Diablo 4 general - All shit will hit the fan this June

[Retink Retunk]

2 guys pointing at the butcher from all of the "OMG guys, the BUTCHER just wrecked me. Remember the Butcher?!"

I hate The Butcher, and I used to think he was awesome because when I was a kid he terrified the shit out of me. Now that he's been turned into a meme it's just gay, just let the fucker die and create new shit.

 

[𝓡𝓪𝓹𝓲𝓷 𝓒𝓪𝓻𝓵𝓽𝓸𝓷]

I'm a lvl 60 necro running the basic tendril/corpse explosion build. What do you guys recommend for a more viable PvP build? I just don't want to get rekt when I'm trying to extract muh hate seeds

 

[Articles and Nudes]

I'm a lvl 60 necro running the basic tendril/corpse explosion build. What do you guys recommend for a more viable PvP build? I just don't want to get rekt when I'm trying to extract muh hate seeds

Bone Spear or Bone Spirit is the only way you'll get kills, and even then you're fucked if your first attacks are avoided. Necromancers don't have the resource generation or burst damage to really excel; even worse if you're based around pets, as they're basically a non threat.

 

[Michael Wade]

So how terrible and overtly satanic is the plot? This is probably the most genuinely evil looking game ive seen in the past couple years.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

I'm sure someone is getting off to this
Probably late but whatever

 

[Nick Gars]

Gave it a play at a friend's, I will never put money into this game or Blizzard again, fuck this company, I hope they die fucking painfully.

This is the most boring fucking game I have ever played. My biggest issue is definitely the fucking scaling, doesn't matter how hard you level or how supposedly "good" your gear is, you never fucking feel like you're getting stronger and the combat never stops being tedious. From a programming and gameplay prospective, the game is perfectly serviceable, but it is the living embodiment of the adage "it is better to be an absolutely terrible game, than a mediocre one". Mediocre. Middling. Droll. Monotonous. You can't sum up this game better than that.

4 has made me look at 3 in retrospect and have more of an appreciation towards it. It may be the bigger black sheep of the two, but at the very least it was dumb mindless fun you can lose a few hours in where you actually felt like you became a God by the end-game because of how over the top powerful you've become.

As an aside, being a "live service" is fucking cancer and someone at Blizzard should be unironically lynched for that decision. 10 years from now (or less, God willing) this trash won't even be playable because the servers are going to be gone and the need for Internet connectivity is probably too built-in to change that. The microtransactions are currently on the tame side (cosmetics from what I saw), but are stupidly over priced (why the fuck would I pay $30 for an outfit I can't even see on my grey blob of a character in this grey fucking world?) and after the fiasco of Immortal, I guarantee you my left fucking nut that Blizzard is just waiting to release systems just as bad as that entire shit-show into D4, they just want you dummies... Eh, suckers.... "Customers", to get comfy with it before they smash in your skull with the greed hammer. Mark my words. The marketing for this game is also utterly fucking embarrassing as a someone who's been a fan of this series since D1. We're talking a series who's tone used (and storywise atleast still tries to be) "Gothic Fantasy Horror with heavy biblical references" to advertising the game with Billie fucking Elish tracks and KFC. It's like if you advertised the first game with Mariah Carrie and happy meal toys, it just feels disgusting, greedy and tone deaf.


Also, ya know, after the utter fucking disaster that was Immortal, anyone expecting this to actually be good is certifiably retarded and should probably check themselves into an institution for the good of society. D2R being handled by a different company and being the only Blizzard product in the past several years to not suck the shit out of a faggots ass really tells you everything you need to know about this game and the retards who made it.

 

[𝓡𝓪𝓹𝓲𝓷 𝓒𝓪𝓻𝓵𝓽𝓸𝓷]

So how terrible and overtly satanic is the plot? This is probably the most genuinely evil looking game ive seen in the past couple years.

