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Ferrari and Merc stuff stuck on a blockaded road (by protests) in Brazil.

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I was excited when Mexico City was announced to be coming back in 2015, right until I realized that meant Tilke would get to ''upgrade'' yet another classic track. I can just imagine the little faggot COOMING as he paved over the godly Peraltada corner.
When you consider how relatively preserved Zandvoort has remained since its return to the calendar, there really is no fucking excuse. It's more or less the same automotive rollercoaster it always was, just with more gravel traps and wider run-off areas.
 
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Stoffel Van Fail: truly one of the cockroaches of this sport. Are they bringing back Hartley and Kvyat too?
These seasons happened while I was getting the hell out of California, so I'm low-info. Is there something wrong with Stoffel other than being hopelessly slow?
 
These seasons happened while I was getting the hell out of California, so I'm low-info. Is there something wrong with Stoffel other than being hopelessly slow?
Modern day pay driver, basically.
Scooped up a mere 26 points in his entire career, 2 seasons plus a point-scoring sole appearance in 2016. To put that into perspective, Fernando Alonso scored 50 points as his team-mate in 2018.
 
Yeah, the only thing I knew about him was watching that proto-DTS documentary which seemed much more real life. The Honda situation seemed hopeless, they showed up late to the factory with an engine that wouldn't start without a software patch from Japan, and with dimension changes they never told McLaren about.
 
Stoffel came from the shit generation as it will always be known. You had Palmer, Stoffel, Hartley, Chilton, Wehrlein all coming through junior series with enough points to get into F1. With Bianchi being the one shining star of the lot.

Thank god the Leclerc, Russell, Norris generation came along or we'd be looking at a very talent starved grid.

The Vegas GP tickets have opened for sale. Cheapest seat for the gp is $2500 and the cheapest strip hotel for the weekend is currently running $400 a night. They have also jacked the 2023 COTA tickets by $150 from what they were this year.
 
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Stoffel came from the shit generation as it will always be known. You had Palmer, Stoffel, Hartley, Chilton, Wehrlein all coming through junior series with enough points to get into F1. With Bianchi being the one shining star of the lot.

Thank god the Leclerc, Russell, Norris generation came along or we'd be looking at a very talent starved grid.
It's insane how we had a period in F1 from 2008 - 2017 where almost every single rookie who joined the sport never amounted to shit. I can count the newcomers who ended up having success during that time (MV, Ric, Checo, maybe K-Mag and Kvyat at a push) on one hand. Maybe a second if you want to include everyone that managed to get at least one podium, like Kobayashi, Grosjean, Maldonado and Ocon.
 
It's insane how we had a period in F1 from 2008 - 2017 where almost every single rookie who joined the sport never amounted to shit. I can count the newcomers who ended up having success during that time (MV, Ric, Checo, maybe K-Mag and Kvyat at a push) on one hand. Maybe a second if you want to include everyone that managed to get at least one podium, like Kobayashi, Grosjean, Maldonado and Ocon.
Kobayashi absolutely was worth his seat, his problem was that he never had the luck to find an open slot for his skill level. Closest he got was 2012 Sauber which was a good car but not near the real good ones.
 
Kobayashi absolutely was worth his seat, his problem was that he never had the luck to find an open slot for his skill level. Closest he got was 2012 Sauber which was a good car but not near the real good ones.
Same with Glock. Had he not had his major accident in 2009, he'd have been hot property the following season. Instead he ended up in the last of the reject teams.

But it's honestly amazing going back and remembering so many names you'd plain forgotten they left such a minimal mark on the sport.
  • Jaime Alguersuari
  • Sebastien Bourdais
  • Sebastien Buemi
  • Robert Doornbos
  • Giedo van der Garde
  • Lucas di Grassi
  • Esteban Gutierrez
  • Yuji Ide
  • Narain Karthikeyan
  • Christian Klien (did YOU know he came back for 3 races in 2010? I fucking didn't.)
  • Vitantonio Liuzzi
  • Franck Montagny
  • Kazuki Nakajima
  • Felipe Nasr
  • Vitaly Petrov (other than THAT moment and a lone podium in 2011)
  • Nelson Piquet Jr.
  • Charles Pic
  • Paul di Resta (touted as the next Coulthard... lmao)
  • Bruno Senna
  • Sergey Sirotkin
  • Scott Speed
  • Will Stevens
  • Adrian Sutil
  • Sakon Yamamoto
 
Late due to troons, but I must say I use to seriously dislike Alonso. He was good, but his attitude put me off and I used to think he wasn't worth putting up with. Now I think the exact opposite, I think he's grown to be my favorite driver the past couple of years, and the 2022 US GP just made doubly sure in my mind that he is definitely one of the best drivers in F1 ever, and the most underrated if you go by his record alone. That crash, his shaken radio confession that it was a very late move (it was definitely Stroll's fault but at that moment Alonso felt it was his mistake and owned up to it), nursing the limping car back to the pit and then pushing hard again up to 7th when he was clearly scared by the accident (never heard him so subdued on the radio). I know this is brought up a lot, but he's 41 years old!

I don't like to talk up drivers too much. I really like Norris and hope he wins a lot with McLaren, but I don't like to go beyond "he did a great job" even if he does something extraordinary. Alonso is turning out to be the exception, I do like to point out his outstanding moments from the last 2 years. And this is coming from someone who very much hopes McLaren beats Alpine in the WCC.
 
Late due to troons, but I must say I use to seriously dislike Alonso. He was good, but his attitude put me off and I used to think he wasn't worth putting up with. Now I think the exact opposite, I think he's grown to be my favorite driver the past couple of years, and the 2022 US GP just made doubly sure in my mind that he is definitely one of the best drivers in F1 ever, and the most underrated if you go by his record alone. That crash, his shaken radio confession that it was a very late move (it was definitely Stroll's fault but at that moment Alonso felt it was his mistake and owned up to it), nursing the limping car back to the pit and then pushing hard again up to 7th when he was clearly scared by the accident (never heard him so subdued on the radio). I know this is brought up a lot, but he's 41 years old!

I don't like to talk up drivers too much. I really like Norris and hope he wins a lot with McLaren, but I don't like to go beyond "he did a great job" even if he does something extraordinary. Alonso is turning out to be the exception, I do like to point out his outstanding moments from the last 2 years. And this is coming from someone who very much hopes McLaren beats Alpine in the WCC.
I disliked Alonso for the simple reason he denied Kimi his first WDC and Schumi his 8th. Then he earned my admiration once he moved to Ferrari and put up one hell of a fight in the inferior cars he was given. Remember, he's less than 10 points from being a 5-time champion for a very good reason.
 
I disliked Alonso for the simple reason he denied Kimi his first WDC and Schumi his 8th. Then he earned my admiration once he moved to Ferrari and put up one hell of a fight in the inferior cars he was given. Remember, he's less than 10 points from being a 5-time champion for a very good reason.
Yeah, and that's what I mean about his record. Just briefly looking at it as any other it severely understates how good he is.
 
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