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Slumber Party Massacre -> Sorority House Massacre 2 -> Hard to Die
There's probably not like 50 though, I bet nobody could name 50
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Well fuck...
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Years ago I found Ebola Syndrome on VHS at a sleazy flea market and its been a favorite ever since. "Trash epic" really is a pretty accurate description - it's this awesomely weird hybrid crime/splatter film where the protagonist (whose actor is so goddamn good at playing a total bastard) travels across multiple countries doing the most hilariously evil shit you could ever think of. Second the high recommendation.
In terms of movies that meet the remake, a spiritual sequel, and a parody of the original criteria - the Human Centipede sequels sort of fit.
HC2 - is about a fanboy of the first movie trying to crudely recreate it in a gross warehouse. There's a meta element where the first movie was criticized as a plotless series of gross-outs despite being actually pretty tame and similar story-wise to movies like Re-Animator. HC2 though is just a weird dude making an almost plotless series of extreme gross-outs.
HC3 - is about the human centipede idea being picked up by a US prison run by an insane cannibal warden. The meta element in this one is that the prior two movies are watched by the characters (and considered terrible) but serve as the inspiration for making a human centipede as a replacement for normal incarceration. The director, Tom Six, also plays himself and is so disgusted at what his movies inspire that he vomits all over himself and literally runs out of the movie.
All three are enjoyable trash (the second one probably being the weakest). Hack critics mostly just wrote them off out of hand.
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I used to like Untold Story AKA Bunman more because the violence was done in pure seriousness which is in contrast to the attempts at comedy from the detectives. The whole bits with the cops reminded me of Last House on the Left where it kept intercutting this horrifically brutal sequence of rape and murder with two bumbling retards who looks like rejects from The Andy Griffith Show. But I've come to like Ebola Syndrome because -it knows what it is- and the tone is 100% consistent from scene to scene.
Funny, I like Human Centipede 2 more. I didn't think much of the 1st or 3rd film. 3rd film was really bad. The director is doing another movie about a group of women who get off on human suffering but it still hasn't been released anywhere.
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Gremlins 2 springs to mind.
And I would say The Exorcist 2, which deserves another award for turning around again for Exorcist 3, and then going off road on multiple children's tricycles for all the prequels and sequels after that.
And I would say The Exorcist 2, which deserves another award for turning around again for Exorcist 3, and then going off road on multiple children's tricycles for all the prequels and sequels after that.
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Hong Kong CAT III is my favorite subgenreI just picked up a blu ray of Centipede Horror which was a fun lil CAT III gong tau flick but it didn't live up to it's extremely gross reputation. Not Boxer's Omen level good but I enjoy any Hong Kong black magic movie.
Now Seeding of a Ghost, that's a wild ride I would highly recommend.
Pretty much every Hong Kong film has random comedy scenes in it no matter how serious the subject matter. I think even Men Behind the Sun and Black Sun Nanking Massacre have stupid jokey scenes in them.
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It's a good sub-genre. A real shame that the handover happened that robbed us of all the fun stuff we could have had in the future.
I don't know about those two flicks having comedy scenes. The closest you get to that is Shiro Ishii drinking another guy's piss but I don't think that was supposed to be funny as just demonstrating how he was fanatical and 100% committed to the cause. Even Mou's other infamous film Lost Souls (which along with Black Sun and Man Behind the Sun kind of completes a trilogy of human suffering by this director) didn't have any comedy bits.
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I watched Something in the Dirt today from the makers of one of my favorite movies of all time (Resolution), and to me it's a fucking 10/10, knock it out of the park great movie, not just horror but as a regular movie. It's very niche, though, so if you don't enjoy their style (Resolution, The Endless, Synchronic) but yeah if you don't and you're a faggot it's probably more of an 8/10 or you're going to complain its boring with no tits and no violence mostly just two guys talking into a camera indie mumbleshit or whatever.
So much better than Synchronic, too. Looks like a smaller budget and smaller crew is the best way to contain them and make them make better movies.
It's one of those movies you keep thinking about once it's done, and want to watch it right away again now knowing what happens (and especially what doesn't, and what might have, and what might not).
Warning: this one is far more of a sci-fi and mindfuck that it is pure horror though
So much better than Synchronic, too. Looks like a smaller budget and smaller crew is the best way to contain them and make them make better movies.
It's one of those movies you keep thinking about once it's done, and want to watch it right away again now knowing what happens (and especially what doesn't, and what might have, and what might not).
Warning: this one is far more of a sci-fi and mindfuck that it is pure horror though
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>Saw 1 - Interesting movie with a unique concept, and some fun twists. Its budget really shows, but they're creative enough to make a decent movie despite it.