Story was enjoyable. It's got grey morality throughout it because of a "lesser of two evils" theme.
Nick Gars above me is just trying to have the most novel "I hate it" take possible. If you weren't effortlessly breezing through enemies by the end of the story, you're just not good at the game because you don't even get to turn the game up to anything beyond babby difficulty until level 50/70, which is well after you should have already beat the story.
"M-muh microtransactions"
Nigger, can you not be happy there's no gacha mechanic or literally anything you can spend money on outside of piddly cosmetic items that do not give you any advantage whatsoever, other than mogging NEETS who are appalled at spending their tendie money so recklessly?
There are two expansions already coming and they'll be updating the post-story environment regularly. What we have right now isn't perfect or kind blowing but it is the framework they're going to comtinue to build on. People genuinely don't get the lifespan they intend for games like this otherwise they wouldn't have such passionate opinions about the launch of a game that's going to be played for the next 10 years+.
/v/ has absolutely poisoned some you guys' ability to enjoy literally anything.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Story was enjoyable. It's got grey morality throughout it because of a "lesser of two evils" theme.
Nick Gars above me is just trying to have the most novel "I hate it" take possible. If you weren't effortlessly breezing through enemies by the end of the story, you're just not good at the game because you don't even get to turn the game up to anything beyond babby difficulty until level 50/70, which is well after you should have already beat the story.
"M-muh microtransactions"
Nigger, can you not be happy there's no gacha mechanic or literally anything you can spend money on outside of piddly cosmetic items that do not give you any advantage whatsoever, other than mogging NEETS who are appalled at spending their tendie money so recklessly?
There are two expansions already coming and they'll be updating the post-story environment regularly. What we have right now isn't perfect or kind blowing but it is the framework they're going to comtinue to build on. People genuinely don't get the lifespan they intend for games like this otherwise they wouldn't have such passionate opinions about the launch of a game that's going to be played for the next 10 years+.
/v/ has absolutely poisoned some you guys' ability to enjoy literally anything.

>Diablo Story
>Good
>Inarius talks like a bitch, gets clapped like a bitch
>Lilith gets the Sylvanas/Kerrigan Treatment, ShEs sEcReTlY gOoD yOu GuYz despite being pure evil in pervious games and comics
>There's no mention of Tyrael and Zakarum faith whatsoever
>They don't even explain what the fuck happened to the world between 3 and 4.
The story is serviceable by Blizzard Standards, but then again Blizzard writers have always been shit storytellers. The same fuckwards that came up with WoW Shadowlands because Danuser wanted the Narrative to bend over backwards for his shitty Mai Waifu.

 

[𝓡𝓪𝓹𝓲𝓷 𝓒𝓪𝓻𝓵𝓽𝓸𝓷]

>Diablo Story
>Good
>Inarius talks like a bitch, gets clapped like a bitch
>Lilith gets the Sylvanas/Kerrigan Treatment, ShEs sEcReTlY gOoD yOu GuYz despite being pure evil in pervious games and comics
>There's no mention of Tyrael and Zakarum faith whatsoever
>They don't even explain what the fuck happened to the world between 3 and 4.
The story is serviceable by Blizzard Standards, but then again Blizzard writers have always been shit storytellers. The same fuckwards that came up with WoW Shadowlands because Danuser wanted the Narrative to bend over backwards for his shitty Mai Waifu.

>this game that's going to get multiple massive DLC updates over the next decade didn't tell me the entire story during the first act
>this is bad writing

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

>this game that's going to get multiple massive DLC updates over the next decade didn't tell me the entire story during the first act
>this is bad writing

Why DLC? Why isn't the story cut content in the base game to begin with?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Tanner Glass]

>this game that's going to get multiple massive DLC updates over the next decade didn't tell me the entire story during the first act
>this is bad writing

Diablo 4 is not going to get massive anything over the next decade.

Blizzard's current high water mark is a single post game expansion adding 1 new act (D2 and D3), and selling old classes as DLC (D3's Necromancer Pack). They have a horrible track record with live service games (WoW's MTX, sub fees, tokens, and box prices for expansions that are decreasing in quality), Overwatch 2's complete collapse (where you can buy $15 worth of scraps) of narrative, etc.

