Games Ruined By One Thing

[HorseInTheWindow]

I hear a lot of people complain that they hated The Star for being all ranged combat, but The Edge is well liked despite being all melee. Personally I see each as being the final test of each combat style, seeing as they are the last two real bosses of the game.

In my opinion it's just because fight with The Edge feels and looks cooler. It is hard to believe that someone could beat all bosses before him and still somehow doesn't learn how to properly parry. And if you know how to parry the boss is very easy, on par with The Beat.
The Star, beside being ranged only combat, introduces new range mechanic which is instrumental to beating the boss and it brought up without any proper explanation.
I feel that idea about them being the final test would be better if their mechanics in furier mode changed more drastically.

 

[ReasonablyRetarded]

Paradox games, namely HOI4, with having to learn new or relearn old systems with every goddamn DLC they release because every DLC comes with a free update.

When there wasn't any DLC I could play it with ease and do pretty well but returning to it now and having to learn 26372 new systems is demotivating and a pain in the ass.
I just wish there was a way to disable certain updates and re-enable them so I could actually take my time learning systems one by one instead of all at once.

 

[56 others]

As retarded as it sounds, Saints Row 4 was ruined for me by taking place in a virtual world. For those who haven't played, real earth is blown up by aliens (killing off some good characters), and the entire game takes place in a simulated earth as the heros try to find a way out of the matrix. It honestly could be reskinned into a solid matrix game, some of the set pieces are straight up ripped from the movies.

The powers were cool, but the virtual world (that constantly reminds you by purposely having it glitch out or act like a model or texture isn't loading in) genuinely ruins it for me.

 

[The Feline Solution]

Final Fantasy Tactics letting you save mid missions without a way out. Anybody that played it knows about this pearl, but basically you are locked into a one on one duel with Ramza and a pretty strong holy knight. I went with a simple "he's a knight!" Setup and got my shit kicked in. Ended up having to start the game again since I didn't have a back up save

This section taught a generation of gamers, me included, to always use more than one save slot. There's another part later on where a similar soft-lock can happen: You are in a city and Mustadio is off to pawn a Zodiac Stone (i think, it's been some years), if you leave the city a fight starts with no previous indicator that it would happen. If you sent out good party members on propositions, like what you usually do when you are in a new city, you can be equally as fucked as in the Wiegraf fight, as even cancelling propositions won't make your party members be usable right away.

Regarding OP, The Witcher 3 and its combat system.

Edit: Also, every kind of wagglan' controls, this pretty much ruined the Wii as a whole for me. As others mentioned already, DS/3DS games using touch screen mechanics just for the hell of it are also bad offenders.

 

[ShitLurker]

This section taught a generation of gamers, me included, to always use more than one save slot. There's another part later on where a similar soft-lock can happen: You are in a city and Mustadio is off to pawn a Zodiac Stone (i think, it's been some years), if you leave the city a fight starts with no previous indicator that it would happen. If you sent out good party members on propositions, like what you usually do when you are in a new city, you can be equally as fucked as in the Wiegraf fight, as even cancelling propositions won't make your party members be usable right away.

Regarding OP, The Witcher 3 and its combat system.

Edit: Also, every kind of wagglan' controls, this pretty much ruined the Wii as a whole for me. As others mentioned already, DS/3DS games using touch screen mechanics just for the hell of it are also bad offenders.

Don't remember that second "fuck you" point, but probably because with the power of math, Ramza was already soloing most fights by himself and if I had the black mage around it was just insult to injury.

Fully agreed on the gimmick controls for gimmick controls sake. Didn't have a wii so no opinions on the waggle, but did have a 3ds and fucking hell some of the expectations for the stilus were a goddamn pain. Also made emulation absolutely wretched, try to play Rythm Heaven or The World Ends With You with a mouse, was not a good time.

 

[Seymour Duncan]

For me, it's any shooter with escort missions. I can't stand having to babysit some stupid NPC. I really hated that level in Goldeneye.

