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Jaimas said:
For the uninitiated, Diablo II has a lot of female monsters, and they're usually pretty creepy looking, but also wear very little clothing and the effect tends to actually make them more disturbing visually.
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To this very day, the best succubi depiction in a video game was in the first Diablo game. It's been 25 years and no other game comes even halway close!
 
Oh no, not the 20 years old pixel titties, whatever shall I do without them.

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Think about all the resources, dozens of dollars, used specifically to cover up Andariel's ass! These 64 pixels tall sprites used to be so attractive!

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Grand Wizard Wakka said:
The box art should have the skeleton in thick rimmed glasses with its mouth open in excitement.
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you mean the soyface?
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that would be appropriate sure, but you know they hate their coomer-boomer fans but still want their money, so... funny thing is that how they fucked up the hero. he's supposed to look like someone who lost his humanity, not demonified...
 
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Why on planet earth would anyone play Diablo 2/3 when Path of Exile exists?

Unless they drastically modify the game (they won't, hence "remaster") every man, woman, and child on earth knows how to beat Diablo 2. It's been completely solved for like 15 years - there's 0 challenge.
 
Tanner Glass said:
Why on planet earth would anyone play Diablo 2/3 when Path of Exile exists?

Unless they drastically modify the game (they won't, hence "remaster") every man, woman, and child on earth knows how to beat Diablo 2. It's been completely solved for like 15 years - there's 0 challenge.
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This is like asking why anyone would play Demon's Souls when Dark Souls or Bloodborne exists.

I can't speak for Diablo III, but Diablo II is still fundamentally an amazing game and very much worth playing. It was nothing short of genre-defining when it came out and years later it stands as one of the best games of its type ever made. It was, and still is, prior to Blizzard fucking with it, a good game, and absolutely worth your time - or at least was before Blizzard decided to "remaster" it, which will more-than-likely involve fucking up the game's matchmaking services that aren't Battle.net and completely disallowing local characters like Open Battle.net did.
 
Jaimas said:
This is like asking why anyone would play Demon's Souls when Dark Souls or Bloodborne exists.

I can't speak for Diablo III, but Diablo II is still fundamentally an amazing game and very much worth playing. It was nothing short of genre-defining when it came out and years later it stands as one of the best games of its type ever made. It was, and still is, prior to Blizzard fucking with it, a good game, and absolutely worth your time - or at least was before Blizzard decided to "remaster" it, which will more-than-likely involve fucking up the game's matchmaking services that aren't Battle.net and completely disallowing local characters like Open Battle.net did.
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That's all true, but unless the Remaster is going to drastically change the game you can just play Diablo 2 as it currently stands.

Diablo 2 was great, groundbreaking, etc, etc but it's also 20 years old and not that deep. Everyone has already played a Blessed Hammer build. Everyone has already made a nerco build that goes and revives cows from the cow level. Everyone has already played the lightning spear build, and so on.

My point wasn't that Diablo 2 is bad and PoE is good - my point is that Diablo 2 is exhausted and completely 100% solved, a normal player can only be expected to wring so much blood from a stone. I get that some people have turned to mods for D2, some moved on to different games, but I think in general there aren't many people excited for the exact same base game with updated graphics considering the huge strides made in the genre elsewhere over 20 years.

So it's not like asking "Why play Demon's Souls when Dark Souls exists" - it's like asking "Why play Demon's souls after you've beaten it 6 times already, using a different build each time, when Dark Souls 3 has much more build options, better matchmaking, more ways to play, better graphics, it's on modern consoles and PCs, etc".

I'm not trashing D2, I just think after 20 years that anything that most people were going to get out it if - they've already gotten out of it. Doubly so with Blizzard's current track record of new game releases and remasters (they're total dogshit).
 
derpherp2 said:
inb4 all copies of diablo 2 are automatically updated to the Remastered version a la Warcraft 3, breaking any and all mods, destroy any and all old save files, and then the remaster is just the game but with more polygons.
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This is easy to avoid if you never play the physical version online.
Jaimas said:
So I've been in touch with the speds going on about the Diablo 2 Remaster censorship, and, it seems, the changes go well beyond making the Amazon look like she should be smashing up a Gamestop.

Almost all of the footage has shown that all the female characters have been covered up, changed, or altered. Equally telling, however, is that they've changed the monsters. For the uninitiated, Diablo II has a lot of female monsters, and they're usually pretty creepy looking, but also wear very little clothing and the effect tends to actually make them more disturbing visually. It's a well-known horror trope, and was used rather famously by the Nurses in Silent Hill 2, for example.

For reasons known only to Blizzard, they've begun censoring these, including the Act 1 boss and the first major boss of Act 1.

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These bits of censorship are telling, because like the WC3 Remaster, they really give you an idea of where they're going to be going with this "remaster" - namely, that they are going to do this with basically every conceivably attractive female character or enemy in the game. Think of how much time and money is being spent on doing this shit, hiring teams of modelers specifically to cover up a pixelated bit of boobage here or an ass cheek there on a character barely 64 pixels tall.

That Blizzard is going to fuck this remaster up to competition standards is a bygone conclusion; the censorship itself just gives us our first taste of how up they're going to fuck.
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Funny how things went backwards the more graphics improved. The game's rated M, the intended audience should have no problem with some asses on their screen. Who is even looking at that boss long enough to notice her butt? These types of games do not give you time to notice boss booty.
 
Agent Abe Caprine said:
This is easy to avoid if you never play the physical version online.

Funny how things went backwards the more graphics improved. The game's rated M, the intended audience should have no problem with some asses on their screen. Who is even looking at that boss long enough to notice her butt? These types of games do not give you time to notice boss booty.
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Seriously. I’ve played this game since it first launched, and you hardly notice (if you notice at all) Andarial’s tits are hanging out. And it’s not like the Amazon, Assassin and Sorceress were scantily clad thots either. The fucking Amish aren’t as Puritan about sexuality as leftists anymore
 
Sick necromancer powers.

The beta got detailed:
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Looked into it a bit because I'm still highly on the fence on whether I should waste my money when I could just play the original. For whatever fucking reason, the beta will not let you Necromancer or Assassin. I can't fathom why, but thanks for deciding the one class I want to play isn't in the beta.

Looked through further, apparently they have no plans on making this cross play. Why? Everyone I know that is looking into maybe getting this game are going to be getting it for PS4/PS5 and I want it on PC. So, I can either play alone, or be uncomfortable playing it on PS. Any interest I had in the game is fucking deader than good will towards Activision.
 
Any signs that they've learned from the Reforged debacle though?
 
Just Some Other Guy said:
Hahahahahahaha....oh man, that's a good one. Blizz always manages to suck people in one more time. "Maybe this will be the good release ....?"

Gonna need a bigger rainbow.
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Bold of you to assume I'm giving them any of the benefit of the doubt. There's a reason why I'm asking if they've learned anything at all, and its because I'm 99.99% sure they're continuing to screw the pooch from their own arrogance.
 
Snekposter said:
Bold of you to assume I'm giving them any of the benefit of the doubt. There's a reason why I'm asking if they've learned anything at all, and its because I'm 99.99% sure they're continuing to screw the pooch from their own arrogance.
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To be fair, it's not a bad assumption. Tons of people will buy it, and then cope.
 
Time to break out that 4 paladin multiplayer and just wreck this shit bros.
 
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