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Yeah, Earth ended as a shithole or something but the movie keeps it very vague what exactly that means, however, it really is implied that xenos werent involved so I guess thats just some environmental apocalypse or something.
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Yeah, Earth ended as a shithole or something but the movie keeps it very vague what exactly that means, however, it really is implied that xenos werent involved so I guess thats just some environmental apocalypse or something.
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"Earth ends up a shithole because of... humans." would be a pretty appropriate ending
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Or how there are lots of facehuggers in the teaser unless eggs were picked up from the Engineer ship.
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Eh, I'm okay with this. Believe it or not, the very first comic book (retitled Aliens: Outbreak with the followups Nightmare Asylum and Female War) did that. That's exactly what happened in the comic: some explorers are flying through space, the big mofo just happens to land there, and breaks through the fucking dome. It was actually pretty cool:
I think this is plausible. Helluva coincidence but we don't know if the creature needs oxygen to survive. It was floating out there for a while at the end of Alien and was still alive and kicking. Whose to say that the cold of space could kill it?
Also, I can't recommend the Dark Horse comics enough: https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Aliens-Omnibus/TPB-1?id=121258#1
This is set before Alien 3 and follows the adventures of Hicks and Newt. Even though the 3rd one, Female War, really sucks despite having the guy who created The Maxx work on the art.
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yeah I was gonna say, I was under the impression that they're pretty hearty about open space, they seem to be more "argh I'm flailing around because there's nothing to grab" than "explode"
it's still super gay that it's THE alien from Alien
also those panels were even better in b/w fuck colorized Aliens
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It is "the perfect organism" so it would make sense that (whoever the fuck created it, David, Space Jockey, insane evil God, whatever) would engineer them to able to keep going in the vacuum of space.
I like the colorized version but the B&W version is superior and that's why I held onto the B&W hardback copy.
That also happens in the comic. The writer of the comic admitted he ripped off Battlestar Galactica but essentially the government gets their hand on the Alien on Earth, shit hits the fan, and humanity flees Earth on their arks while the Alien spreads throughout the galaxy. And I am completely fine with that as well. If they're aiming to recreate the Dark Horse comics then I see that as a good omen. There were a lot of great comics that explored that universe.
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>tfw you were big mad about the new sequels shitting up your 20th Century Fox franchise extended universe DECADES ahead of the curve
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Didnt they legit had new editions released post Alien 3 where Newt and Hicks are legit fucking renamed because they was still trying to be canon? So we just happen to have a marine that looks exactly like Hicks, right down to the acid burn scar but it is NOT him...not anymore lol.
But they even had Ripley and they couldnt rename her so they just said it was a synthetic.
Now that was freaking desperate, lol.
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Since I'm on the topic of the comics. I'll bring up some of my favorites:
BTW: the Marvel/Disney Alien/Predator comics are dog shit. It's like they deliberately hired the worst artists and writers to work on those books. They are garbage. Do not bother. Stick to the Dark Horse shit (I'm willing to bet the same thing applies to those Dark Horse Star Wars comics too).
Aliens:
Note: Dark Horse only licensed Aliens and not Alien or Alien 3 and so on discounting the mini series adaptations of those movies later down the road. So, all Dark Horse comics are named Aliens : blank. Same with Predator (because they only licensed the first movie).
The entire TPB volume 1 comes recommended. You get Outbreak, Nightmare Asylum (which has fantastic airbrushed art that I'll show here
And you have the theory of Alien Propagation. As I said, Female War sucks but it does have some interesting ideas.
Rogue: introduces the idea of a King Alien. Which sounds stupid on paper but give it a chance. A scientist creates a Berserker (informally called a King Alien) and the idea is to unleash this mofo inside a hive where it will kill everything it sees including the queen and destroy the hive. Fun idea.