Metro 2033 takes the cake for me. Miller and his gay exploding jellies can go fuck themselves, it's been a decade plus since I last played that and it still infuriates me. Apparently they toned that down for the remake?

 

[Product Placement]

Any game on Steam that uses a 3rd party launcher, especially the Take 2 one that makes games run far worse.

Wouldn't say any of these are ruined but they do have one big issue above the rest.
Mario 64 the camera
Crash 1, not being able to save when you want
RE4 the Island, it's not bad but it such a huge step down from the rest of the game
Death Stranding the whole building the world together with other players is fake, while other player do help, the game will make you build most of the roads.
Zelda: Wind Waker, the Triforce fetch quest
Dead Rising, the survivor ai isn't great, the fact they have issues getting into the safe room when you have more than 1 of them says everything
Bayo 3, is a switch game that is clearly targeting higher platforms which leads to an ugly game that runs poorly

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Metro 2033 takes the cake for me. Miller and his gay exploding jellies can go fuck themselves, it's been a decade plus since I last played that and it still infuriates me. Apparently they toned that down for the remake?

IDK, but I DO know I have those distortion pickups in my Soloist Pro and they are awesome.

@56 others
As retarded as it sounds, Saints Row 4 was ruined for me by taking place in a virtual world

I liked it. Thought SR The Third was better but SR4 was still lots of fun. I had the Dubstep Gun as a ringtone for ages.

 

[I Do Not Post]

As retarded as it sounds, Saints Row 4 was ruined for me by taking place in a virtual world. For those who haven't played, real earth is blown up by aliens (killing off some good characters), and the entire game takes place in a simulated earth as the heros try to find a way out of the matrix. It honestly could be reskinned into a solid matrix game, some of the set pieces are straight up ripped from the movies.

The powers were cool, but the virtual world (that constantly reminds you by purposely having it glitch out or act like a model or texture isn't loading in) genuinely ruins it for me.

This. the fact that most of the characters I liked from 3 died at the start of the damn game made the whole story seem like a hopeless futile effort, because short of a hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy-esque scenario where they straight up build a new Earth exactly as it was when it got destroyed, 7 billion people still died and there's nothing left to do but die on a space ship. Yeah, you got back at the alien that did it, nice. Everyone's still dead.

I know i'm reading too far into the story of a fucking Saints Row game but that's the feelings the game left me with. The callbacks were still fun, though, as were most of the gameplay gimmicks.

 

[Pholidota]

The Binding of Isaac's daily run unlocks. I have Dead God now but having to play a daily run on 30 seperate days is a slog, and having to win 5 in a row is a nightmare.
The daily runs are sometimes completely random, and other times manually modified for holidays, special occasions etc. which means that sometimes you'll be on a 3 day streak and the next run will be on national shit your pants day and you spawn in with your only means of damage being farting within 3 inches of an enemy with no item rooms. The only way around this is to check fucking Reddit every day to make sure you don't fuck your streak on an epic troll.

Game's still great though

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Any toys to life game -> the toys.

A lot of these games are well made and fun, but you look like an absolute consoomer for ever investing in them. They are a money sink that takes up loads of shelf space. The only exception to these are Amiibos as they don’t do much past acting as collectors pieces.

I honestly find Dimensions fun, but the money investment is bad. I just grab the franchises I am interested in as crafting a full roster is not worth it, though, then I miss out on tons of shit because that one asshole has the one ability you need. Wish there was just a flat-rate version like Infinity has on Steam. As for Skylanders, bruh, I ain’t invested in that shit, my god, how many of those did they shit out?

 

[April Ryan]

It's a bit strong to say ruined, but as they anounced they are re-mastering it I want to talk about Baiten Kaitos.

Baiten Kaitos is a gamecube rpg that I thoroughly enjoyed. It had a fairly unique card-deck combat system, the story was ... memerable if not not necessarily good, the art direction was great and the music was god-tier. No it can not be overstated how good the soundtrack is, in a "I will literaly sit doing nothing on the world screen for 5 minutes so I can listen to the music" level of here is the free game with the £50 ost you bought.

