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Se7en is scary to felix, he identifies as the victim of Gluttony, fed to death with oreo cake by a man with a serbian accent wearing a retarded Dog mask.
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I keep thinking about this while I'm sick, and I think Curtains may have been one of those many horror movies I saw at the video store as a kid that had an interesting cover to get you to rent it. I've found a lot of horror movies did that back in the day. Another big example would be Zombie Lake.Browsing through Tubi, I watched two 80s slashers that both developed a cult following in later years: Curtains and Graduation Day. I found Graduation Day utilized the mystery of who was the killer better along with the overall story. However, when a full reveal of the masked killer is shown at the halfway point, it eliminates a possible suspect when you look at the body type. Curtains had production issues that resulted in it being completed two years later. One of my main issues was that the lighting was so dark and it made seeing what was happening in night very difficult. Another was learning who the killer was. Basically it was a character you least expected and I think the issues behind-the-scenes may have been a factor. Probably the only memorable thing about Curtains is the poster.
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If you think about Se7en, it's almost a spiritual prequel to Saw.Of course it’s not just gore, the gore is secondary to the suspense and incredibly scary atmosphere that Se7en has. I don’t think know this is a complex one because yeah it isn’t technically a straight horror but it’s such a scary and bleak film it basically almost is one.
Ahh Fuck it @Internet War Criminal sorry for having to tag you but is Se7en a horror movie or not? I know it’s not strictly a straight ‘Horror’ movie but it has enough scary and dark thematic elements and gore to basically be horror. Tell these mofos also what they’re missing skipping Se7en.
I personally categorize it with what I get out of the movie. I can see something like Rosemary's Baby as a horror movie, not even because of the Santa's baby story, but the story of a woman having a difficult pregnancy and feeling abandoned when she's not listened to regardless of if her paranoia is justified or not. Yes there is some mystery with her uncovering the Satanic cult and the death of the young lady that lives with the cult, but it's focused on her feelings of fear and paranoia. That's some classic Gothic horror there, ( Gothic horror like Poe or The Turning of the Screw, not dress in black and hang out at the mall all day Goth) At the time the Satan thing was pushed because that was the in thing at the time, and I think not showing the baby was a smart move.If you think about Se7en, it's almost a spiritual prequel to Saw.
It's a mix of neo-noir and horror. One of the major reasons why it's wrongfully not seen as part of the Horror genre is because it was sold as "somber and serious" and "not like those shlocky horror movies" and something more high brow by critics and the Hollywood PR machine when horror as a category was seen in a far more negative light (horror = tits, machetes, bad acting, low budget).
As far as the argument that if it was horror there would be more emphasis on the kills, not what they were like after, that's ridiculous. That's like saying that the Hannibal series wasn't horror because usually you didn't see Hannibal's kills, just what he did to the victims after. Is Rosemary's Baby not horror because it's gore free? What about The Ring? The Conjuring? There's a huge long list of horror movies that are based entirely on ambiance and dread that do not feature any kind of kills or gore at all.
I think there are a bunch of movies in the early 90s that were sold as "thriller" but were really closer to horror. Silence of the Lambs is another great example of that.
Fucking called it, you make a perfect point about people being so anal about genre defining. Just because a film is mainly a Horror movie doesn’t mean it’s only a horror movie. Tons of movies can’t be easily categorised because they are so experimental or out there. The idea of a film being in only one genre is retarded because they’re just general tags to describe certain plot elements or themes associated with a work.If you think about Se7en, it's almost a spiritual prequel to Saw.
It's a mix of neo-noir and horror. One of the major reasons why it's wrongfully not seen as part of the Horror genre is because it was sold as "somber and serious" and "not like those shlocky horror movies" and something more high brow by critics and the Hollywood PR machine when horror as a category was seen in a far more negative light (horror = tits, machetes, bad acting, low budget).
As far as the argument that if it was horror there would be more emphasis on the kills, not what they were like after, that's ridiculous. That's like saying that the Hannibal series wasn't horror because usually you didn't see Hannibal's kills, just what he did to the victims after. Is Rosemary's Baby not horror because it's gore free? What about The Ring? The Conjuring? There's a huge long list of horror movies that are based entirely on ambiance and dread that do not feature any kind of kills or gore at all.
I think there are a bunch of movies in the early 90s that were sold as "thriller" but were really closer to horror. Silence of the Lambs is another great example of that.
How gory/rapey is it?Recently restored, a Japanese thriller that was never shown outside of it's nation of origin, from 1988 it's "Door", to be released on VOD 10/24 and a remastered BluRay via Third Window out on 10/30. There was a release via DVDLay, but without subs, which was a real pain in the butt.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x3eDovi7zxY
The film follows Yasuko (Keiko Takahasi) a housewife living in a high-rise apartment with her husband and young son. Annoyed by spam calls, mailers and pushy door-to-door salesmen, Yasuko slams the door on an overly pushy salesman’s finger when he tries to squeeze a flyer through her chained door. He leaves but the next day, her nightmare starts. Her overworked husband is going to be absent from home for three days, and the salesman isn't going to give up. What follows is about an hour of suspense like a blend of giallo and Hitchcock territory, followed by a bonkers final act.
