DDoS attacks

Mr. Hands said:
Mate, I reckon Terrence Popp would be willing to talk to Null as well because everything Popp and his crew stand for is directly in line with what Null stands for.

There is one major problem I have with your post and what you said about Glenn being a “free speech absolutist.” Free speech absolutists by and large support lolicon shit as protected speech. No joke mate, “simulated CSAM” is ok in their opinion because it’s “art.” “Art” is a form of expression, which makes it protected. It’s a very slippery slope to go down.
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Free speech means exactly that. If you don't support the freedom of expression you find detestable, you don't actually support freedom of expression.

Loli is gross, but the enemy will happily latch on to that as the beginning of their campaign, and we must not give them a damn inch. Not one damn inch.
 
A Pleasant Disposition said:
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I would like to put my nomination for documentary photo in early
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BubbaRobot887 said:
I think it is either time to take this site off of the normal web and just make it a TOR thing or we may have to pass some rules for what can be posted here in line with X and Facebook and maybe make a public statement about how we are cracking down on hate speech and make regular donations to the Trevor Project,

I don't see how this site can stick around any other way.
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The people who want to destroy kiwifarms do not want to destroy it on principle. They have no principles. They don't give a fuck about """"""hate speech"""""" except as a cudgel. They want to destroy kiwifarms because it hosts information that is damaging to them personally. Every single person who has ever tried to take the site down has had a vested interest in doing so, every time.

""""""""""Hate speech"""""""""" is neither real nor the issue. We are a monument to all their sins.
 
"I'd like to see the Kiwi Farms and Josh Moon wriggle its way out of THIS jam!"
*Josh Moon and the Kiwi Farms wriggles their way out of the jam with ease*
"Ah, well, nevertheless."
 
foam rolla said:
I think Null needs to hire a big, fat, sassy black bitch to go and complain to the manager of the Internet. Being white and polite isn't going to get shit moving. You need a Kaliyah or a Qwaneeka to go in and knock over an instore display and yell I 👏 WANT 👏 TO 👏 SPEAK 👏 TO 👏 A 👏 SUPERVISOR 👏.
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+Troon out earlier than he was planning and it would immediately solve all problems

Imagine a beautiful trans woman and her black BFF being harassed by big pharma tech? OOF
 
PlugsPugs said:
Free speech means exactly that. If you don't support the freedom of expression you find detestable, you don't actually support freedom of expression.
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"Loli is gross, but free speech is free speech" is an easy line to say because loli encompasses a wide range of content and you can point to the tamer examples of such content. What happens if someone starts making 3D videos of semi-realistic (like Diana from Pragmata) fictional children getting raped by semi-realistic fictional animals? What happens if they make thousands of dollars off those videos? What happens if that content becomes mainstream?

There's a level of degeneracy one has to tolerate, but where is the line? Please, tell me.
 
I'm sure this has already been done, and I don't want to be part of the problem annoying Null with retarded retreads of ideas that don't work.

But has anyone tried describing the problem to Claude Fable and Kimi K3 and asking them to think outside the box?

For example, what if the core of the site didn't change, but DDOSing it suddenly became a much bigger deal, something where legally the feds couldn't ignore pleas for help? Is there anything that can compel them to act?

Like, this isn't a real suggestion because I doubt this is one such case, but imagine Josh was running for office and KF hosted his campaign website, and that it was mega double illegal to fuck with a candidate's website. Something along those lines.
 
Tridacnidae said:
"Loli is gross, but free speech is free speech" is an easy line to say because loli encompasses a wide range of content and you can point to the tamer examples of such content. What happens if someone starts making 3D videos of semi-realistic (like Diana from Pragmata) fictional children getting raped by semi-realistic fictional animals? What happens if they make thousands of dollars off those videos? What happens if that content becomes mainstream?

There's a level of degeneracy one has to tolerate, but where is the line? Please, tell me.
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I don't know exactly where the line is, except to vaguely gesture in a general direction. I don't know if I, or anyone, is prepared to have that conversation, but it's definitely better done somewhere that isn't the DDoS thread.
Here, we rally and give Null encouragement to keep making our foes seethe and mald.
 
https://gggthats3gs.github.io/nexus-web/
an experimental reverse proxy to the onionsite from clearnet on any regular modern browser, if you're interested please try it out

it is susceptible to the usual cat and mouse game of angry email takedown requests and such however it is almost completely L3/L4 resistant and could give us a headstart

your IP should not be visible on my side but I recommend using a VPN either way

for all intents and purposes assume this can be and is MitMed (by me) so don't sign into your account or anything​

(the infrastructure supports secure data transit between your client and the forum but this would require setup on the forum's side)
 
Tridacnidae said:
"Loli is gross, but free speech is free speech" is an easy line to say because loli encompasses a wide range of content and you can point to the tamer examples of such content. What happens if someone starts making 3D videos of semi-realistic (like Diana from Pragmata) fictional children getting raped by semi-realistic fictional animals? What happens if they make thousands of dollars off those videos? What happens if that content becomes mainstream?

There's a level of degeneracy one has to tolerate, but where is the line? Please, tell me.
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There might be some USA court ruling, but why is smut considered free speech? Not to mention that, like most political discussions, most people know what is the red lines without needing someone to highlight them, like military secrets.
 
Hepativore said:
I do think that Null should do more interviews with various people who might be sympathetic to our cause.

It has been suggested before, but I think that Glenn Greenwald would be willing to chat with Null as he is a free speech absolutist and has mentioned us before during the #dropkiwifarms debacle due to his strong anti-censorship advocacy.
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I think that this is the best short term answer. At it's core this is a social problem and not a technical one. Sometimes one can find technical solutions to social problems but in the long term I think it is going to take actually reaching out to normies and convincing normies that kf is okay. So interviews would be a great idea, especially if the problems of kf can be linked to issues some amount of normal people care about. Things like left wing terrorism, trantifa, big tech being biased against anyone who isn't a leftist, free speech. The focus should be less "people are being mean to our group" and more "your rights are being taken away and we are trying to stop that"
 
Tridacnidae said:
"Loli is gross, but free speech is free speech" is an easy line to say because loli encompasses a wide range of content and you can point to the tamer examples of such content. What happens if someone starts making 3D videos of semi-realistic (like Diana from Pragmata) fictional children getting raped by semi-realistic fictional animals? What happens if they make thousands of dollars off those videos? What happens if that content becomes mainstream?

There's a level of degeneracy one has to tolerate, but where is the line? Please, tell me.
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@demicolon you will NOT believe what's going down right now. Get in here!
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By gawd the lolicon question shall be answered someday! And sperging about it any time freeze peach is brought up was MY sweet spot.
 
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