Opposition to the death penalty has morphed from saving innocent to people batty shit such as abolish the police, abolish prisons, abolish child support, abolish cash bail, freeing sex offenders, and other strange social ideas. You can blame the ACLU for that. They defend anyone getting executed regardless of how heinous the crime in cases that are crystal clear.
I believe everyone deserves a defense. But I also think that niggers proved guilty in a court of law doing violent acts should have no shot at restorative justice. Why should a murderer get a second chance when you deprive another person of their entire life? In short, we need to go back to old Babylon law and cut this nigger up with a chainsaw and pour his remains into a sewer while the people watch.
Of course and Williams had decades of appeals to prove his innocence. He couldn't with the evidence against him. More so, if the state won't execute people, then you just leave it up to the mob.
I said if the family saw it as more heinous they should still have the choice if he lives or dies in response to some other nonsense you said. It is their trauma so it should be their decision. What is illogical is saying that someone is an escape threat and a danger to society when 26 years behind bars have kept him well isolated and incapable of bringing harm to society. If you want to make the point that him dying 26 later was to protect society, you need to be certain that there was still something to protect society from. Otherwise it is just an act of retribution, which is a stronger argument in this case because what he did was particularly brutal.
You said the family should take revenge, but now you're criticizing acts of ... retribution? You just keep contradicting yourself, and using weird emotional arguments for a man who was a danger to society. Him dying 26 years later just means it was a travesty of justice the man was kept alive so long on taxpayer dime. Now that he's dead, he's no longer a flight risk, or a danger to a society.
That's not really the CSI Effect. The issue with the DNA is an issue of tainted evidence and a fuckup in evidentiary procedures. Like it or not, that shit shouldn't be allowed in court.
This assumes its wrong to execute murdurers. Take the L retard and grow some humility.
Dude, the cackle I had at this statement could have woken up the neighbors.
Slippery slope argument, if anyone really makes it. You can abolish this vestige of medieval ages without the other BS. If anything, I would start offering voluntary surgical castrations to sex offenders. And we need more police, better trained and better equipped.
Life got better for all us now that he's dead....
Explain that. How is your life better now that some guy you never knew rotting away in a cell is gone? And I literally just said the retribution argument is stronger. I guess it is easy to find contradictions when your reading comprehension is lower than high school level.
When he stabbed the woman he also decreased the chances of anyone being robbed and murdered by her or wronged in any other way to 0%. He also ended a life which is wrong.
Here is a better idea: Neck yourself and experience both becoming a murderer and executing a murderer firsthand simultaneously and report back your findings.
Nothing presumptuous about telling a single user who gets off on the watch people die thread that I don't care about their opinion. If you just jerk it to death of course you support the death penalty, but you're also a hypocrite. Unless you are a sock or another ghoul, that comment didn't concern you.
Considering what you are responding to it works like this: People present me with a counter point: I remind them that killing killers is still killing. They rage and tell me to stfu.
Probably because it's not really a big revelation or insight.
Given the arguments I've been getting, I think it really might be.
If I wasn't prepared I would have left the thread at the first retard who tried to shout me down. As for the Catholic Church you might as well ask me about the CIA and the Finders. Big powerful institution that has done good things and horrific things that I have no control over either way.
Well, I guess now that he is dead you can just throw away that pistol. No? Well, I guess societal trust isn't the issue. I sure as fuck don't trust society and I think you are mentally retarded if you do. Our nation is built on societal mistrust. That is why the people have power and why we have elected officials for court systems, as that is the best they could do to stop tyranny in the 1700s. Now instead of a single tyrant we have the tyranny of bureaucracy and political gridlock.
Look, I don't like the death penalty but the family had their chance at the penalty phase of the trail where the jury heard the evidence, rendered a verdict of guilt, and imposed the death penalty.
I should have been more clear, I am referring to the rebuttal where people suggest that the lack of the decedents DNA is evidence of innocence.
If Marcellus Williams completed parole and was fully released, should he be able to buy a firearm and have his criminal history sealed?
Certain persons are more dangerous than others.
No.
Let me introduce you to the filibuster:
Are you willing to stick up and defend a convicted violent murderer and advocate personally for their release? Would you accept the burden if they were to go out and severely injure someone or kill again? This guy already had multiple escalating crimes leading up to the murder, and even tried to escape prison by violently attacking a prison guard. I would say the burden of proof is on you and other like minded people to prove that he is reformed and no longer a risk, since his previous actions already showed the complete opposite. In fact, A very similar example was posted by @Hey Johnny Bravo on page 4 of this Same. Fucking. Thread. of another dumb nigger getting out of jail after 25 years, only to be arrested less than a year later for violently murdering and dismembering someone. By your own logic, he should have been a good little dindu, completely reformed and incapable of hurting a fly because of being in prison for 25 years. What makes Sheldon Johnson any different from Marcellus Williams?
In this case, why are the family the final arbiters of whether the execution is carried out? The guy was initially found guilty by a jury of his peers, and sentenced over 2 decades ago now. Do the "people" who decided his fate not have a say? Or if it's disregarded, then we have precedent to disregard every other jury outcome because of the victim's feelings. Do you really want that to be the law of the land? In the 25+ years since he MURDERED A WOMAN BY STABBING HER OVER 40 TIMES UNTIL SHE DIED, undoubtedly some of her other family members have since passed away. What about what their feelings were at the time that this Nig did a nogging?
It was infinitesimal small before that. I would feel safer had this money been invested in police equipment or some stipends for low-income students.
Rinse wash repeat.