots who will stay loyal to the brand even if they only ever produce absolute garbage such as star wars.
I completely tuned out after Endgame. I thought about going to see the latest Dr. Strange film, mainly because it was going to see Sir Patrick returning as Professor X, but lost interest when I heard it was only a short cameo.
 
Pirate everything.

If you just compare the quality of animation and CGI in the garbage currently being pumped into theaters and streaming services it is a joke compared to what drew in audiences.
I heard that the CGI people are overworked across the entire industry, but especially at Disney/Marvel. High demand, low pay.
 
"When it comes to Marvel, Star Wars, I'll watch anything,"
"There's not really any Disney movie I'm sick of. I could watch them over and over."
- Statements of the Clinically Deranged
 
So the word on the street regarding Indiana Jones 5 is that he's literally going to get deleted from history with some back to the future bullshit, and the young chick in the movie will be the "new" Indiana Jones who actually did all the stuff from the perspective of the in-film observers.

ha ha ha these cocksuckers just want to burn all of it right to the ground don't they
 
She and fiance Brandon Dumont, 31, have cancelled the service a few times to help manage their expenses. But they keep coming back. Sometimes they turn on Disney+ simply to soothe them to sleep.

Everything about this is shameful.
 
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