Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

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Icedancer_333 said:
Its not fair I cant have my pick of bad bitches like chad does. Idk how more people aren't hung up on this. Most incels say that they only want to have a boring wholesome family with a life that loves them but that just sounds dull to me. I want to fuck a black girl with straight blonde hair and a fat ass on Tuesday, a Swedish stacy with G cups on Thursday, and a 4'11 short busty latina on Saturday. That is what MEN are meant for, to pump and dump hella girls all the time and not this family man cuck bullshit
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If that's what you want then go and pay for hookers.
 
Icedancer_333 said:
Its not fair I cant have my pick of bad bitches like chad does. Idk how more people aren't hung up on this. Most incels say that they only want to have a boring wholesome family with a life that loves them but that just sounds dull to me. I want to fuck a black girl with straight blonde hair and a fat ass on Tuesday, a Swedish stacy with G cups on Thursday, and a 4'11 short busty latina on Saturday. That is what MEN are meant for, to pump and dump hella girls all the time and not this family man cuck bullshit
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How is jail, Mr Tate sirs
 
Duke Nukem said:
Most people I know who are in successful relationships, it just happened. They just met and things happened. That's it.
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You like dogs, you buy a dog. You're autistic so you get a wacky breed. You go to a dogpark; a girl is with her friend, sees your dog and comes running. She's on her knees and your dog is lapping all over her. ""Omg I thought nobody else liked these, can I play with her?". Chances are this display from both bitches makes her a 8 to you.

Meanwhile you match with a random girl, re-read her bio and wonder if she's even worth a message, especially compared to the next mid broad who matches you. Rinse repeat. Bigger tits replace big tits. Your interest is as deep as the looks of a person is compared to the soul.
 
I'd say "just go to a bathhouse" to meme on incels but unironically the bathhouse in my town is now a co-ed swinger/straight bdsm hangout so I guess in a non-meme sense just go to a bathhouse lol. They're not even gay anymore
 
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
You like dogs, you buy a dog. You're autistic so you get a wacky breed. You go to a dogpark; a girl is with her friend, sees your dog and comes running. She's on her knees and your dog is lapping all over her. ""Omg I thought nobody else liked these, can I play with her?". Chances are this display from both bitches makes her a 8 to you.

Meanwhile you match with a random girl, re-read her bio and wonder if she's even worth a message, especially compared to the next mid broad who matches you. Rinse repeat. Bigger tits replace big tits. Your interest is as deep as the looks of a person is compared to the soul.
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So what you're sayin' is... white women fuck dogs? Because that's what I'm getting out of this.
 
Icedancer_333 said:
I want to fuck a black girl with straight blonde hair and a fat ass on Tuesday, a Swedish stacy with G cups on Thursday, and a 4'11 short busty latina on Saturday.
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This is where "Just go find a hooker" becomes legitimate advice. Anyone in that situation is either paying, has something else that they can offer that stands out in a way that makes them a sex object (rock stars, famous athletes, high-level actors, etc.), or is part of some weird sex thing. Maybe a swinger's group, maybe a cult. The overwhelming majority of both men and women want longterm monogamous relationships, so you're shrinking the pool of available partners while simultaneously wanting a buffet.
 
Bothriolepis said:
This is where "Just go find a hooker" becomes legitimate advice. Anyone in that situation is either paying, has something else that they can offer that stands out in a way that makes them a sex object (rock stars, famous athletes, high-level actors, etc.), or is part of some weird sex thing. Maybe a swinger's group, maybe a cult. The overwhelming majority of both men and women want longterm monogamous relationships, so you're shrinking the pool of available partners while simultaneously wanting a buffet.
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Longterm monogamous relationships are not a thing in nature. Women are meant to find the most genetically fit seed for bearing the best children and men are meant to spread their seed with as many women possible. Hookers wont work because they do not provide that desire for my genes that a consenting woman would.
 
Icedancer_333 said:
Longterm monogamous relationships are not a thing in nature. Women are meant to find the most genetically fit seed for bearing the best children and men are meant to spread their seed with as many women possible. Hookers wont work because they do not provide that desire for my genes that a consenting woman would.
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So your solutions at that point would be to either be a gigachad or rich mofo that can withstand the divorce rape that will happen afterwards.
 
