Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

[Celestial Peace]

The following is all that I have to say and they are not even my own words. Interpret it as you will.

I knew you would use that as an argument but if you bothered to look for further replies of that same comment you quoted I explain the reason why I feel like this.

And guess what? It has fuck all to do with "tfw no gf" or "so ronery". So, yeah, nice try.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

Starting to think volceldom is the best choice for some people. Doesn't matter if they're male or female. I don't know why its not as talked about as much. Maybe because there isn't much to talk about. The expecation to settle down and have kids is diminishing. But its also a bit weird to think about, because everyone who exists had parents that had sex and they'll not end up passing their genetic legacy. But they might have a family member who does anyway. And we're above all other animals and reproduction doesn't matter in the same way. I could be tired and overthinking this

 

[Icedancer_333]

Just wanted to let everyone here know that your life hasnt began if you arent bare minimum white-passing and 5'10 with a 6 out of 10 face. If you do not meet the criteria then you are just floating in a void living a life akin to purgatory where no woman will ever truly love you. We can only hope for the afterlife to be something amazing because this plane of existence is not for us.

 

[Reminmyster]

Surprised no one is bringing up how women flock to tall men and shit on short men for simply existing or heaven forbid try to speak to a woman.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Surprised no one is bringing up how women flock to tall men and shit on short men for simply existing or heaven forbid try to speak to a woman.

Being tall is a necessary but not sufficient condition, I'm afraid.

 

[Blue Flying Leaf]

Just wanted to let everyone here know that your life hasnt began if you arent bare minimum white-passing and 5'10 with a 6 out of 10 face. If you do not meet the criteria then you are just floating in a void living a life akin to purgatory where no woman will ever truly love you. We can only hope for the afterlife to be something amazing because this plane of existence is not for us.

Those are tru solipsistic incel thoughts.
Reality is women don't love men, they love themselves and how others make them feel. That is pets, kids and various propaganda pieces.

In mans' terms you are a gas station and she has a full tank.

The only woman's love you got is as a kid. If you didn't then you are out of luck in this world.
It may feel that way because you are a shortie or whatever but you are just getting a bit more focused hate than other dudes. Some women will hate you no matter what. Just move on and find someone else.
Expect nothing, no love and you will still be disappointed. Yes, it is this bad.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

Expect nothing, no love and you will still be disappointed. Yes, it is this bad.

If you expect nothing, you will usually get nothing. It's not a good way of approaching the world because few normal people would enter a relationship with someone who already gave up on ever being loved. Stay optimistic and don't let your negative thoughts prevent you from starting a healthy relationship.

 

[Blue Flying Leaf]

You don't have to be a total doomer if you don't have expectations.

 

[Sheikh]

Just spotted a couple of white hairs on my head after letting my hair grow for the first time in like a year. Still not married. Is it over?

 

[Icedancer_333]

Reality is women don't love men

They luvvvv chad.

 

[Blue Flying Leaf]

Just spotted a couple of white hairs on my head after letting my hair grow for the first time in like a year. Still not married. Is it over?

yes
Now you are officially old and can avoid any troubles by saying: I don't have time for that

They luvvvv chad.

They don't. They just hate him slightly less.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Absolutely ditching the idea of bothering with women unless one fell in your lap is probably healthy. It's holding on to that 2% potential of finding a woman with a bit of effort that makes it bothersome. You don't have to treat women like shit but not trying to appease them half the time unironically does more good for landing a hoe than not.

I often forget women are meant to like men, and that some women are into obese and hairy men. Literally 1:1 between the genders yet women are so busy pretending it's not true.

 

[Reminmyster]

Absolutely ditching the idea of bothering with women unless one fell in your lap is probably healthy. It's holding on to that 2% potential of finding a woman with a bit of effort that makes it bothersome. You don't have to treat women like shit but not trying to appease them half the time unironically does more good for landing a hoe than not.

I often forget women are meant to like men, and that some women are into obese and hairy men. Literally 1:1 between the genders yet women are so busy pretending it's not true.

Theres no point in interacting with women at all unless your forced because of a job or whatever. If i could tell all men this i would.

The women that say they are into obese and hairy men are always bull crapping. This is why i don't take a single woman serious.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Theres no point in interacting with women at all unless your forced because of a job or whatever. If i could tell all men this i would.

The women that say they are into obese and hairy men are always bull crapping. This is why i don't take a single woman serious.

I've been perusing this thread gradually and honestly you're not nearly as far off as you think. Like someone else said, you can get all your other wants and needs taken care of in modern human society very quickly. Ironically this makes life seem empty and meaningless for many people and we don't really have any ways left to distinguish ourselves from the rest of the species.

The human desire for intimacy, companionship, and at least occasional sexual fulfillment is the biggest thing that doesn't really have an easy fix for the average person.

I've noticed this about average people in general. Nobody likes being referred to as average, even if there's nothing seriously wrong with it, most people are.

The biggest issue that male incels have is that they don't understand why nobody wants to date them. They make up this thing where only the top five percent of guys get laid and they're all male model millionaires or whatever, but that's because it's easier to project that stuff than it is to understand that you simply might not be what your desired potential partner is looking for.

I don't want to PL too much, but would I want to spend any time with someone that I don't find attractive and/or have nothing in common with?

Probably not.