Labyrinth: one of my absolute favorites. Very twisted and even maybe disturbing comic. Easily the most graphic Aliens comic. It focuses on a scientist who keeps the creatures in a labyrinth for tests. This is where he tests some of his theories and this is the origin of the theory that the creature uses pheromones to detect us. Bodies start appearing and the good doctor is the number one suspect. Leading to one of the most absolutely twisted excursions in the comic where we see the doctor as a young man with his family and crew being taken into a hive. If you ever had the question "What if an Alien hive doesn't have a queen? What happens?" This answers that question in the most horrifying way you could imagine. Did I hype this up enough?
Alchemy: art by Richard Corben. Very interesting comic that explores a few ideas from the scrapped Alien 3 scripts where we see the beast loose among a colony of monks that have rejected technology. Recommended just for the art:
Kidnapped: this is more schlock but it still does something different. An Alien egg has "A bunch of pink crap on it" and is rejected by a potential buyer, so the dumbass mercs stuck with this Alien egg take it to an anarchist society to sell it. Hyper gory insane comic featuring a pink Chestburster going on a massive killing spree.
Predator:
Concrete Jungle. The first comic and the direct inspiration for Predator 2. Tons of crossover and it's like reading an alternate universe version of Predator 2 where it keeps escalating and it goes even more OTT by the end.
Cold War. Predator versus Russians. They also introduce one new weapon: a giant fucking bear trap.
Race War. You REALLY can't do a comic like this one today. Very interesting premise: a Predator (armed with two gauntlets) hunts at a prison rife with racial tension. Very fun gory comic.
1718: a short comic but it goes over the origin of the flintlock pistol seen at the end of Predator 2.
Bad Blood. Insane schlock that I love. Great premise. Predators are flying by Earth transporting a prisoner. The prisoner is a criminal Predator who is also insane. Shit hits the fan and the thing escapes, killing everyone on board and partially cannibalizes them. It just so happens the ship crash lands in the forest hills of New Jersey while a bunch of mercs decide to kill some time and hunt this mofo down because the dumbass FBI can't help themselves. Plot twist: this Predator DOES NOT GIVE A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT A CODE OF HONOR. And this thing slaughters everything it fucking sees in hyper gory displays. It gets better when a cop Predator appears to fight the mofo. This is also the source of the idea in Predators (Predator 3) showing multiple races of Predators and that they do not fucking get along.
Kindred: One of my favorites. A guy's father is killed during a hunting trip and he's scarred for life by the experience. 20 years later, the same Predator comes back and this guy is working through some daddy issues. Plot twist: an active serial killer in the area learns about the Predator and worships it as a god. VERY good comic. I would call this a classic.
Hell and Hot Water: not as good but I still recommend it because of the premise. This one is set deep underwater as a special forces team hunts down the creature who is hunting obscure super predators of the deep ocean.
Hell Come A Walkin': Predator in the Civil War. That's all you need.
Captive: a one shot but worth looking at where it takes the usual premise of a corporation or government holding the Predator captive and shit hits the fan. Fun but short.
Bonus, Alien VS Predator comics that are worth a damn:
The first series.
Duel. This is the one that introduced the idea of a PredAlien hybrid.
Three World War.
Eternal. More of a Predator comic that just happens to have Aliens but it's really good. An ancient Mongolian or whateverthefuckheis guy is expelled from his village and lucks out by finding a crashed Predator ship. He uses the technology to become immortal and harvests Predator tech. Flash forward to our future and the Predator tech has been adopted by elite government assassins which attracts Predator attention. Meanwhile, the Mongolian dude has a few underlings work on the Predator ship and -surprise- Alien eggs are on board and hatch.
Edit: when it comes to the Versus comics, they're pretty much all bad. The only ones that are good are: the Judge Dredd ones. They got the writers of the Dredd comics to work on these and they're a ton of fun to read. The only other one I would recommend would be the first Batman VS Predator even though it rewrites the Predator as just an evil alien that kills anyone.
