Culture ‘Hell on earth’: Men share why they avoid singles nights - Men in our community shared candid accounts of why singles nights hold little appeal for them, citing fear of public rejection, dating fatigue and a preference for more organic ways of meeting partners

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Men in our community shared candid accounts of why singles nights hold little appeal for them, citing fear of public rejection, dating fatigue and a preference for more organic ways of meeting partners​

Monday 02 March 2026 09:08 EST
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Olivia Petter’s report on the challenges of getting men to attend singles nights prompted a flood of responses from male readers sharing their own experiences of dating.

Rather than rejecting the premise outright, many used the comments to explain why events like these hold little appeal for them personally.

A recurring theme was discomfort with structured, high-pressure formats such as speed dating, which several described as “forced”, “synthetic” or akin to a job interview.

Men spoke about feeling exposed in environments where rejection plays out publicly, arguing that the expectation to be instantly charming, funny and confident creates an uneven dynamic. Some said they preferred meeting partners organically – through friends, shared hobbies, travel or everyday life – where connection develops more naturally and without an audience.

Others reflected more broadly on modern dating. A number of commenters said they had opted out of formal dating altogether, citing exhaustion with apps, perceived imbalances in effort, or a sense that expectations have become transactional and over-analysed.

Here’s what you had to say:

Men shoulder most of the effort in dating

As a single man who has largely given up on dating, articles like this complaining about men while making out that women are great sum up why.

I’m expected to put the vast majority of effort into dating. I take the risk of rejection in doing the asking out, I arrange the date, usually carry the conversation, frequently am expected to pay, then this process repeats for future dates. The majority of women I met seemed to think turning up was all that’s required for me to ‘woo’ them. In return, I’ve had women ghost, cancel last minute after I’ve paid for tickets, complain about the venue, say things like I should be grateful they turned up at all after they arrived almost an hour late (extreme lateness was very common, often followed by a dismissive comment about how I should put up with it because I’m a man).

Clearly there are issues women experience too, but the big difference from my perspective is effort. Women expect everything to be done for them and, other than their appearance, don’t invest much in the early dating stages. I’ve never once had a woman ‘bound right up’ and ask me out, never had a woman pay, never felt like they were making the effort to keep me entertained, never had them suggest or arrange a date. They frequently complain about men’s failings yet seem to have zero awareness of their own.

I’m in my 40s now, so I’m not that bothered about sex or flings. I have good friends and enough going on that I don't want to waste time on something that just isn't enjoyable. If the other person was making a similar level of effort, then I may feel differently. The level of entitlement is ridiculous though – it frequently felt like dealing with teenagers, unable to show any initiative or reciprocation.

Andy

Men are used to being rejected

Attending an event like this is a higher risk for men. Social vulnerability is something men are culturally punished for showing. Men are used to being rejected; women are often the ones rejecting. Experiencing this again, but with an audience, can't be that tempting.

This type of event also favours verbal fluency, emotional expressiveness, and social confidence – traits that suit how the average woman socialises better than men. You describe this as men suffering from pride or a lack of motivation, completely ignoring that the format itself is flawed.

If you want something more than that, involve some sort of activity. Add some sort of competition with built-in conversation starters. A quiz? Cooking? Cocktail-making competition? Why not a go-kart event? A great night regardless of the social outcome.

My two best dates were a trip to IKEA and one where that girl showed me some great biking paths in the forest. The latter one is now my wife.

Daniel

Many of us are socially awkward

I met the women I ended up marrying on a backpacking trip: she was camping with three other women and I was by myself. No force on earth could have compelled me to enter an event such as the writer describes. Of course, I was (and am) socially awkward – but so are so many of us.

I can't recall how my children met their partners, but we had one recent success. Through my wife's friend, we got to know a man who had been a friend of one of her children. He seemed like a nice guy with no partner. But he was VERY quiet. Our daughters had a female friend who had no partner and who they described as being really nice, so we old folks went into action. Our daughters approached their friend, who sent them a list of questions – "Does he have kids? Has he been married? Does he smoke? Does he have a job?" – which they passed on to us to get the answers. Things worked out. Yay! Matchmaking lives!

soccerdad

Dates are like job interviews

I wonder if the psychology of the modern dating game just appeals more to women than men?

I'm in my early fifties now. In my teens, people were either very much in a relationship or not; the idea of going on a date with someone to see if you wanted a relationship was something alien we saw on American television. By my thirties, I'd largely opted out of the whole thing.

The idea of going on a date which was effectively a job interview seemed a very unappealing way of spending an evening when there was the alternative of doing something I enjoyed. If I met somebody that way, well and good; if not, it didn't matter – I was out having fun, doing things I wanted to do. I met women who were attracted to me and I not them, women to whom I was attracted and they not me, and on it went.

Eventually I met the woman who is now my wife quite by accident, through friends.

I did once, for a magazine article I agreed to write, go to a speed-dating night. It was hell on earth for me – I hated it. I dabbled very briefly with internet dating as well, but never went on a date because I never saw anyone I thought would be a match. It all felt pointless.

