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AskeDead said:
I think the helicopter escape in Dawn is more optimistic. Our protagonists no doubt died in both movies either way, though.
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Not to pick on you (too much) but I think you weren't paying attention. Day literally ends with our protagonist and the 2 friends she made along the way on a desert island where she looks OPTIMISTICALLY to the future in her calendar... I think it's pretty obvious. I'm sorry that it didn't end with a musical number with rainbows and dolphins ecstatically dancing among the waves but FFS man.
 
BrunoMattei said:
Not to pick on you (too much) but I think you weren't paying attention. Day literally ends with our protagonist and the 2 friends she made along the way on a desert island where she looks OPTIMISTICALLY to the future in her calendar... I think it's pretty obvious. I'm sorry that it didn't end with a musical number with rainbows and dolphins ecstatically dancing among the waves but FFS man.
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That doesn't really discount what I said at all, though.
 
AskeDead said:
That doesn't really discount what I said at all, though.
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Then share us your vision. Show us the mind of an autistic person. How did the ending play out to you? Do you think they went through all that bullshit fighting through the zombie hordes, SAVING THEIR FRIENDS IN THE PROCESS, only just to go to an island and die? I'm curious.

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So I recently watched Twilight Zone the Movie and it's some of the most cringe shit Hollywood has ever shat out. It starts out well enough with Dan Ackroyd yucking it up with some other actor, but once the movie starts in earnest, the main protagonist turns out to be a disgruntled white man who goes to a bar to start ranting about black people moving into his neighborhood, a Jew taking his job and Asian people owning his bank. He then walks out of the bar in a fury and time travels to Nazi Germany where he's mistaken for a Jew and hunted down and shot at by the Nazis, which leads to him ending up falling out of a window where he time travels again to the Jim Crow era South, he's surrounded by hicks and Klansmen who mistook him for a black man and they're preparing to hang him and that's just about where I stopped watching. The whole thing is just some ironic punishment revenge fantasy you'd read out of a fanfiction because the guy went on a racist rant after losing his job. So the guy deserves to be terrorized, hunted and lynched because he said some mean words? I would ask if this is seriously how people think but we already know it's true.
 
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
So I recently watched Twilight Zone the Movie and it's some of the most cringe shit Hollywood has ever shat out. It starts out well enough with Dan Ackroyd yucking it up with some other actor, but once the movie starts in earnest, the main protagonist turns out to be a disgruntled white man who goes to a bar to start ranting about black people moving into his neighborhood, a Jew taking his job and Asian people owning his bank. He then walks out of the bar in a fury and time travels to Nazi Germany where he's mistaken for a Jew and hunted down and shot at by the Nazis, which leads to him ending up falling out of a window where he time travels again to the Jim Crow era South, he's surrounded by hicks and Klansmen who mistook him for a black man and they're preparing to hang him and that's just about where I stopped watching. The whole thing is just some ironic punishment revenge fantasy you'd read out of a fanfiction because the guy went on a racist rant after losing his job. So the guy deserves to be terrorized, hunted and lynched because he said some mean words? I would ask if this is seriously how people think but we already know it's true.
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Originally it was to end with the character finding redemption in saving two Vietnamese children during the Vietnam War but...

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Twilight Zone accident - Wikipedia

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So yeah. Objectively speaking, I like the John Landis segment despite everything that happened. The only segment that really sucks is the Spielberg one and the reason why it turned out the way it did is that Spielberg did not want to continue the project after the accident and decided instead of adapting a horror story from the show to adapt a more sweetly saccharine story.
 
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
So I recently watched Twilight Zone the Movie and it's some of the most cringe shit Hollywood has ever shat out. It starts out well enough with Dan Ackroyd yucking it up with some other actor, but once the movie starts in earnest, the main protagonist turns out to be a disgruntled white man who goes to a bar to start ranting about black people moving into his neighborhood, a Jew taking his job and Asian people owning his bank. He then walks out of the bar in a fury and time travels to Nazi Germany where he's mistaken for a Jew and hunted down and shot at by the Nazis, which leads to him ending up falling out of a window where he time travels again to the Jim Crow era South, he's surrounded by hicks and Klansmen who mistook him for a black man and they're preparing to hang him and that's just about where I stopped watching. The whole thing is just some ironic punishment revenge fantasy you'd read out of a fanfiction because the guy went on a racist rant after losing his job. So the guy deserves to be terrorized, hunted and lynched because he said some mean words? I would ask if this is seriously how people think but we already know it's true.
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iirc that segment was supposed to have a happy ending. It was cut short because the director accidentally killed the actor and some children while filming. Even though they were only Vietnamese children, it seriously hurt his career. His movie An American Werewolf in London is still one of the best ever though.
 
