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Men in our community shared candid accounts of why singles nights hold little appeal for them, citing fear of public rejection, dating fatigue and a preference for more organic ways of meeting partners​

Monday 02 March 2026 09:08 EST
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Olivia Petter’s report on the challenges of getting men to attend singles nights prompted a flood of responses from male readers sharing their own experiences of dating.

Rather than rejecting the premise outright, many used the comments to explain why events like these hold little appeal for them personally.

A recurring theme was discomfort with structured, high-pressure formats such as speed dating, which several described as “forced”, “synthetic” or akin to a job interview.

Men spoke about feeling exposed in environments where rejection plays out publicly, arguing that the expectation to be instantly charming, funny and confident creates an uneven dynamic. Some said they preferred meeting partners organically – through friends, shared hobbies, travel or everyday life – where connection develops more naturally and without an audience.

Others reflected more broadly on modern dating. A number of commenters said they had opted out of formal dating altogether, citing exhaustion with apps, perceived imbalances in effort, or a sense that expectations have become transactional and over-analysed.

Here’s what you had to say:

Men shoulder most of the effort in dating

As a single man who has largely given up on dating, articles like this complaining about men while making out that women are great sum up why.

I’m expected to put the vast majority of effort into dating. I take the risk of rejection in doing the asking out, I arrange the date, usually carry the conversation, frequently am expected to pay, then this process repeats for future dates. The majority of women I met seemed to think turning up was all that’s required for me to ‘woo’ them. In return, I’ve had women ghost, cancel last minute after I’ve paid for tickets, complain about the venue, say things like I should be grateful they turned up at all after they arrived almost an hour late (extreme lateness was very common, often followed by a dismissive comment about how I should put up with it because I’m a man).

Clearly there are issues women experience too, but the big difference from my perspective is effort. Women expect everything to be done for them and, other than their appearance, don’t invest much in the early dating stages. I’ve never once had a woman ‘bound right up’ and ask me out, never had a woman pay, never felt like they were making the effort to keep me entertained, never had them suggest or arrange a date. They frequently complain about men’s failings yet seem to have zero awareness of their own.

I’m in my 40s now, so I’m not that bothered about sex or flings. I have good friends and enough going on that I don't want to waste time on something that just isn't enjoyable. If the other person was making a similar level of effort, then I may feel differently. The level of entitlement is ridiculous though – it frequently felt like dealing with teenagers, unable to show any initiative or reciprocation.

Andy

Men are used to being rejected

Attending an event like this is a higher risk for men. Social vulnerability is something men are culturally punished for showing. Men are used to being rejected; women are often the ones rejecting. Experiencing this again, but with an audience, can't be that tempting.

This type of event also favours verbal fluency, emotional expressiveness, and social confidence – traits that suit how the average woman socialises better than men. You describe this as men suffering from pride or a lack of motivation, completely ignoring that the format itself is flawed.

If you want something more than that, involve some sort of activity. Add some sort of competition with built-in conversation starters. A quiz? Cooking? Cocktail-making competition? Why not a go-kart event? A great night regardless of the social outcome.

My two best dates were a trip to IKEA and one where that girl showed me some great biking paths in the forest. The latter one is now my wife.

Daniel

Many of us are socially awkward

I met the women I ended up marrying on a backpacking trip: she was camping with three other women and I was by myself. No force on earth could have compelled me to enter an event such as the writer describes. Of course, I was (and am) socially awkward – but so are so many of us.

I can't recall how my children met their partners, but we had one recent success. Through my wife's friend, we got to know a man who had been a friend of one of her children. He seemed like a nice guy with no partner. But he was VERY quiet. Our daughters had a female friend who had no partner and who they described as being really nice, so we old folks went into action. Our daughters approached their friend, who sent them a list of questions – "Does he have kids? Has he been married? Does he smoke? Does he have a job?" – which they passed on to us to get the answers. Things worked out. Yay! Matchmaking lives!

soccerdad

Dates are like job interviews

I wonder if the psychology of the modern dating game just appeals more to women than men?

I'm in my early fifties now. In my teens, people were either very much in a relationship or not; the idea of going on a date with someone to see if you wanted a relationship was something alien we saw on American television. By my thirties, I'd largely opted out of the whole thing.

The idea of going on a date which was effectively a job interview seemed a very unappealing way of spending an evening when there was the alternative of doing something I enjoyed. If I met somebody that way, well and good; if not, it didn't matter – I was out having fun, doing things I wanted to do. I met women who were attracted to me and I not them, women to whom I was attracted and they not me, and on it went.

Eventually I met the woman who is now my wife quite by accident, through friends.

I did once, for a magazine article I agreed to write, go to a speed-dating night. It was hell on earth for me – I hated it. I dabbled very briefly with internet dating as well, but never went on a date because I never saw anyone I thought would be a match. It all felt pointless.