All of which makes the quality of the voice acting all the more baffling. The games central premise, is that the player is a guardian spirt in another dimention, guiding and empowering the party, so to go with this all the voices have this wierd filter to make it sound like they are being distorted by the wall between dimentions. But only the voices, the music, sound effects and even calling out attack names in combat come through clean, just story dialoge is effected.

Even if you removed the filter however you would still be left with some of the worst voice acting I have ever heard. Some of it felt like medioce actors given terrible direction, but others were just stright-up bad, like if you told be that the soilder woman party member was not a native english speaker it would go some way to explaining it.

I can't remember where it was but I once saw a joke about a games option menu having a "make the game good" toggle, but BK realy does have that in the turn voice acting on or off, which genuenly improves the experience of playing the game by a noticable degree.

 

[Kheapathic]

This section taught a generation of gamers, me included, to always use more than one save slot. There's another part later on where a similar soft-lock can happen: You are in a city and Mustadio is off to pawn a Zodiac Stone (i think, it's been some years), if you leave the city a fight starts with no previous indicator that it would happen. If you sent out good party members on propositions, like what you usually do when you are in a new city, you can be equally as fucked as in the Wiegraf fight, as even cancelling propositions won't make your party members be usable right away.

I got really lucky after using my big brain for that Wiegraf > Aries fight.

I ended up doing a jank ass build with Speed Save (Archer reaction ability), let Wiegraf hit me over and over until my speed was in the 60's or so. When I feel safe enough, I finish him off; he transforms, my party rushes in, and Ramza defeat Wiegraf without help because he got about 6 turns in a row for everyone else's 1. Then it took me about a full weekend to figure out how to survive the Elmdor and Assassins fight, while stealing all of Elmdor's gear and learning Ultima.

That game had a lot of hidden fuck yous in it... still great though.

 

[The Feline Solution]

I got really lucky after using my big brain for that Wiegraf > Aries fight.

I ended up doing a jank ass build with Speed Save (Archer reaction ability), let Wiegraf hit me over and over until my speed was in the 60's or so. When I feel safe enough, I finish him off; he transforms, my party rushes in, and Ramza defeat Wiegraf without help because he got about 6 turns in a row for everyone else's 1.

I usually do the same but with Yell ever since, using Chemist's Auto-Potion also makes the fight a non-issue. Still, best learning experience in vidya for me, to this day i use 3-5 save slots in rotation in any game i play.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Does ruining my immersion by ludonarrative dissonance count?
I'm playing Papers, Please again after having abandoned it LONG ago, apparently abandoned because a bureaucracy simulator is not really that fun.
My one thing is the way the penalties work. If you improperly process someone - deny them entry when they should have been allowed it, allow entry when you should have denied it - you get penalized, with escalating penalties (free, free, -5, -5, -10, etc.). This is central to the entire game because the way the game creates tension is by forcing you to process people quickly (number of people a day determines your salary) for its little family survival mechanic and it creates actual loss when you want to cave in to someone's sad little sob story.

The reason this doesn't work is because the fact that your boss knows that you didn't process someone correctly means that they must have some other means to check them, in which case none of your choices SHOULD matter, or if your choices should matter you shouldn't be penalized because then noone should be watching you.

You might argue, "STFU, it's a game, it doesn't matter," but the whole point of the game is that it's trying to depict how some small person (a border guard) can play a large role in many people's lives, and the brutality of Communism, through its mechanics. So if the mechanics are at odds with the game itself, that is a problem.

I think it could have been done better had it treated it as a risk of getting caught, the more incorrect processings you do (especially loaded up in a certain timeframe) the more likely you trigger an investigation into your crossing (maybe even decoy migrants to sus you out) and potentially liquidation by Stasi. You shouldn't be able to put a direct monetary value on how badly helping someone is going to fuck you over, the whole spirit of living in the Eastern Bloc was that you were always on your guard.