So I probably shouldn't expect anyone to want to spend time with me either. Especially if the factors listed above apply to myself as well, at least from the perspective of a potential partner.

 

[Lt. H. DuBois]

I've been perusing this thread gradually and honestly you're not nearly as far off as you think. Like someone else said, you can get all your other wants and needs taken care of in modern human society very quickly. Ironically this makes life seem empty and meaningless for many people and we don't really have any ways left to distinguish ourselves from the rest of the species.

The human desire for intimacy, companionship, and at least occasional sexual fulfillment is the biggest thing that doesn't really have an easy fix for the average person.

I've noticed this about average people in general. Nobody likes being referred to as average, even if there's nothing seriously wrong with it, most people are.

The biggest issue that male incels have is that they don't understand why nobody wants to date them. They make up this thing where only the top five percent of guys get laid and they're all male model millionaires or whatever, but that's because it's easier to project that stuff than it is to understand that you simply might not be what your desired potential partner is looking for.

I don't want to PL too much, but would I want to spend any time with someone that I don't find attractive and/or have nothing in common with?

Probably not.

So I probably shouldn't expect anyone to want to spend time with me either. Especially if the factors listed above apply to myself as well, at least from the perspective of a potential partner.

Youre too old to be talking like this, you sound like an angsty 19 yr old. Are you genuinely autistic?

 

[Duke Nukem]

Youre too old to be talking like this, you sound like an angsty 19 yr old. Are you genuinely autistic?

Maybe I am and maybe I'm not.

My point is that maybe you're just not what the person you desire is looking for.

And it's not like a dating sim where you can up your stats and come back another day when you finally out-Chad Chad himself and she has no choice but to go along with you.

There are plenty of unattractive women you can try for instead but I understand it's more of a narcissistic thing with those types.

They just have to show that bastard Chad that they're just as good as getting hot girls interested as he is, or else they're no good.

 

[Qonas]

They make up this thing where only the top five percent of guys get laid

It's not "made up" when there's statistics and numbers.

 

[Duke Nukem]

It's not "made up" when there's statistics and numbers.

Statistics and numbers can be fudged as well. Granted there are some preferences but it's not like you're doomed if it turns out you're not exactly He-Man meets Ryan Gosling or whatever the fuck.

There are a good number of guys who do find suitable partners out there, the difference is that most of them aren't spergs who sit on odd corners of the internet wondering why they get no women interested in them.

 

[Bothriolepis]

Just wanted to let everyone here know that your life hasnt began if you arent bare minimum white-passing and 5'10 with a 6 out of 10 face. If you do not meet the criteria then you are just floating in a void living a life akin to purgatory where no woman will ever truly love you.

Whether it's intentional or not, the word "truly" is doing some really fucking heavy lifting here to turn this into an unfalsifiable statement.

I'm 5'3 and I  believe that my fiancé loves me. I mean, she acts exactly like how someone who loves me would act. She's supportive, caring, etc., but I can't literally read her mind. Maybe deep down inside she resents me, stays because of some undefinable compulsion, and only sleeps with me because she's a masochist and the idea of being used as a cum dumpster by a manlette gets her off. Who knows? I mean, I do, if I'm allowed to use common sense, but I can't technically know beyond a shadow of a doubt how anyone feels.

Most people find a compatible sexual partner at some point in their lives. Most of those also find love. There are exceptions, but they're usually people who are intellectually or socially disabled, not just short. Even the majority of them don't die virgins unless they're so impaired that they can't consent to sex anyway. If you want to stay a member of the dry dick club, though, keep on complaining about your shitty genetics.

 

[Celestial Peace]

Ironically this makes life seem empty and meaningless

FFS does your life revolve around other people? Quit being a faggot and go learn to do shit for yourself to yourself. Why does everyone, both men and women, have this gay retarded need to be someone else's emotional crutch?

The human desire for intimacy, companionship, and at least occasional sexual fulfillment is the biggest thing that doesn't really have an easy fix for the average person.

Switch these words for "self-satisfaction" and you'll be correct. These feelings are driven by pure need of feeling satisfied. Most people have relationships becuase they want to feel the satisfaction to either prove to your social peers that you're not a lonely person or to not feel lonely and left out because everybody else is dating. That's it.

You want someone to play a role and you expect them to play that role accordingly and people have the pretentiousness to call that "love". In general, people feel attracted to what you have and not who you are because they don't give a fuck about who are. It's all about what do you have to offer. Those who claim otherwise are either stupid or liars.

"Oh, but I am so funny, smart and outgoing when I'm with others and they like being around me." Yeah, congrats, you've became a display window. But there are other windows that show more interesting products.

"B-but I don't need to be a people pleaser. I have my own friends." You've found your target audience, good for you. Be careful to not let that social mask shatter because you're going to need it.

Them human relationships are nothing but a theater play: you just have to memorize the script, put up a nice costume, act well and you'll hear applauses. Do it wrong and the public will boo you and that includes friends, girlfriend and even relatives.

Some insist that's part of life but that is just them being caught up in their own masquerade and becoming deluded into thinking everybody should and have to live like this.

There are a good number of guys who do find suitable partners out there, the difference is that most of them aren't spergs who sit on odd corners of the internet wondering why they get no women interested in them.

Because, unlike incels, they're doing exactly what I wrote above. The frustation of some incels might be over the fact that they wish they could have a better social mask to wear becuase theirs is broken or they don't have one.