PadraigMahone

Let things happen naturally

It was the same decades ago. I once got asked to join a speed-dating night as there weren't enough men. I'd just had a bad accident, so I explained to the organiser that I was in no fit state to go looking for a date; I'd come just for the fun of it.

I had to fill in a form where you had to describe yourself in three words. Assuming I would get no dates whatsoever, I wrote "toothless, not heartless." Then I sat down with each girl and explained I was here just for fun – because, well, look at the state of me.

To my surprise, every single girl put me top of their list – and even the girl organising the event asked me out. The other guys didn't get a look in because they were trying to be "sensitive, caring, and kind" like they had written down –and this went absolutely nowhere.

There's a serious point here – men don't like dating events because they feel forced and synthetic. The format itself runs against the grain of how many men are wired to court. Being lined up for inspection, filling in forms, rotating on a timer – not just uncomfortable, but actively undermines the qualities that tend to make men attractive in the first place: spontaneity, confidence, a bit of mystery. Hard to be mysterious when you're wearing a name badge. It doesn't feel particularly "blokey" to offer yourself out for selection.

Dating events aren't struggling because men are emotionally stunted or commitment-averse – they're failing because the environment selects against natural confidence and rewards a kind of performed sensitivity that most people, including the women attending, can smell from a mile off.

Far better to go, have some fun, and let things happen naturally – even when you're least expecting it!

Sneaker

I’d head to an event over an app

I have to say that for someone who hasn't been dating for 30 years, this goes against what I would have expected – i.e., men outnumbering women 15:1 rather than the other way round.

If I ever found myself dating again, I'd have thought I'd head to an event like this long before I'd join an app, to be honest. But maybe that's just me.

GoodGriefCharlieBrown

Some of the comments have been edited for this article for brevity and clarity.
 
Comment compilation:
FinnSmith
4 days ago
Once again the writer completely ignores the more fundamental reasons why young men are avoiding relationships, evidenced by the fact that 50% of men between the ages of 18-34 didn’t bother approaching a woman last year. This trend has been growing for decades, ever since men were demonized by the feminist movement from the ‘70’s onward. We were told that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, that marriage is a patriarchal institution for the oppression of women, remember?

And now, 50 years later, having seen what divorce has done to their fathers’ generation, having been told that everything they do, from opening doors for women to smiling at them, from sitting on buses incorrectly to explain things to them is “misogyny”, they have decided not to bother anymore, especially after being told that men who no longer want marriage are “immature Peter Pans” simply because they won’t follow their tradition roles as fathers and husbands.

Meanwhile, those women who took the feminist advice not to marry but to pursue their careers instead have belated come to realize that those women who ignored that advice married the most eligible men years ago, and now have both families and careers, while the ones who listened to feminists are now holding date nights to try to get men to perform their traditional roles as husbands and fathers, as if the last 50 years never happened.

Feminists claimed they wanted women to be independent of men. Now that their wish has come true, they want to reverse the trend because it suits them. You made your bed. Now you can lie in it alone.

Tom
5 days ago
Like most dating articles, the original article was a confusing word salad. Go on Youtube and watch a few dating videos and you'll find out why men aren't going. If a man has the upper hand on a dating app then he's in the top 10-15% by height, status or looks and, correct, he has no need to go to a dating event. Most other men will be able to tell you what endless rejection feels like, so they're not going to go to an event to receive more rejection.

A lot of the comments under the original article said similar things to this. Not many have made it into this summary though.

Credo
5 days ago
It is a gamble.

People have a lot of practical work like things that they must do all the time just to float their lives. Many of these things can actually be achieved. One has a better chance of gaining satisfaction and making progress and one is unlikely to waste resources.

All the pop ups are a costly distraction from that endeavour, pleasant though they may be.

Love, oh love, careless love?

Not saying risky behaviour isn´t fun. It just has a habit of starting off better than it finishes.

pseudonym
5 days ago
I don't understand the problem. Most of my wives and girlfriends have made the first move, just as well because I'm not a talker.

Computersaysno
6 days ago
If ghosting was to become deeply unfashionable, socially unacceptable, and something to be mocked amongst your peers, then dating may improve. And both genders are guilty of this.

tolerantviews
7 days ago
Alternatively ask the women to wear bikinis and parade past a selection of men who can then make the decision on who they want to talk to? I bet they would prefer not to, much in the same way men don't want to offer up inane conversation on a speed date.

Paulie0902
7 days ago
As a man I think that attending singles nights sounds like jumping into a piranha infested river.
 
