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After Sting and the Dudley Boyz coming back to WWE, is there any chance for The Sandman to be hired?
Or is a beer drinkin', cane swingin', hard playin' son of a gun like him too much to handle for the current WWE era?
 
Bork Laser said:
Your right. In rewatching some old ECW stuff before that KOTR shit like this was almost common. But remember this was the first time anyone was exposed to this sort of stunt in a major company. While Hardcore matches existed long before this, that match solidified hardcore type matches in the general wrestling fan's eye. And yeah looking back the stunt maybe wasn't that impressive and the angle wasn't good leading up to the match but the fact he was thrown off the cell, climbed back up, went through it, smashed into thumb tacks and completed the match is what it is really remembered for
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Foley is a freak of nature. His pain tolerance is enormous. Both falls were botched - on the first one, he dislocated his shoulder when he didn't hit the table square-on. On the second, as @*Asterisk* mentions, the chair went through the cage along with Foley and hit him on the head. For him to get up and to finish the match (including taking a bump onto thumbtacks) was an incredible display of commitment. He's paying for it nowadays, sadly - and that's the point.

The life expectancy for pro wrestlers is horrendous - even for guys who never jump off anything higher than the second rope. Particularly in the modern era where everything is televised and archived, "hardcore" wrestling very quickly becomes an arms race. Going off the top of the cell is fine, but what do you do next year? Set the guy on fire first? No table? Higher cell? It settles into a cycle of escalating danger until someone goes Owen.

I'm glad that there's been a collective step back from hardcore spots - at least among major promotions. There's still a place for the old ultraviolence - it just works more effectively as an occasional injection rather than a permanent drip-feed. Vampiro vs Pentagon Jr was my favourite match from Season 1 of Lucha Underground, and there's no way it would've been such a spectacle if PJ had spent the previous weeks clocking guys with light tubes at every opportunity.
 
I can't even watch CZW. and they have some great talent. Its all that other bullshit that turns me off.
 
Somebody should buy AAA some basic blank contracts.
 
yawning sneasel said:
Alberto del Rio is back and US Champ.
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iirc he's still the Megachampion of AAA, too.
Like, as far as lucha dirtsheets thought ADR was possible after December, but I'm pretty sure AAA has cards lined up with him on it.
Not sure about AAA but glancing at cubsfan shows he's still supposed to work a bunch of shows through November.
 
Sin Myzticar Dos Punto Cero For Windows Workgroups has changed his name again.
He is now called "Caristico"
 
It's for the best. Místico Punto Dos is a stupid name anyway. It makes him sound like a Spanish Language FM radio station.
 
Chuggernaut said:
The details of Hulk Hogan's WCW contract are out in the wild and they are NUTS.

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Meh. Beside the right to decide all match outcome over the four years period, nothing really stands out.
 
DNJACK said:
Meh. Beside the right to decide all match outcome over the four years period, nothing really stands out.
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True, but that is the lynchpin which arguably doomed WCW, and likley TNA as well.

Of course that's not news, everyone knew that for years now.
 
In other wrassle circles the subject came up: Who has WWE actually gotten over? Like, a guy who got over, wasn't already over from another company or the indies, wasn't the "the crowd won't cheer the guy we picked" fallback like Bryan or backed into a corner by the competition like Austin, or things like that?
 
XYZpdq said:
In other wrassle circles the subject came up: Who has WWE actually gotten over? Like, a guy who got over, wasn't already over from another company or the indies, wasn't the "the crowd won't cheer the guy we picked" fallback like Bryan or backed into a corner by the competition like Austin, or things like that?
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Cena?
 
XYZpdq said:
In other wrassle circles the subject came up: Who has WWE actually gotten over? Like, a guy who got over, wasn't already over from another company or the indies, wasn't the "the crowd won't cheer the guy we picked" fallback like Bryan or backed into a corner by the competition like Austin, or things like that?
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If somebody actually does get over? Almost without exception it's because whatever company they work for decided to get behind them, and this is true even in WWE.

This doesn't mean that companies will take guys from nothing and turn them into something and do everything right every step of the way. Every company makes mistakes with their talent, and the talent often has to work hard to overcome those failures. But if the company the wrestler works for doesn't decide to get behind them? In almost every instance that's the end of the discussion.

The Daniel Bryans are the exceptions, not the rule.
 
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