PadraigMahone

Let things happen naturally

It was the same decades ago. I once got asked to join a speed-dating night as there weren't enough men. I'd just had a bad accident, so I explained to the organiser that I was in no fit state to go looking for a date; I'd come just for the fun of it.

I had to fill in a form where you had to describe yourself in three words. Assuming I would get no dates whatsoever, I wrote "toothless, not heartless." Then I sat down with each girl and explained I was here just for fun – because, well, look at the state of me.

To my surprise, every single girl put me top of their list – and even the girl organising the event asked me out. The other guys didn't get a look in because they were trying to be "sensitive, caring, and kind" like they had written down –and this went absolutely nowhere.

There's a serious point here – men don't like dating events because they feel forced and synthetic. The format itself runs against the grain of how many men are wired to court. Being lined up for inspection, filling in forms, rotating on a timer – not just uncomfortable, but actively undermines the qualities that tend to make men attractive in the first place: spontaneity, confidence, a bit of mystery. Hard to be mysterious when you're wearing a name badge. It doesn't feel particularly "blokey" to offer yourself out for selection.

Dating events aren't struggling because men are emotionally stunted or commitment-averse – they're failing because the environment selects against natural confidence and rewards a kind of performed sensitivity that most people, including the women attending, can smell from a mile off.

Far better to go, have some fun, and let things happen naturally – even when you're least expecting it!

Sneaker

I’d head to an event over an app

I have to say that for someone who hasn't been dating for 30 years, this goes against what I would have expected – i.e., men outnumbering women 15:1 rather than the other way round.

If I ever found myself dating again, I'd have thought I'd head to an event like this long before I'd join an app, to be honest. But maybe that's just me.

GoodGriefCharlieBrown

Some of the comments have been edited for this article for brevity and clarity.
 
Sure you can't change your height or dick size but you can earn six figures and have washboard abs. Everything else is just excuse and if you say its unfair you are a fat broke landwhale that I would not have sex with. :ratface:
If you want a 6 figure man, you must be a 6 figure worth woman. And it goes both ways

If you want a greek statue bodied man with a full wallet, you'll need to get that bmi down
 
Bitch, back before 1970, if you got pregnant out of wedlock, the men of our society would lock you away from everyone else. Your fat female ass had zero say in the matter. Here is the result of asking Google AI “what did we used to do with pregnant women out of wedlock”:
You are a retard of unbelievable proportions. Women were enforcing this shit just as men. Take a look at honor killings and immigrants rape gangs the women in those communities support it just as much as the men and even cover it up because filthy kuffars. The reason why it went away it was because both men and women decided its not good. Its that simple. You faggots act like men weren't on the forefront of free love, womens righrs and why do you involve the government in your relationship maan.
 
A lot of this discourse seems really especially raped in the Anglosphere, where your form of urbanism led to mass-atomization and adoption of dating apps and superficial dating culture, paired with an epidemic of obesity and poor mental and physical health caused by all the poisons the KIKES are putting in your food supply.

Just absolutely oneshotted nations.
 
If you want a 6 figure man, you must be a 6 figure worth woman. And it goes both ways

If you want a greek statue bodied man with a full wallet, you'll need to get that bmi down
Hey bro my peace and tranquility can be disturbed by Chad and is worthy of chad anything unclear pal?
 
A lot of this discourse seems really especially raped in the Anglosphere, where your form of urbanism led to mass-atomization and adoption of dating apps and superficial dating culture, paired with an epidemic of obesity and poor mental and physical health caused by all the poisons the KIKES are putting in your food supply.

Just absolutely oneshotted nations.
Oh no, it’s global now. Also a side note, I’ve met a lot of height queens. (Women that only care about height).
 
Absolutely horrifying notion not gonna lie, if there's one job I'd pass on in favor of scrubbing septic tanks at a leper colony without a hazmat suit on - it's sales. It's so over for us specialist types :lol::lol::lol:
Hell for me would be cold-calling prospective life insurance customers.... forever.

Oh no, it’s global now. Also a side note, I’ve met a lot of height queens. (Women that only care about height).
That was my exit ramp out of dating, being short.

Women will try to let you down easy to your face, but, rare is the one who doesn't have a "you must be THIS tall to ride" sign in her pocket.

And I don't blame them, I mean, that's what nature selected for. That makes me a last 1/3 option. I understood that pretty quick.

The issue is, like you said, while guys like me would've eventually been picked up when all the better options were expended in earlier times?

With the market being global now? Women will resist having to settle for less.
 
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You are a retard of unbelievable proportions. Women were enforcing this shit just as men.
So if you lived in Ontario from 1893 to 1942, and got caught whoring or got knocked up out of wedlock or were just an insufferable cunt in general, you would be arrested and a judge could decide to lock you in an asylum for five years and you weren’t allowed to appeal.


How many of the police officers arresting you and the judges sending you away do you think were women between 1893 and 1942?

Dumb fat bitch.
 