I may just be done with it anyways, because by like day four my family was already dead which if they were big enough bitches to get sick and die after one night in the cold they deserve it.

 

[round robin]

FF14 playerbase has thin fucking skin.

I remember seeing some troll in the Novice Network make a racist joke about Brown Mages and the entire chat just turned into a circlejerk of pearl-clutching faggotry for the next hour. Between that, the rampant sexual degeneracy/troonism, and impatient elitist faggots queuing up with randoms instead of using party finder (or just making friends), FF14 is an otherwise enjoyable MMO that is ruined by its retard userbase.

 

[You gain Brouzouf]

My best example would be when a friend finally talked me into trying League of Legends. They're at work, but I installed it and created my account; I decide I'll try to get a few games in so I can at least pretend I know what I'm doing. I queue up on Beginner / Bots, get matched with others and when I get a chat box tell them, "First game, willing to take some advice;" and some fucking lunatic says "I REFUSE TO CARRY YOU!" and fucking drops out of the game. Beginner mode, against bots... and homeboy is already that fucking sweaty. I know it's LoL and they're the worst community or whatever, but that mentality exists elsewhere, and it makes me hate people.

Had a similar thing happen with LoL except I started playing with a friend and one of his friends.

Spoiler: Average LoL player

They had thousands of hours and I had never played a MOBA at that time.
We did a few bot matches which went fine so we queued up for a real game.
I'm trying to play safe and stuff but I don't know the meta or what any of the characters do so I take two deaths early on.
Friend's friend gets extremely pissy, bitches that I'm feeding and says we already lost.
He would not stop audibly sighing and grumbling.
He votes to forfeit and then refuses to participate in the match.
I tell him to quit bitching and play the game and make him wait out the rest of the match
Call him a faggot after the match and uninstall LoL immediately.

MOBA's have some of the most autistic players who can be 100% aware that you are new and trying to learn the game, and this will upset them for some reason.
Games that advertise themselves as e-sports also tend to attract the biggest faggots .

 

[FuckYouNigger]

The goddamn fucking pigeons in Grand Theft Auto IV. I'm stuck at 198 pigeons and 97.5% game completion because i have to look for the remaining ones.

 

[skjora]

The autosave system in Titanfall 2 (which I otherwise fucking adore) really bothered me. I enjoyed the relatively punishing difficulty of the hardest mode, but I often it felt I respawned *forwards* on death. I enjoyed the challenge, don't break up the pace like that! Same goes for literally any game with mandatory "dynamic difficulty". Fuck that shit, let me fuck up.

Any mid-late 2000's console to PC port is also likely to be ruined by being locked to a horribly low FOV. The ability to adjust that these days is one of the very few things that's trending positively in regards to graphical/gameplay/sound options. Man I miss the Quake series though, where you got a console/config files and could set your god damn sound and display units among other things.

 

[56 others]

Had a similar thing happen with LoL except I started playing with a friend and one of his friends.

Spoiler: Average LoL player

They had thousands of hours and I had never played a MOBA at that time.
We did a few bot matches which went fine so we queued up for a real game.
I'm trying to play safe and stuff but I don't know the meta or what any of the characters do so I take two deaths early on.
Friend's friend gets extremely pissy, bitches that I'm feeding and says we already lost.
He would not stop audibly sighing and grumbling.
He votes to forfeit and then refuses to participate in the match.
I tell him to quit bitching and play the game and make him wait out the rest of the match
Call him a faggot after the match and uninstall LoL immediately.

MOBA's have some of the most autistic players who can be 100% aware that you are new and trying to learn the game, and this will upset them for some reason.
Games that advertise themselves as e-sports also tend to attract the biggest faggots .

I like to tell them in the old days their competitiveness would make them a strong man but instead they burn it on being a little bitch in a dying video game