BTW: the Marvel/Disney Alien/Predator comics are dog shit. It's like they deliberately hired the worst artists and writers to work on those books. They are garbage. Do not bother. Stick to the Dark Horse shit (I'm willing to bet the same thing applies to those Dark Horse Star Wars comics too).
Aliens:
Note: Dark Horse only licensed Aliens and not Alien or Alien 3 and so on discounting the mini series adaptations of those movies later down the road. So, all Dark Horse comics are named Aliens : blank. Same with Predator (because they only licensed the first movie).
The entire TPB volume 1 comes recommended. You get Outbreak, Nightmare Asylum (which has fantastic airbrushed art that I'll show here
And you have the theory of Alien Propagation. As I said, Female War sucks but it does have some interesting ideas.
Rogue: introduces the idea of a King Alien. Which sounds stupid on paper but give it a chance. A scientist creates a Berserker (informally called a King Alien) and the idea is to unleash this mofo inside a hive where it will kill everything it sees including the queen and destroy the hive. Fun idea.
Labyrinth: one of my absolute favorites. Very twisted and even maybe disturbing comic. Easily the most graphic Aliens comic. It focuses on a scientist who keeps the creatures in a labyrinth for tests. This is where he tests some of his theories and this is the origin of the theory that the creature uses pheromones to detect us. Bodies start appearing and the good doctor is the number one suspect. Leading to one of the most absolutely twisted excursions in the comic where we see the doctor as a young man with his family and crew being taken into a hive. If you ever had the question "What if an Alien hive doesn't have a queen? What happens?" This answers that question in the most horrifying way you could imagine. Did I hype this up enough?
Alchemy: art by Richard Corben. Very interesting comic that explores a few ideas from the scrapped Alien 3 scripts where we see the beast loose among a colony of monks that have rejected technology. Recommended just for the art:
Kidnapped: this is more schlock but it still does something different. An Alien egg has "A bunch of pink crap on it" and is rejected by a potential buyer, so the dumbass mercs stuck with this Alien egg take it to an anarchist society to sell it. Hyper gory insane comic featuring a pink Chestburster going on a massive killing spree.
Predator:
Concrete Jungle. The first comic and the direct inspiration for Predator 2. Tons of crossover and it's like reading an alternate universe version of Predator 2 where it keeps escalating and it goes even more OTT by the end.
Cold War. Predator versus Russians. They also introduce one new weapon: a giant fucking bear trap.
Race War. You REALLY can't do a comic like this one today. Very interesting premise: a Predator (armed with two gauntlets) hunts at a prison rife with racial tension. Very fun gory comic.
1718: a short comic but it goes over the origin of the flintlock pistol seen at the end of Predator 2.
Bad Blood. Insane schlock that I love. Great premise. Predators are flying by Earth transporting a prisoner. The prisoner is a criminal Predator who is also insane. Shit hits the fan and the thing escapes, killing everyone on board and partially cannibalizes them. It just so happens the ship crash lands in the forest hills of New Jersey while a bunch of mercs decide to kill some time and hunt this mofo down because the dumbass FBI can't help themselves. Plot twist: this Predator DOES NOT GIVE A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT A CODE OF HONOR. And this thing slaughters everything it fucking sees in hyper gory displays. It gets better when a cop Predator appears to fight the mofo. This is also the source of the idea in Predators (Predator 3) showing multiple races of Predators and that they do not fucking get along.
Kindred: One of my favorites. A guy's father is killed during a hunting trip and he's scarred for life by the experience. 20 years later, the same Predator comes back and this guy is working through some daddy issues. Plot twist: an active serial killer in the area learns about the Predator and worships it as a god. VERY good comic. I would call this a classic.
Hell and Hot Water: not as good but I still recommend it because of the premise. This one is set deep underwater as a special forces team hunts down the creature who is hunting obscure super predators of the deep ocean.
Hell Come A Walkin': Predator in the Civil War. That's all you need.
