Captain Marvel - Literally, from "her" to "hero"

[Xerxes IX]

Spoiler: To be fair, I don't think people would like if you adapted Secret Invasion. Very unwoke for 2008.

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Holy shit, I legitimately thought that was Arabic.

 

[RockVolnutt]

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Holy shit, I legitimately thought that was Arabic.

You just need to EMBRACE CHANGE. It's even funnier in retrospect considering it ends because of a narcissistic billionaire from New York becoming the most powerful man (politically) on Earth after the heroes fuck it up. I mean, until he tried to invade Asgard anyways.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

At the end of the day, the Monsterverse might look like the bigger winner than the MCU, despite not churning out movies in a yearly basis and at least knowing when to end.

The Monsterverse is doing well with not pumping it out endlessly.

Sorry for the double post but I just came across this Hollywood Reporter article.

Is It Time to Say Goodbye to the Shared Universe?

As 'Avengers: Endgame' wraps up an 11-year saga, it's become increasingly apparent that whatever lightning Marvel captured in its onscreen bottle is not a trick that’s easily replicable.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[ReplicantWiggum]

Sorry for the double post but I just came across this Hollywood Reporter article.

Is It Time to Say Goodbye to the Shared Universe?

As 'Avengers: Endgame' wraps up an 11-year saga, it's become increasingly apparent that whatever lightning Marvel captured in its onscreen bottle is not a trick that’s easily replicable.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

“Even Marvel is beginning to feel constrained, arguably. In Captain Marvel, the fate of the hero is never in doubt; she has to succeed in her mission and come into her own, because we know she's going to save the day in Avengers: Endgame”

“We know” God I hope this is just speculation.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

“Even Marvel is beginning to feel constrained, arguably. In Captain Marvel, the fate of the hero is never in doubt; she has to succeed in her mission and come into her own, because we know she's going to save the day in Avengers: Endgame”

“We know” God I hope this is just speculation.

If they could, Marvel can go the DC route and do individual films post-Endgame. Crossovers are enoguh for us.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

“We know” God I hope this is just speculation.

It is. Despite what /tv/ and /co/ keep posting, she is not shown as being any stronger than Thanos in any sense. tbh I don't see how anyone could reasonably make an argument she was even on Hulks level, much less the guy who smack Hulk around like an invalid.

 

[ReplicantWiggum]

It is. Despite what /tv/ and /co/ keep posting, she is not shown as being any stronger than Thanos in any sense. tbh I don't see how anyone could reasonably make an argument she was even on Hulks level, much less the guy who smack Hulk around like an invalid.

That makes a lot of sense it’s just unnerving when the guy who’s is trying to make her happen (Feigie) is championing her as the “Skrongest” HER-o

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

That makes a lot of sense it’s just unnerving when the guy who’s is trying to make her happen (Feigie) is championing her as the “Skrongest” HER-o

She's almost certainly going to be the new "leader" in the post Iron Man era, I think he's just trying to get hype going. Like everyone keeps saying, she's walking into an established team in Endgame with characters with 3 and 4 movies together, he's not going to be selling her as a scrappy underdog. He's going to come out going "Fuck yeah, she's the biggest and baddest bitch around and just wait til you see what she does!". Dude's not an idiot, he very obliviously knows the line he has to walk between hyping his product to normies, and actually putting someone the bulk of them don't know in the ensemble movie and just making her effectively God.

Now, a solid case could be made that it's not fair that she's new and will likely leapfrog the kayfabe pecking order over someone like Scarlett Witch or whoever they're trying to bring up when RDJ and Chris Evans are done. But as far as the idea that they've just arbitrarily decided to make her superior over all the pre-established guys isn't backed up by the movie they've delivered.

 

[Safir]

The first one is a bad example. Let's face it, if someone wrote here "I'm so incredibly grateful I lived in a world that included Stan Lee", unironically, that person would be bombarded with Autistic ratings.
Yes, Bill Maher can be an arrogant asshole, he usually is, but let's not pretend that Stan Lee's death didn't bring a lot of cringe just because we liked the old man.

(Disclaimer: I'm not American, not into capeshit, and don't give a fuck about Stan Lee. I'm only in this thread for the salt.)

Possibly, but I wouldn't participate in the bombardment, for these reasons:

Five years ago, I attended the funeral of a good man murdered by his estranged wife and her fuckbuddy. She'd phoned him at work, telling him to come home, he had, and she later "found" his severely beaten body hanging in a noose. The cops did nothing. She also attended the funeral, standing in the hall the whole time, looking clearly bored and playing with her phone. I can't imagine what his mother must have felt, but what the mother said were corny banalities that would be laughed out of a young adult publishing house.
1: I will not judge people's eloquence when they express grief.

For various reasons, I've never been a fan follower of anything I liked. Usually, the author had long since stopped making anything of the sort and was likely dead. This has held true to this day. When celebrities die, it means nothing to me; sometimes I press F to fit in. But the other month, a local 35 year-old rapper died from a blood clot. I wasn't a fan - I hadn't even thought about him since 2000, when his debut track was briefly an IRL meme. His death messed me up, for about a day, as news coverage rolled in.
2: I will not judge people's immediate reactions to facing their own mortality.

This Reddit person is a normie. An educated, employed, sane normie who was a little awkward with words on the day the person who was an important part of his/her childhood died. (The other celebrity (s)he credits with the same impact is Steve Irwin, and this person grew up to be a vet.)
3: I will not judge grown, well-adjusted adults for fondly remembering things they liked as kids, and the friendships and the sense of community those things brought.

So Bill Maher, trying to pick a NEET "COMIC BOOKS ARE THE ONE TRUE ART!!!!!" sperg to attack, picked instead a normal, educated, employed adult feeling sad about the death of Stan Lee the man when the news just broke - something that could've been avoided with one click, which Bill Maher didn't make, because he's a cunt.