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
So I recently watched Twilight Zone the Movie and it's some of the most cringe shit Hollywood has ever shat out. It starts out well enough with Dan Ackroyd yucking it up with some other actor, but once the movie starts in earnest, the main protagonist turns out to be a disgruntled white man who goes to a bar to start ranting about black people moving into his neighborhood, a Jew taking his job and Asian people owning his bank. He then walks out of the bar in a fury and time travels to Nazi Germany where he's mistaken for a Jew and hunted down and shot at by the Nazis, which leads to him ending up falling out of a window where he time travels again to the Jim Crow era South, he's surrounded by hicks and Klansmen who mistook him for a black man and they're preparing to hang him and that's just about where I stopped watching. The whole thing is just some ironic punishment revenge fantasy you'd read out of a fanfiction because the guy went on a racist rant after losing his job. So the guy deserves to be terrorized, hunted and lynched because he said some mean words? I would ask if this is seriously how people think but we already know it's true.
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Well, one, the segments of the Twilight Zone movie are based on actual episodes of the original Twilight Zone and Rod Serling was very anti war and for civil right (that actually meant something in the 50s compared to today) but like others said the ending of that one got messed up because of the deaths that happened involving the helicopter. It's kind of amazing that it got finished at all.

Like @BrunoMattei said the Spielberg one is collectively seen as the weakest one because it's just dripping with his whimsy.

Calandrino said:
iirc that segment was supposed to have a happy ending. It was cut short because the director accidentally killed the actor and some children while filming. Even though they were only Vietnamese children, it seriously hurt his career. His movie An American Werewolf in London is still one of the best ever though.
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I liked his episodes in Master of Horror. That show could be hit or miss.
 
Vampirella said:
I liked his episodes in Master of Horror. That show could be hit or miss.
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I always find it funny that that's how his son Max got his foot in the door because his son wrote that episode. But if you visit Max's thread he swears up and down that he did not benefit from nepotism and made his own way in the industry.
 
I saw the film adaption of "The House with a Clock in Its Walls" mentioned and I have to admit, I did not care for it, it came off as a loud, clownish spectacle, and I admit to having been a fan of the original book (and the sequels and John Bellairs' other book series) which I read as a youth which maybe prejudiced me against the film. The book could be the source material for an at least decent adaption, but I don't see that happening.

I recently did a skim through of the book online, never forget the illustrations by Edward Gorey ( (who provided wraparound cover art and frontispieces for some of Bellairs' other books)

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BrunoMattei said:
I always find it funny that that's how his son Max got his foot in the door because his son wrote that episode. But if you visit Max's thread he swears up and down that he did not benefit from nepotism and made his own way in the industry.
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tbf, Deer Woman is better-written than what some industry vets were handing in for Masters of Horror. Very weird coincidence that it happened to be directed by his father but hey.

Commander X said:
I saw the film adaption of "The House with a Clock in Its Walls" mentioned and I have to admit, I did not care for it,
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I like seeing Kyle MacLachlan.
 
Calandrino said:
tbf, Deer Woman is better-written than what some industry vets were handing in for Masters of Horror. Very weird coincidence that it happened to be directed by his father but hey.
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The two Masters of Horror that I hated the most was the one with the lesbian bug woman and the one called Chocolate I think. It was just such a weird story that may have been better as a written short story then an episode of a TV show.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I don't see that at all. If anything it's the most optimistic of the original trilogy.
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The ending is the optimistic part, but the major part of the film has a very cynical view of humanity. Dawn plays around with consumerist fantasies (being locked inside a shopping mall) but obviously that's in aid of demonstrating the loneliness and emptiness of that fantasy, but that chunk of the film adds some levity regardless.
Day feels relentlessly oppressive and claustrophobic right until that helicopter escape happy ending, and living humans are just as much the danger to the protagonists as the zombies they're surrounded by both above and below ground. That's pretty fundamentally pessimistic.
 
Almighty Kevin said:
Day feels relentlessly oppressive and claustrophobic right until that helicopter escape happy ending, and living humans are just as much the danger to the protagonists as the zombies they're surrounded by both above and below ground. That's pretty fundamentally pessimistic.
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I never really got that. You could make the same argument with Dawn because the zombies are always outside the mall and then here comes the bikers that want what they got.

Edit: it's confirmed. Terrifier 3 is a Christmas movie.


Holy fuck.
 
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