Captive: a one shot but worth looking at where it takes the usual premise of a corporation or government holding the Predator captive and shit hits the fan. Fun but short.
Bonus, Alien VS Predator comics that are worth a damn:
The first series.
Duel. This is the one that introduced the idea of a PredAlien hybrid.
Three World War.
Eternal. More of a Predator comic that just happens to have Aliens but it's really good. An ancient Mongolian or whateverthefuckheis guy is expelled from his village and lucks out by finding a crashed Predator ship. He uses the technology to become immortal and harvests Predator tech. Flash forward to our future and the Predator tech has been adopted by elite government assassins which attracts Predator attention. Meanwhile, the Mongolian dude has a few underlings work on the Predator ship and -surprise- Alien eggs are on board and hatch.
Edit: when it comes to the Versus comics, they're pretty much all bad. The only ones that are good are: the Judge Dredd ones. They got the writers of the Dredd comics to work on these and they're a ton of fun to read. The only other one I would recommend would be the first Batman VS Predator even though it rewrites the Predator as just an evil alien that kills anyone.
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@Almighty Kevin Yeah, give me the "I'm mad and will revenge rate" bullshit. You're just mad I didn't mention Herk Mondo.
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oh yeah, iirc in the early Dark Horse comics wasn't there something about when you've got a chestburster in you you're also farting out xeno spores before it comes out?
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That I'm not aware of. But there's another one called The Alien which has the Space Jockey (or Engineer) and it turns out they're evil and want to take over the world. It's a short but batshit comic where the president and androids board the Space Jockey's ship and murders all of them, but the president has a fake tooth that drips a liquid down his throat that spontaneously enrages a dormant Chestburster that hatches and kills the Space Jockey.
There's another one where a bunch of teenagers stumble upon a cave and find a dead Jockey and -surprise- we finally see the fucking Alien that emerged from that thing. Huge missed opportunity in Prometheus that we never formerly saw what a legit Alien/Engineer hybrid would look like (aside from video games and the comic I just mentioned).
Then there's Apocalypse: Destroying Angels which alludes to the idea that the Alien was a divine punishment sent by god (with the Space Jockey as a kind of courier) to punish mankind. Good thought-provoking comic.
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Speaking of Alien, I would recommend William Gibson's Alien 3, it got a audio drama version of it a few years ago with Michael Biehn and Lance Henriksen. It has some big issues mainly the air borne pathogen, but still has lot of good stuff in it and great hearing what could have been.
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I vaguely recall it from the first b/w series with Hicks and Newt, like, some rando in a future mall chestbursts or something?
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It wasn't from that. In that comic, a cult discovers the existence of the Alien and storm the government to willingly expose themselves to the eggs. Then the assholes go about their day until the chestbursting begins.
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I got hooked into Dark Horse's Alien comics via the Colonial Marines series (which had originally been intended to be a 12-issue maxi-series but was cut short at ten), what with the depiction of gear and the weird mutant human/Xeno hybrids brought about via people ingesting the "royal jelly" of an Alien queen, willingly or not.
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a day without Xeno-Zip is like a day without sunshine brother
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To divert from the Alien/Predator comic discussion, I caught this trailer and its wiki spoils the big twist. This is a reimagining of Dracula's Daughter and Giancarlo Esposito's character is either Dracula or works for him.
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No, there should be MORE Alien/Predator discussion! What's wrong with you?
I wanted to watch Predator when I was sick at home when I was 9 and asshole came back from the video store with this POS.
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And people thought that alien human hybrid of Ressurection was weird, imagine if this shit ended up on film somehow.
I mean, I love how crazy the expanded universe can get but even I will admit that nearly all of it would be retarded on film. Alien is pretty grounded all things considered, the alien's inner workings are surprisingly very tight and "realistic" in an "alien" way, fittingly. The tech doesnt challenge our suspension of disbelief too much and it clicks together.
So suddenly having this shit that wouldnt be out of place in a Roger Corman on film would be laughable