 

[redcap]

The movie went from being a competent yet unremarkable hold-out until End Game to groan-worthy in literally the last two seconds of the film.

Spoiler: God Fucking Dammit

Fury's beginning to write up the "Protector Initiative" and gets handed Danvers' files. There's a photo that shows her call-sign is "Avenger".

This by-the-numbers, forgettable film that is totally dependent on the last 10 years and 19 films to get any attention at all, with a lead actress that has the personality of particle board is really saying the most important group and the crowning cinematic achievement of the entire MCU got its name from Carol fucking Danvers. I could forgive everything else about the film, but that's horse shit.

 

[RockVolnutt]

The movie went from being a competent yet unremarkable hold-out until End Game to groan-worthy in literally the last two seconds of the film.

Spoiler: God Fucking Dammit

Fury's beginning to write up the "Protector Initiative" and gets handed Danvers' files. There's a photo that shows her call-sign is "Avenger".

This by-the-numbers, forgettable film that is totally dependent on the last 10 years and 19 films to get any attention at all, with a lead actress that has the personality of particle board is really saying the most important group and the crowning cinematic achievement of the entire MCU got its name from Carol fucking Danvers. I could forgive everything else about the film, but that's horse shit.

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Considering Ant-Man was around in the past of the MCU, couldn't they have just kept the "Avengers" name as something Janet van Dyne came up with? That seems like an odd change. It'd have to be an idea they were sitting on for decades for that bit of lore to still fit but I don't think it creates any issues.

 

[redcap]

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Considering Ant-Man was around in the past of the MCU, couldn't they have just kept the "Avengers" name as something Janet van Dyne came up with? That seems like an odd change. It'd have to be an idea they were sitting on for decades for that bit of lore to still fit but I don't think it creates any issues.

It's honestly something that needed no explanation other than 'it sounded cool'.

 

[PrincessHomura]

So the movie shits on the Skrulls, shits on the Avengers origin, shits on Nick Fury losing his eye and shits to an unbelievably horrible degree on Mar-Vell.

I expected nothing, yet I'm still disappointed.

 

[AnAccount]

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what if her callsign was bigdick.

Would fury have started the bigdick initiative instead?

 

[RockVolnutt]

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what if her callsign was bigdick.

Would fury have started the bigdick initiative instead?

It's funnier considering in the comics.....

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"I am putting together the CHEESEBURGER INITIATIVE"

 

[StarkRavingMad]

We never needed to learn the origins of the "Avengers" name, and we never needed to find out how Nick Fury lost his eye.

"The last time I trusted someone, I lost an eye." - Nick Fury, Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

This is ALL we needed to know. Part of Nick Fury's badassery comes from the mystery surrounding him. To quote a previous Marvel movie again, "He's a spy. He's THE spy." - Tony Stark, The Avengers.

So not only does this movie answer questions we never asked, but they answered them in the lamest, cringiest, most groan-worthy ways. It's on the same level of cringe as how the Solo movie revealed how Han got his last name. Unbelievable how Disney wants to keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

 

[Commander X]

The usual playbook is in effect, even as the word about Captain Marvel spreads, cordycepted nerds angrily pretend to enjoy their latest corporate identity politics propaganda film churned out from the Disney factory, primarily through lying about how white men hated it unfairly, like they did with Lady Ghostbusters which attracted the weirdest and angriest people to it's fanbase. "You GAMERGATE WOMAN-HATERS conspired to spread bad word-of-mouth about [insert film title here] and your collective CIS WHITE MALE INTOLERANCE and INSECURITY over having your WHITE MALENESS threatened is the ONLY reason the movie didn't TOTALLY SMASH at the box office!"

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

The usual playbook is in effect, even as the word about Captain Marvel spreads, cordycepted nerds angrily pretend to enjoy their latest corporate identity politics propaganda film churned out from the Disney factory, primarily through lying about how white men hated it unfairly, like they did with Lady Ghostbusters which attracted the weirdest and angriest people to it's fanbase. "You GAMERGATE WOMAN-HATERS conspired to spread bad word-of-mouth about [insert film title here] and your collective CIS WHITE MALE INTOLERANCE and INSECURITY over having your WHITE MALENESS threatened is the ONLY reason the movie didn't TOTALLY SMASH at the box office!"

I wouldn't hold out hope that this is going to come anywhere close to flopping, my man. I think it's more likely we'll see some YouTubers reveal that "insiders tol us this was supposed to easily outsell Black Panther! They're panicking and they're going to FIRE Brie Larson! And and they're re-editing Endgame so she gets less screentime! Oh and I' heard rumbles they actually illegally funneled money into CM screenings, so it just looks like it did well...".

Whether or not you like it isn't really the point, to actually sit here and insist an MCU movie is actually going to bomb is fighting a losing battle. The normies who fuel these things don't give a fuck about Rotten Tomatoes audience scores.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

My country is quite good at shooting down cheap attempts at SJW shit, and even recently had a very, very brief debacle about the stick figures on crossing lights being "male", because it's such a stupid concept that'd only float as a topic in NA.

That said, holy shit people are ripping this movie to shreds. They go "Wooh, something for girls!", then turn around and rate it 3/5. They recognize how cheap of a shot it is at giving girls something to pursue, but that's all it is. Hermione in Harry Potter was an idol to many girls but she never did anything amazing, let alone took up the spotlight. The whole idea of finding a personal hero is just that, not being fed it in a movie with their name in bold letters.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

It's funnier considering in the comics.....

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"I am putting together the CHEESEBURGER INITIATIVE"

Still thinking Ms. Marvel is a better character than Captain Marvel.