They'll support DLC forever in D4, but the idea of them adding anything substantial is pretty optimistic.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

The story about Lilith is mostly self contained, I can't even be mad about about them setting up future story chapters. Now if she just got Saturday morning villain'd and it ended on Lilith saying "I'll get you next time NEPHELIM and your little brown girl too," I'd understand more. My personal take on the game is less malding about the story or overpriced cosmetics and more malding why they left the game's design to people who either don't know solutions to past problems in the genre or thought they were better than those devs so they needed to dash themselves against the same stones.

Like, as an example, WD pets existed in vanilla D3 but were kind of awful. They took too much damage from incidental things and just constantly died doing very little but cock blocking a projectile once. Basically they were worthless. They also had terrible scaling since this was before legendary powers/sets. I forget if you even took the passive to shit them out for free but I'm 90% sure that was RoS content.

D3:RoS comes out. They make a lot of changes, some to the math so that they actually do damage and lived longer (I think they added or buffed their DR from AoEs at this time), they add a few legendries that make them do something, they add a set that was decent until you replaced it with Starmetal Kukri to just have a 100% uptime on tiki gang anyway. They were a central source of damage now, and you played around them dying all the time because it was easy to replace them just doing what you'd be doing anyway. There were still pain points (Gargantuan was terrible unless you took the cleave glyph) but they felt much better overall.

Overall power level started going up though. People were ending up in higher level greater rifts faster. Pets started dying and being a liability again so they just make pets literally immortal in any set that cares about pet damage by putting it as the lv 25 passive on the pet damage legendary. And they changed the Zunimassa set to actually be better then a single legendary power weapon. But there was still the issue that if you died before CDs came back up you basically bricked the rift in solo clears because you would be incredibly squishy and do no damage without your pets. Which finally got hammered out with a buff to the set many many years later.

The people working on D4 necro clearly ignored all of these lessons. Pets do OK damage and interact with legendary powers but are instantly deleted forever by various flavors of fire shit on the ground by various elites and bosses. You can spend corpses to get more but they just instantly die again. There's a HoT mechanic but like 20% healing over 4s or whatever is completely pointless when AIDS kills them in 4 ticks even with full pet DR skills. That this was a design multiple people signed off on is baffling. If I recall correctly even WoW:RotLK pets had 90% DR from AoEs because you really can not be expected to micromanage pet positioning like that in WoW where it is actually possible to micromanage pets unlike D4 where they just do whatever they want.

And there's lots of shit like that all over the game. Like gems shitting up my inventory, or how every city is designed primarily for RP for some fucking reason and not for people trying to smash their loot and return to playing the game.

 

[Articles and Nudes]

So how terrible and overtly satanic is the plot? This is probably the most genuinely evil looking game ive seen in the past couple years. how terrible and overtly satanic is the plot?

Hell is front and center, with the misery it inflicts on the world being a running theme. Due to the presence of a single angelic being it stands out even more, and actually helps the heaven/hell divide feel suitably grand; there's an absolutely magnificent late game cutscene where he cuts loose and demolishes a demonic horde, reminding you just how powerful angels are supposed to be. None of this lightly armoured grunt shit Diablo pulled.

The side content is where its at though. The main storyline is predictable, and hinges on Lilith having access to information about everything and everyone without her source being explained. She knows how Hell works, she knows where all the key players are, and she can convince everyone her way is best...despite never actually explaining why this is, given how the protagonists are protecting Sanctuary without murdering everyone in it.

Side quests flesh out the world a fair bit even if they're functionally very simple. My personal favourite is a demon that merged with a human, literally because he grew to love the taste of fresh bread - and the feel of a well laid bedroom - over INFINITE COSMIC POWER.