For about an hour, the film is build-up and ratcheting up the suspense and thriller elements, as our now-obsessed salesman begins a campaign of intimdation against his target, once the third act arrives, Door really ups the ante as it leans more into horror and gore, including the overhead top-down shot which observes the beleagured housewife attempting to flee her stalker in the confines of her apartment, and it gets crazier after that, with some moments that had me honestly going "I did not see that one coming".How gory/rapey is it?
Well remember, Felix has diarrhea of the mouth and has been talking out of his ass.My God shut the fuck up already.
That's a good list. The Old Dark House is one of my favorites for Halloween, it just fits the season so well.Halfway through October, I've managed one movie/day... on average
1) The Killer Shrews (1959)
2) The Uncanny* (1979)
3) Vampyr* (1932)
4) There's Nothing Out There! (1991)
5) Deep Red* (1975)
6) The Babadook (2014)
7) Invisible Invaders (1959)
8 ) The Town That Dreaded Sundown (1976)
9) Hereditary (2018 )
10) The Old Dark House (1932)
11) Shadow of the Vampire (2000)
12) Pharaoh's Curse (1957)
13) Good Boy (2023)
14) Psycho Goreman (2020)
15) The Driller Killer (1979)
* rewatch
No real misses. I found Good Boy to be a quite based and redpilled film that satisfy most viewers who were intrigued by the trailer.
I love that movieShadow of the Vampire (2000)
I never got around to Old Dark House before because it's always tagged "comedy", which isn't exactly wrong, but it's not goofy or farcical and plays the darker parts straight. I really enjoyed it.That's a good list. The Old Dark House is one of my favorites for Halloween, it just fits the season so well.
Care to drop some spoilers for Good Boy. I want to know if it's worth the watch.
Thanks I'll give good boy a shot!I never got around to Old Dark House before because it's always tagged "comedy", which isn't exactly wrong, but it's not goofy or farcical and plays the darker parts straight. I really enjoyed it.
I hate to give too much away about Good Boy, but I'll briefly summarize the first half or so:
Our female hero goes out on a Tinder date with Chad, is smitten, goes home with him... only to discover the next morning that Frank the Fursuit Dog is living with him. Note that Frank is full nonverbal dog-LARP-mode all the time, not a gay furry fuckslave. She nopes out and heads home with the intention of never seeing him again.
Afterwards, she shows her friend pictures of Chad, who recognizes him as a famous millionaire heir, and assures her that this guy is so far out of her league that she's crazy not to stick with him. After watching some internet videos explaining the concept of puppy play and how not-insane it is, she decides to give Chad another chance.
Shortly thereafter, Chad has a fun idea: why not have a little weekend getaway in an isolated cabin in the woods? And also they kick their smart phone addictions for the weekend? That is, she gives him her phone and he hides it so she has no way of contacting the outside world.
From that point on, it kind of writes itself.
Dark movie despite having very little explicit content, not very long (~80 minutes I think), decidedly un-woke. Enthusiasticfrom me.
Oh that does sound interesting, and I'm glad you enjoyed The Old Dark House.I never got around to Old Dark House before because it's always tagged "comedy", which isn't exactly wrong, but it's not goofy or farcical and plays the darker parts straight. I really enjoyed it.
I hate to give too much away about Good Boy, but I'll briefly summarize the first half or so:
Our female hero goes out on a Tinder date with Chad, is smitten, goes home with him... only to discover the next morning that Frank the Fursuit Dog is living with him. Note that Frank is full nonverbal dog-LARP-mode all the time, not a gay furry fuckslave. She nopes out and heads home with the intention of never seeing him again.
Afterwards, she shows her friend pictures of Chad, who recognizes him as a famous millionaire heir, and assures her that this guy is so far out of her league that she's crazy not to stick with him. After watching some internet videos explaining the concept of puppy play and how not-insane it is, she decides to give Chad another chance.
Shortly thereafter, Chad has a fun idea: why not have a little weekend getaway in an isolated cabin in the woods? And also they kick their smart phone addictions for the weekend? That is, she gives him her phone and he hides it so she has no way of contacting the outside world.
From that point on, it kind of writes itself.
Dark movie despite having very little explicit content, not very long (~80 minutes I think), decidedly un-woke. Enthusiasticfrom me.
14) Psycho Goreman (2020)
The cinematography of Jordan Peele's movies are really good, but the writing for these movies are very shitty, having to use "le white people bad" as the main messages of his movies. This is exactly why I cannot stand his movies.i think Get Out was a good film despite being a gay allegory
The kill count just announced that the next kill count is gonna be on a fucking tf2 machinima. I really hate James and I cannot express this enough. If I had the resources, I'd slap his belly until it bleeds for the damage he causes to the horror community.