Saw 2- A horrible movie that's entire plot Is just "grrrrrrrrrrr angry cop rages and throws a tard fit while Le evil mastermind bends him to his will through psychological games." Bad movie overall.
Saw 3- An decent follow up to some of the plot they established in 2, certainly a better movie over all than 2. Was a bit "twist" happy at the end for my liking. Overall a decent movie.
I'll have to say who ever came up with these movies is some twisted sadistic piece of work, especially the 3rd one. It's like an edgy middle schoolers take on morality amplified to the highest degree. I can just imagine some edgy dimwits taking this shit seriously, and really larping with it, like jokers larpers, but worse.
Plan on watching the rest, will report back.
Saw 2- A horrible movie that's entire plot Is just "grrrrrrrrrrr angry cop rages and throws a tard fit while Le evil mastermind bends him to his will through psychological games." Bad movie overall.
Saw 3- An decent follow up to some of the plot they established in 2, certainly a better movie over all than 2. Was a bit "twist" happy at the end for my liking. Overall a decent movie.
I'll have to say who ever came up with these movies is some twisted sadistic piece of work, especially the 3rd one. It's like an edgy middle schoolers take on morality amplified to the highest degree. I can just imagine some edgy dimwits taking this shit seriously, and really larping with it, like jokers larpers, but worse.
Plan on watching the rest, will report back.
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All the saw movies are great in their own ways, you just have to realize that the traps are the main character, and then you don't have to worry about bad characters or people tard raging.
Also the second one has the needle pit which is fucking great.
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I kind of got that impression, kind of like the deaths in final destination. However the traps in 2 are almost all mid af, and have a really short lived screen time, so that also contributes to my disappointment with the film.
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Yeah people generally agree that the weakest movies in the entire series are 2 and Jigsaw... (Spiral is not a Saw movie and never will be.)
The problem with 2 is that it didn't fully embrace what it was unlike 3, and was kind of still trying to be dramatic and serious like the first movie was. The Friday the 13th Part II problem. A shitton of sequel in horror have that problem, really.
Also, Jigsaw got shit on because of its plot twist, which I'm not gonna spoil for you, but it's a really good movie on it's own imo and if you don't have any preconceived notions about it when you go in you're going to enjoy yourself.
Some people also give 6 & 7 shit but imo they are still really fun.
Saw might be my second favorite horror series about 5 movies after Friday the 13th. I think they're all really enjoyable and really rewatchable, and if you ever rewatch Saw II later on after having seen everything I think you'll like it a whole lot more than you did the first time. That's what happened to pretty much everyone.
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Saw 4 - Aside from 2 probably the worst one I've seen so far. While I enjoyed the main character(le black swat man) it ran into the same problem as 2, the traps were too short lived, and the backstories to the victims were kind of meh. Wasn't a huge fan of the twist at the end either as it made it kind of disorienting from a timeline perspective. (Also Angry cop dies )
Saw 5 - For whatever reason the odd numbered saw films are the best, 5 was an excellent movie imo. Not on par with 3 or the original, but still fantastic. The traps, and cast of characters tasked with completing them as a group were great, and the twist regarding them while pretty obvious was still fun. The plot outside of the people in the games was actually pretty good, really enjoyed the detective that occupied the central role of that portion of the movie.
Saw 6 - Was ok, the main game was interesting, and the conceit behind the selection of the contestants was cool. The plotline outside of the game was decent too, not as good as 5's but still good enough to keep your attention.
Gonna finish the last 2 films tomorrow hopefully.
Current rankings 1>3>5>6>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2
) Saw 5 - For whatever reason the odd numbered saw films are the best, 5 was an excellent movie imo. Not on par with 3 or the original, but still fantastic. The traps, and cast of characters tasked with completing them as a group were great, and the twist regarding them while pretty obvious was still fun. The plot outside of the people in the games was actually pretty good, really enjoyed the detective that occupied the central role of that portion of the movie.
Saw 6 - Was ok, the main game was interesting, and the conceit behind the selection of the contestants was cool. The plotline outside of the game was decent too, not as good as 5's but still good enough to keep your attention.
Gonna finish the last 2 films tomorrow hopefully.
Current rankings 1>3>5>6>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2
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Saw 7- A nice conclusion to the series, I enjoyed the twist at the end because it answered some questions I had about the series, and brought back a character that we hadn't seen since the 1st movie. I'll have to say however that the main detective in this film was straight assssssssssssssss, like legit dog shit acting on his part. Complete inverse of 2's main character, instead of being overly dramatic and rage filled the detective show's zero emotion through the entire film. It was almost as if they took one of the lifeless corpses from the games and gave it a role. The conceit behind the game was decent, and the traps ok, Otherwise a good film, and wraps up the franchise neatly.