Brutal humiliation ritual. Back in my day we went to the pub/club and if you liked the person (or one or both of you were pissed enough) you got a shag out of it. I genuinely think I'd be a seething incel if I came of age in current year. I'm not hideous or poor or that boring but I'm also not chad.
 
Count your fucking blessings if you’re a well-meaning upstanding man that finds a woman with actual substance in the age range of 18-32.

Social media truly destroyed the average woman’s ability for growth and attachment. Most of them have so many men of varying quality at their disposal all at once that they don’t give a fuck anymore. Not all, but many.
 
Most of these arguments are sound, but they overall heavily undersell how many problems are there in modern dating, becaue these comments were written by old fucks over 40 who mostly had to suffer only early stages of modern dating hell.
 
The problem men face is that women date like bossman gambles, Once boss hit a $200k run that was the new normal, he's forever chasing that high. The best looking man that has ever given a woman the slightest indicator that he was attainable for her is her new normal and anything that doesn't meet or exceed that man is not good enough, that doesn't mean she will never, ever be in a relationship with a less desirable man but it does mean she'll never be satisfied in such a relationship.

Before the internet and especially social media/dating apps that man was someone from her social circle or local area who then had to have taken time out of his day to at least smile and talk to her, significantly diminishing the likelihood of her ending up completely delusional. Unfortunately for men today her having matched with Henry Cavill-lite one time to her means anything less than him is a downgrade with which she will never be content, much less happy.
 
We need to get rid of dating culture and go back to your family filtering potential candidates to choose from until the right one is to marry.
 
I have to say that for someone who hasn't been dating for 30 years, this goes against what I would have expected – i.e., men outnumbering women 15:1 rather than the other way round.
This is my experience. Given how inane the apps have become I seriously considered giving one of these events a try, but as a guy in my area you have sometimes a multi-month wait just to get into one. The groups hosting them are desperate for female attendees if the continual female ticket availability (girls also pay less per ticket) is any measure. In that scenario it's just not worth the cost and time investment - much easier swiping on occasion to keep your profile active and instead spending the time on yourself and your hobbies.
 
What kind of drama king calls this hell on earth? I mean if it was a room full of Indian men, and you’re a woman, yes it would be.

That’s the only fear you should have for singles nights, is that it’s just all dudes and you wasted the gas to get there
 
We need to get rid of dating culture and go back to your family filtering potential candidates to choose from until the right one is to marry.
Not necessarily, with how many parents today don't even want the best for their kids.

The real problem is the death of big circles of acquaintances, hobbies, cultural events etc. where men and women can meet each other in a platonic environmen without pressure to romance.
 
What kind of drama king calls this hell on earth? I mean if it was a room full of Indian men, and you’re a woman, yes it would be.

That’s the only fear you should have for singles nights, is that it’s just all dudes and you wasted the gas to get there
Probably zoomers who grew up on their phone instead of outside?
 
The type of man the women at these events want don't need these type of events. For every other type of man, they quickly learned these events is just a humiliation ritual.
 
even just going on a regular 'date' with some random stranger is unappealing to me, doing that in a crowd of dozens of other strangers makes it even more repulsive

none of my relationships started from hitting up strangers like that, instead they all came from meeting and getting to know a girl naturally during everyday life, and things just naturally developed from there

The problem men face is that women date like bossman gambles, Once boss hit a $200k run that was the new normal, he's forever chasing that high. The best looking man that has ever given a woman the slightest indicator that he was attainable for her is her new normal and anything that doesn't meet or exceed that man is not good enough, that doesn't mean she will never, ever be in a relationship with a less desirable man but it does mean she'll never be satisfied in such a relationship.

Before the internet and especially social media/dating apps that man was someone from her social circle or local area who then had to have taken time out of his day to at least smile and talk to her, significantly diminishing the likelihood of her ending up completely delusional. Unfortunately for men today her having matched with Henry Cavill-lite one time to her means anything less than him is a downgrade with which she will never be content, much less happy.
yep this is a real development
more and more girls seem to practically live on social media, to the point where they barely even register people around them IRL as actual humans anymore
 
Dating culture is absolutely toxic. There's just this weird meta-ness surrounding it. Like, there's no meeting anyone and building a relationship like people used to do. It's everyone optimizing metrics or seeing what they can get away with.

Or, if you need to go to a singles event, you walk in with the expectation of finding someone, and ultimately being disappointed when you don't, and if you keep doing that, it becomes a doom spiral.

But you can't NOT do it if you're looking for someone because the organic ways of meeting people are long past, or no one will approach you anyway because nobody talks to anyone. So you wade through the bots and scammers and sex pests, and codependent weirdos and maybe you'll find someone that will be interested for a few months before they realize they don't have to commit to you because there's a whole dating pool out there.

It's now all gross and weird, and it feels like a prison crossed with Groundhog Day.
 
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