I forgot I fucking made this thread.

If it's being revived, I don't think it is wrong for some men who just want to be whores. Wear a condom and keep your dick out of crazy if you don't want to be a father or pay child support, and you can be that sort of man whore. If not, you're leaving behind a child that you tell to go fuck themselves because you need to have your freedom, and you deserve a single mom household because fuck you child. Just take responsibility if actions have consequences.

What I think however is that there is no "pussy communism" as other people have put it. You have to earn being attractive to others, whether through charisma or looks or any other value. Looks fade (does Chad live in his 40s-60s smashing pussy or is he unfulfilled?), charisma can be polished but some men are doomed to be too autistic or selfish, and worse comes to worse, you have to make money and work hard. None of these things are easy or even achievable by everyone, and some men and women just can't get a partner for reasons they might not be able to grasp, but everyone else does. I think a decent portion of incel bitching comes from that group of men and women where you see people with abhorrent personalities and no other qualities to balance it out.

Basically:
I want to be a hoe = ok, just take responsibility for consequences and prevent bad things from happening to yourself if you do.
I don't want to work on earning partners = yeah well most of us want a roof over our head and to have cash without having to work either but you know, that's not possible.
 
When I think of the incel problem I think of the movie shallow hal. You have the main character, who's fat and unattractive desperately wanting a girlfriend but only chases attractive women so he never gets a girl friend. He gets hypnotized to see ugly and fat women as pretty and gets a girlfriend instantly. Only he doesn't realize he was actually hypnotized until later on.

Seriously. That fucking movie explains the incel problem perfectly. I can bet any amount of money these guys could pair up with a very fat woman, an ugly woman or dark skinned black woman with ease on these dating apps -they just don't want to. They want an attractive woman and it's just not going to happen.
 
Sweetpeaa said:
When I think of the incel problem I think of the movie shallow hal. You have the main character, who's fat and unattractive desperately wanting a girlfriend but only chases attractive women so he never gets a girl friend. He gets hypnotized to see ugly and fat women as pretty and gets a girlfriend instantly. Only he doesn't realize he was actually hypnotized until later on.

Seriously. That fucking movie explains the incel problem perfectly. I can bet any amount of money these guys could pair up with a very fat woman, an ugly woman or dark skinned black woman with ease on these dating apps -they just don't want to. They want an attractive woman and it's just not going to happen.
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I think it's different and the internet is a large reason why. I think it's almost entirely women's personalities that get showcased and reinforced with the internet. Pretty women are almost universally nicer and better partners.

People, especially younger people want connections outside of their SO. It's that Simp is only allowed to talk to his girlfriend, while Chad can hug his female friends or hangout with them without any issue. Or that Simp has to pay for everything, and can't tell offensive jokes while Chad gets to split 50/50 and make girls laugh.
 
PaleTay said:
I think it's different and the internet is a large reason why. I think it's almost entirely women's personalities that get showcased and reinforced with the internet. Pretty women are almost universally nicer and better partners.

People, especially younger people want connections outside of their SO. It's that Simp is only allowed to talk to his girlfriend, while Chad can hug his female friends or hangout with them without any issue. Or that Simp has to pay for everything, and can't tell offensive jokes while Chad gets to split 50/50 and make girls laugh.
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Counterpoint: Incels in this thread have literally said things like "If I met a girl who was a 10/10 in every way, but she got a tramp stamp when she was a young, dumb 19-year-old, I would not have sex with her."

Autistic people tend to very pedantic about a very specific set of rules they deem to be important. For example, they may like their pizza with very specific toppings, and is it ends up having salami instead of pepperoni, they will not eat it and literally wretch as if they had just eaten shit, despite the fact the the vast majority of the adult population wouldn't care or even notice. That alone explains 99% of the incel stuff I've read.
 
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Never Scored said:
Counterpoint: Incels in this thread have literally said things like "If I met a girl who was a 10/10 in every way, but she got a tramp stamp when she was a young, dumb 19-year-old, I would not have sex with her."
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
Dawdler said:
It may be that there's no benefit in dating a whore or a tramp
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And when she gets tattoos it makes it pretty obvious.
 
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