Jigsaw- Not sure why @Internet War Criminal you said people disliked the twist at the end, thought it was one of the better one's personally, and completely fit the general twist framework they'd established in previous films. Was kind of eh on the detective portion of the film to begin with, but it saved itself with the ending. The game setup was probably my favorite type, that being multiple people faced with a series of traps. The traps were well thought out, and the characters in the game had decent back stories. All and all a good movie, and probably the only one besides the first, and maybe the second that you could watch as a standalone film and have it make some sense.
As a whole the series is great, and after 2 starts to feel like more of a tv show than a film franchise, the plots become so interconnected and self referential that divorced from context the films might be borderline unwatchable, but that's also what give's it some of its charm. Some might call the plots formulaic, and they certainly are to some degree, but at least for me they were always inventive enough with the twists that the overarching plot stayed engaging. One thing I didn't like about the series as it progressed was that they had a propensity to make traps incredibly short, I don't necessarily mean screen time short, I mean the game only gave contestants a limited amount of time(often only 60 seconds). This to me somewhat ruined the horror of the traps, there was no agonizing decision to be made, just a split second guttural response. If the conceit behind the whole game was that they were supposed to "learn" something then maybe they should've been left to sit with their actions for longer than a minute. Ironically the short games would've been best suited for those who "didn't value life" which was a more frequent victim archetype earlier in the franchise, but these were never the people tested with short traps.
Final rankings 1>3>5>6>7>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2 Jigsaw was its own thing so I'm not going to include it in the ranks.
Jigsaw- Not sure why @Internet War Criminal you said people disliked the twist at the end, thought it was one of the better one's personally, and completely fit the general twist framework they'd established in previous films. Was kind of eh on the detective portion of the film to begin with, but it saved itself with the ending. The game setup was probably my favorite type, that being multiple people faced with a series of traps. The traps were well thought out, and the characters in the game had decent back stories. All and all a good movie, and probably the only one besides the first, and maybe the second that you could watch as a standalone film and have it make some sense.
As a whole the series is great, and after 2 starts to feel like more of a tv show than a film franchise, the plots become so interconnected and self referential that divorced from context the films might be borderline unwatchable, but that's also what give's it some of its charm. Some might call the plots formulaic, and they certainly are to some degree, but at least for me they were always inventive enough with the twists that the overarching plot stayed engaging. One thing I didn't like about the series as it progressed was that they had a propensity to make traps incredibly short, I don't necessarily mean screen time short, I mean the game only gave contestants a limited amount of time(often only 60 seconds). This to me somewhat ruined the horror of the traps, there was no agonizing decision to be made, just a split second guttural response. If the conceit behind the whole game was that they were supposed to "learn" something then maybe they should've been left to sit with their actions for longer than a minute. Ironically the short games would've been best suited for those who "didn't value life" which was a more frequent victim archetype earlier in the franchise, but these were never the people tested with short traps.
Final rankings 1>3>5>6>7>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2 Jigsaw was its own thing so I'm not going to include it in the ranks.
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I saw Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey, to no one's shock it is a shit horror movie. But it is honestly terrible since it tries its best to be edgy yet it's just a generic horror movie. The acting is obnoxious and everyone in the movie is completely stupid. It's like the director just put every terrible horror trope in one movie and used a popular name to get people to see it. It gets worse with how the director wants to make a "Public Domain Cinematic Universe" because he has no god damn imagination.
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From what I hear, it’s the same “generic horror movie plot” movie, just with a thin Winnie the Pooh veneer on it. Take away the opening animation and it could have been anything with a few name and costume changes.
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Yeah it feels like it could easily be a Hillbilly Halloween movie. It's such an unoriginal soulless mess and if it was a campy movie, I would've been more forgiving of it.
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Here's something I think about often. What movies have you guys seen where the premise, or maybe just the monster/ghost/demon was actually decent or even good, but just trapped in a terrible script? Not counting bad sequels to good franchises, of course.
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Yeah I don't know why people shat so much on it from the fact that 3D is kind of a gimmick, I think it had more to do with Saw fatigue, seven movies over seven years is a lot in a way. I really wish I'd watched it in 3D in cinema it was probably fucking awesome ngl
I think the reason why people were so harsh on it is the reverse of why they had been so harsh on Saw VII, after so many years without a movie, I think there was a lot of expectations and, well, it wasn't what people were expecting so they bitched about it. As I said, I personally really liked VII and Jigsaw, definitely more than either 2 or 6, but 2 is still pretty watchable. If you ever rewatch the series in the future I'm sure you'll end up having a more positive opinion of it
That's, like, half or more of horror movies or more, bro.