Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

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What does a straight white man do? Work for decades for a world that gives back nothing but venom, and be ignored until it comes time for another salvo of anti-white messaging. No wonder there is so much bitterness.
They get a job, find a wife, maybe have some kids and live their life. This is still very much possible in the modern day, but doomers like you ignore that.
 
I think some kind of “soft-prostitution” will take off, beyond just men paying for diners and dates. Explicitly paying for a woman’s attention and intimacy in person will become normalized and a lot of men will happily buy into it.

Edit: like I said, it’s not a big jump from paying for dinners, movies, gas, or even premium apps, etc. and if anyone complains they’ll be labeled as entitled for wanting that relationship without paying

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I think some kind of “soft-prostitution” will take off, beyond just men paying for diners and dates. Explicitly paying for a woman’s attention and intimacy in person will become normalized and a lot of men will happily buy into it.

Edit: like I said, it’s not a big jump from paying for dinners, movies, gas, or even premium apps, etc. and if anyone complains they’ll be labeled as entitled for wanting that relationship without paying

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That already exists with onlyfans, snapchat and other social media where those maladjusted women sell not just their nudes, but also their time for phone calls and video chats to simps. The better outcome is for men to not even humor any of that and instead do something more productive.
 
I think some kind of “soft-prostitution” will take off, beyond just men paying for diners and dates. Explicitly paying for a woman’s attention and intimacy in person will become normalized and a lot of men will happily buy into it.
You always pay for womanly affection, whether you're married or not.
I take your point, though! :-)
 
You always pay for womanly affection, whether you're married or not.
The problem isn't paying for the affection of women. It's how cheap it is and how temporary it is. It literally feels like prostitution insofar as you are just looking for a good time rather than trying to find a long term relationship.

That already exists with onlyfans, snapchat and other social media where those maladjusted women sell not just their nudes, but also their time for phone calls and video chats to simps. The better outcome is for men to not even humor any of that and instead do something more productive.
At this point, that's the only reasonable alternative to how flat out dysfunctional the modern dating pool is. Most women only exist to waste your time to your own detriment. The best thing a man can do is use his time wisely and look for women who have enough sense to respect other people's time, talent and treasure.
 
I think some kind of “soft-prostitution” will take off, beyond just men paying for diners and dates. Explicitly paying for a woman’s attention and intimacy in person will become normalized and a lot of men will happily buy into it.

Edit: like I said, it’s not a big jump from paying for dinners, movies, gas, or even premium apps, etc. and if anyone complains they’ll be labeled as entitled for wanting that relationship without paying

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You mean sugar dating and that shit has been around for a long time.

I'm thinking that the West will start to accept, or at least turn a blind eye to Bride buying (yes, I'm hinting at that the government will start ignoring feminism on this specific issue), China is doing this with countries nearby to solve their lonely men problem. Western governments are already ignoring (or just can't stop) muslims from doing it from their home country for their sons that lives here, what stoping the rest of the men from just looking up bride prices and go with it as well. From the police perspective, better to just let lonely men do their thing (over the borders) rather than having this problem boil up to us having a Boko Haram brides becoming a real threat.

> inb4 schizo

Look if your country has documents called TRAP-18 or similar guidelines on how to spot terrorist recruits, it pretty much states that if a guy hasn't had a relationship, he's pretty much a potential problem for the country due to he's very easy to be recruited by a "foreign power".
 
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Look if your country has documents called TRAP-18 or similar guidelines on how to spot terrorist recruits, it pretty much states that if a guy hasn't had a relationship, he's pretty much a potential problem for the country due to he's very easy to be recruited by a "foreign power".
The Atlantic had an article about how the Palestinians had a problem with Black September terrorist group chimping out, so they gathered patriotic women who wanted to help their motherland, and married these to the single male terrorists. The terror problems completely stopped almost instantly. Here it is for the curious.

I have no contribution beyond this. Just made me think.
 
The Atlantic had an article about how the Palestinians had a problem with Black September terrorist group chimping out, so they gathered patriotic women who wanted to help their motherland, and married these to the single male terrorists. The terror problems completely stopped almost instantly. Here it is for the curious.

I have no contribution beyond this. Just made me think.
Pretty much the protocol, didn't expect anything else. Nice to see that there is something documented about it.