 

[𝓡𝓪𝓹𝓲𝓷 𝓒𝓪𝓻𝓵𝓽𝓸𝓷]

Why DLC? Why isn't the story cut content in the base game to begin with?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Nigger, it has been like 20 fucking years since they introduced the concept of microtransactions. Get over it, it's not going away.
Given, I'll be peeved if there was no benefit to getting the ultimate edition beyond the cosmetic items, but just like when Gamergate happened 40 years ago, it's broke bum niggers spending hours of their lives bitching about a $10 expansion or whatever.
If a title is going to be keeping me entertained over the next 10-15 years, I do not remotely care about paying what equates to less than half an hour of my time at work when they have put a crazy amount of man hours into producing that content.
It is beyond nigger brained to demand 10 years of expanded content for the base game price, especially when it was in development for over 5 years.
I feel like a damn shill but I'm not over here saying the game is 10/10, holy shit guys you missed out on the preorder make sure to reserve your expansions now.
I absolutely deplore interacting with you /v/ tier neets because you're not even aware of how petulant and entitled you sound. Only neets and the severely underemployed are that upset about something that costs the same as a yearly night out at a cheap restaurant.
Meet me in the Fields of Hate and I'll mog the fuck out of you with my $37.99 horse armor and swag ass transmog 'fits, you broke bitch.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Nigger, it has been like 20 fucking years since they introduced the concept of microtransactions. Get over it, it's not going away.
Given, I'll be peeved if there was no benefit to getting the ultimate edition beyond the cosmetic items, but just like when Gamergate happened 40 years ago, it's broke bum niggers spending hours of their lives bitching about a $10 expansion or whatever.
If a title is going to be keeping me entertained over the next 10-15 years, I do not remotely care about paying what equates to less than half an hour of my time at work when they have put a crazy amount of man hours into producing that content.
It is beyond nigger brained to demand 10 years of expanded content for the base game price, especially when it was in development for over 5 years.
I feel like a damn shill but I'm not over here saying the game is 10/10, holy shit guys you missed out on the preorder make sure to reserve your expansions now.
I absolutely deplore interacting with you /v/ tier neets because you're not even aware of how petulant and entitled you sound. Only neets and the severely underemployed are that upset about something that costs the same as a yearly night out at a cheap restaurant.
Meet me in the Fields of Hate and I'll mog the fuck out of you with my $37.99 horse armor and swag ass transmog 'fits, you broke bitch.
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I don't know if you are actually retarded or just acting like one. Games as service is cancer and it made AAA titles even worse than previously thought possible. When I buy a game I want a finished and done experience, and if I buy an expansion I want it to evolve the gameplay rather than just add stages and lore that won't matter if the game doesn't sell enough.

I don't buy a game for a fucking lifestyle where there isn't any real plot and you are just consooming the same fucking product for bigger numbers that don't mean shit.

 

[𝓡𝓪𝓹𝓲𝓷 𝓒𝓪𝓻𝓵𝓽𝓸𝓷]

I don't know if you are actually retarded or just acting like one. Games as service is cancer and it made AAA titles even worse than previously thought possible. When I buy a game I want a finished and done experience, and if I buy an expansion I want it to evolve the gameplay rather than just add stages and lore that won't matter if the game doesn't sell enough.

I don't buy a game for a fucking lifestyle where there isn't any real plot and you are just consooming the same fucking product for bigger numbers that don't mean shit.

Seethe harder, 35 year old chef at Wendy's ass nigga lol

 

[Site of Origin]

Glad I stuck to POE I guess....

How can they not even make a good diablo game anymore?

Because the devs that made D1 and D2 (Condor/blizzard north) were disbanded after D2 LoD.

the D2 remake is unironically better. if you're looking at D4 and it's giving you that itch, but you're not sure, just play the D2 remake. it's really good.

I'd go a step further and recommend Project Diablo 2, they run seasons too.

 

[Michael Wade]

Are the story's of Oprah giving this game crap because it doesn't run on mac true?

 

[nosemouth]

I'm sure someone is getting off to this
Probably late but whatever
Megan_Fox_Roasts_Diablo_4_Players：_Death_Edition_｜_Blizzard_Entertainment_[YA99PKMcQ5k].webm

Yes, "someone."

 

[nosemouth]

Are the story's of Oprah giving this game crap because it doesn't run on mac true?

They really all do look alike!