Oh no, it’s global now.
I've lived in a couple countries in asia that are supposedly notorious for being havens of gold-diggers - namely SG and HK and it kinda seemed like the local guys were all doing fine with dating and could just go to the clubs or bars and find girls that want to mess around with them, and then have relationships come from just like continually talking to girls they fucked.

Same with southern Europe - lived in Italy for a while and it seemed like a lot of people met when they went out drinking and formed relationships that way, usually just because they lived near eachother and shacked up out of some kinda sense of familiarity at first before falling in Capital-L Love.
Meanwhile, anglos are very puritanical about sex and alcohol and have these ideas like "fucking while drunk is automatically rape" and I've literally seen anglos self-police and press couples walking away from clubs together lmao(seen in Yookay) - pair that with negro-invasion unhealthy-living hyper-atomized countries and living conditions and you've got this recipe for cold dating culture and unchecked hypergamy
 
That's the key ingredient she's leaving out in her kvetching - none of these men gave her pussytingles within the first 12 nanoseconds of looking at them. Please consult the helpful illustration below:
This applies to men too though, fact is people will overlook or ignore redflags if the person doing them is attractive enough
 
I'm not gonna lie, I went to one. I went in expecting a shitshow and had zero expectations, no desperation or anything and just chatted. Hearing someone have a horrid time at that a couple years prior really tempered my expectations.

Made my picks after, and everyone who put responses picked me. Then the site running the whole thing went down so nobody else could put in responses. Learned from one of the women there that I dated afterwards that I got picked as choice number 1 by all the women there, as they all chatted to each other after the event was done.

Didn't work out in the end. Being in your 20s to women in their mid-late 30s (this really surprised me, thankfully genuinely mistaking a woman to be 10 years younger than she actually is will always be a huge compliment to her) is seemingly a non-starter.
 
Are we supposed to just buy the underlying assumption that there are tons of women at these events? I've been to three (I brought a lady friend) and all were sausage fests.
 
Are we supposed to just buy the underlying assumption that there are tons of women at these events? I've been to three (I brought a lady friend) and all were sausage fests.
Depends on how they set up the events. Some I've heard open up ticket spaces for men when women book to get a perfect or almost perfect ratio (assuming everyone turns up). That's how they try to do it nowadays, that's what the one I went to did, in fact.

Even then I'd say you're better off just finding random pub/club meets, or at various hobby/club/group things.
 
Are we supposed to just buy the underlying assumption that there are tons of women at these events? I've been to three (I brought a lady friend) and all were sausage fests.
Tons doesn't refer to the number of women, but to their total weight.
 
I always enjoy threads and articles like these. They're always full of the same exact shit.

Men who've been married for at least 10 years giving out of touch advice to single men 20 years younger.
Women giving advice that boils down to "be exactly what a woman want ahead of time, otherwise everything you do is wrong or creepy".
And then both genders giving the most retarded advice of all. Don't be an average person.

You need to be wealthy, a well respected member of your community, outgoing with many interesting hobbies that involve groups of people, be a talented musician or artist(not just someone who plays an instrument or paints for fun in their room, you need be playing in front of an audience or selling your work), have a well paying job in a respected company you hold a high position in or be a self employed McMillionaire, be a cop(but ACAB) be in the military and pray to God Jodie never makes a visit etc

Looking for dating advice online is fucking stupid and is, imo, the actual cause for all this blackpilled bullshit. It's just a bunch of faggots who've been out of the game for decades, whores of both genders, and jaded spinsters.
 
I always enjoy threads and articles like these. They're always full of the same exact shit.

Men who've been married for at least 10 years giving out of touch advice to single men 20 years younger.
Women giving advice that boils down to "be exactly what a woman want ahead of time, otherwise everything you do is wrong or creepy".
And then both genders giving the most retarded advice of all. Don't be an average person.

You need to be wealthy, a well respected member of your community, outgoing with many interesting hobbies that involve groups of people, be a talented musician or artist(not just someone who plays an instrument or paints for fun in their room, you need be playing in front of an audience or selling your work), have a well paying job in a respected company you hold a high position in or be a self employed McMillionaire, be a cop(but ACAB) be in the military and pray to God Jodie never makes a visit etc

Looking for dating advice online is fucking stupid and is, imo, the actual cause for all this blackpilled bullshit. It's just a bunch of faggots who've been out of the game for decades, whores of both genders, and jaded spinsters.
You forgot Zoomer incels crying about how they've tried nothing and are all out of ideas, then going on a negrate rampage against anybody who tries to help them stop being depressed losers who masturbate into a crusty sock. :shit-eating:

I'm not paying you for excuses, FAGGOTS, I'm paying for results.
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Feminists and women give such awful dating "advice" that I can not help but think that it's inherently malicious. It's not just bad advice, it's advice that's liable to get you in genuine trouble as well.
 
Feminists and women give such awful dating "advice" that I can not help but think that it's inherently malicious. It's not just bad advice, it's advice that's liable to get you in genuine trouble as well.
Women give great dating advice for guys, they're already attracted too.
 
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