Going to be interesting to see how the current politicians and other organization are going to handle it, the 4chan state mandated GF meme won't be an option due to feminism, and as your link mentioned, they picked young and "patriotic" (code name for same race/ethnicity). So the "> here is your +25 y/o Bantu wife bro" is not going to work at all. Also, this was just in a smaller region, well now it's the whole West and many parts of Asia. As I said before, they have the TRAP-18 guideline, so they know that this is a major problem about to boil over at any moment. MSM is trying their best to neglect this, by saying it's just "a few losers" hoping that the shaming will keep men quiet and to not "get any ideas" (LMFAO imagine a Western version of Boko Haram).
 
@Vulpes Mulpes It's funny, I wanted to respond to you throughout this entire week but my life that I loath greatly which consists only of work, chores, and short sleeps got in the way. Like so many men I silently suffer and I am so incredibly bitter because of it.

But anyway, you put it very well. Incels come in different types and from different backgrounds, it's a state of being that males find themselves in and it's not often of their own doing. They have no support network and the power base of the west reacts to their situation by demonizing them and never offering help or even an ear. This leads to them becoming further despondent.

The number of incels will continue to rise as time goes on. White men have absolutely no place in society anymore and there isn't much hope of finding away out of inceldom. What is the point in even trying to be part of this sick society anymore anyway.

You are right, women never admit fault and so they will never take the blame for the betrayal enacted against their own men. They will try and guilt us into standing up for them as the streets become too dangerous for them to walk down, and wish for the return of masculinity, but to the very end they will tell us that we are still worthless.

They get a job, find a wife, maybe have some kids and live their life. This is still very much possible in the modern day, but doomers like you ignore that.
I have a job and it doesn't being me any joy. I am used. I am a tax farm for the tribe that is working to make my people extinct. I am worked to the bone and I barely make enough to pay the bills. Fuck trying to live a "normal" life and pretending nothing is going on. The west is falling and you will have to admit it soon.
 
Pretty sure we're gonna have Robo GFs in the next 5 years.
Fujoshi teenage girls have you guys beat with shitting up those stupid ass character ai bots for hours on end. I’m pretty sure you can make your own bots too.
 
Do you guys want help finding a lady?

Drop this "traditional", right-wing, woman-hating bible thumper shit.

Women don't want to be seen as just incubators for babies. Women want to have lives outside of the house. Women don't want to be with a man who calls all women who won't have sex with them whores. Women don't want to be with an autistic bible thumper who reminds them of their 85 year old grandfather.
 
When I was younger I struggled to get girls and obsessed over them. When I finally got a relationship I realized women are overated and having to be around them is agonizing.
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Unfortunately most young men don't realize this and put them on a pedestal.
The solution imo is going overseas and having sex with as many poor and impoverished women as possible. This is accessible and achievable and will make them realize vagina isn't everything.
 
Do you guys want help finding a lady?

Drop this "traditional", right-wing, woman-hating bible thumper shit.

Women don't want to be seen as just incubators for babies. Women want to have lives outside of the house. Women don't want to be with a man who calls all women who won't have sex with them whores. Women don't want to be with an autistic bible thumper who reminds them of their 85 year old grandfather.
You are the last person on this site who should be giving any form of advice.
 
The solution imo is going overseas and having sex with as many poor and impoverished women as possible.
Predatory behaviour tbqh fam and it won't make you feel better about your situation.
having to be around them is agonizing.
Other people is suffering.
Pretty sure we're gonna have Robo GFs in the next 5 years.
"She's only programmed to be very nice
But she's as cold as ice whenever I get too near"
 
Predatory behaviour tbqh fam and it won't make you feel better about your situation.
It's much better to feel a little bad and having a few kids than dying as a disposable tax cattle with no kids. The potential happiness outweigh the not doing anything for guaranteed suffering.
 
I'm thinking that the West will start to accept, or at least turn a blind eye to Bride buying (yes, I'm hinting at that the government will start ignoring feminism on this specific issue), China is doing this with countries nearby to solve their lonely men problem.
I doubt western feminists would ever give up a fresh talking point like mail-order brides.
As far as the government goes, another option is just too easy to ignore: Just go to war and conscript/draft. It's literally that easy. I wonder how the demographics in Russia/Ukraine will be when the current forever war is over.

As far as the topic goes it's because I'm a sped. Simple as.
 
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