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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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making it incredibly unpalatable for them to remain, through things such as - like I’ve mentioned before - making them completely ineligible for any benefits or NHS care without at least a decade of tax and NI contributions.
one way to view it is that if you make it very unpalatable for them to stay (ie no bennies) they will chimp out, and then forced removal of the rest will be easier for the wider public to swallow. It's a step by step process

The Belgians are coming back to repay us for saving them in WW1 and WW2. Thank you waffle people. A rise in people smugglers leaving Belgium, due to the French police slashing boats and stepping up patrols, is causing all sorts of trouble for them.

Police chief calls for naval blockade to stop migrants reaching UK after surge in small boats leaving from Belgium

A tough-talking Belgian police chief has called for small boats leaving his country to be stopped by ‘a naval barrier’ to prevent them ever reaching the UK.

Speaking in response to the sudden increase in small boats leaving from Belgian resorts just over the border from France in West Flanders, Christiaan De Ridder said dinghies must not reach French waters.

Once out of Belgium’s jurisdiction, the French typically focus on escorting the vessels safely into British waters rather than intercepting them, even though they know they are illegal crossings often organised by criminal gangs.

The policy has caused increasing fury in the UK as the French are paid tens of millions of pounds to stop the boats while migrant numbers continue to spiral.

‘We have to stop them before they get to the UK. We have to find a way to stop them on the water.

'If we could put up a naval barrier so they don’t get into French waters, everything would stop,’ Mr De Ridder, Deputy Chief of West Flanders Police told the BBC.

His comments came as our exclusive pictures show a boat being loaded with migrants at Gravelines beach near Dunkirk yesterday with no French police in sight despite promises of increased patrols.

Last week, The Mail on Sunday revealed ruthless people- smugglers had switched some of their operations to Belgium to avoid the threatened increased French patrols.

Passengers include UK-bound migrants who embark in Belgium with others picked up across the border on remote stretches of the Hauts-de-France coast around Dunkirk and Calais.

Belgium’s no-nonsense approach to what is a relatively new problem for them has seen a wave of arrests virtually unheard of in neighbouring France as authorities clamp down.

Forty suspected smugglers and more than 360 migrants have been arrested since January, say Belgian authorities, while around 30 small boat crossings have been registered this year.

In one affluent resort, Middlekerke, which is around an hour’s drive from Calais, migrants have been seen running through the streets and on to the beach to board small boats, according to the BBC.

But Jean Marie Emmery, the Mayor of Dunkirk, refused to accept Belgium’s approach would work despite reports a nearby migrant camp was emptying out as migrants headed for the beach to take advantage of a calm day.

‘We don’t need that,’ he told Radio 4’s Today programme. ‘We need a change of the law. We need a change in Great Britain and in Europe and in Belgium and then it will stop.’

Meanwhile anger has risen over the large numbers continuing to make the journey despite the Government agreeing to pay France £660 million over three years to help curb the crossings.

Last week, some French police took decisive action and slashed a migrant dinghy on a beach near Calais, but the officers were then reported to a human rights watchdog for doing so. Such direct action is increasingly rare from French police.

It comes after it was reported yesterday that 200,000 have now crossed the Channel in small boats since records began in 2018.
It would have been so fucking easy for Keir to use the 'Russians' as a cover to step up Channel patrols and shoot anything that didn't speak English on sight. I think we'll see a lot more 'initiative', for lack of a better word, from individual police, like those Frenchies who slashed the boat last week and got reported for it, rather than wide scale changes. Individual mayors who don't want migrants in their towns, etc.
It's worth mentioning again that Belgium is already a 'diverse' country as it has a complicated constitution to give equal rights to both the Dutch speakers and French speakers, and they fucking hate outsiders. They tried to ban all single males entering the country a while ago (courts blocked and they ignored that) and get a fair bit of flak for denying all reception. Belgians (Walloons or Flemish) have a stronger sense of national identity and what is it to be a 'Belgian' and nationalism than say, the Dutch in Holland, or the Quebecois, because they had to fight for recognition and representation.
 
There’s been nothing but brown people in reform, does anyone ever actually look into any of these parties?
Yes? That's why Restore Britain is a party now. The only reason they didn't sweep the whole fucking election and people had to hold their nose and vote Reform is because it's still getting on their feet. Also, most of the Reform candidates with names like Smurkeet Surkadeek tended to lose anyway.
It might be a cope, but Rupert might actually be able to win this. The way I see it, the muzzies are inevitably going to make their own shit coated party after a massive green schism and that'll split the ethnics away from both labor and the greens.
 
So how long will it be before Farage drives Reform straight into the fucking ground now that it is moderately sucessful like every other political party he somehow becomes leader of?
See this is different, I'm of the belief that he wanted to join Reform, get enough votes to be a major thorn in the side of whichever party was in power and push for the overton window to go further right... but the response to the Axel R riots a few years ago basically got the entire country to go "you know what, fuck off" and reform went from potentially only getting 20-30 MPs in the next election to a potential landslide victory. The overton window is legitimiately further right than Farage probably even assumed would be possible for the British public to be at.

To top it off, there's a certain percentage of voting that you need to be seen as a legitimate party. Nobody wants to vote for the party that they 100% believe in if there's no belief that they will ever get a seat or win the election. The good polling numbers basically reinforced the Reform vote as ex-tories wondering who to vote for saw that their vote wouldn't be thrown into a black hole like it would if they voted for Restore etc.

Tories are dead, Labour under Starmer are dead, Greens might legitimately become the opposition party at the next election but might cannibalise enough Labour voters to see Reform squeak in areas that are heavily left. Nobody in politics seems to know what to think because we've seen more than 20 years of gradual change of public perception in like a year. It's one of the reasons why I don't think Starmer is leaving, even diehard Labour support realise that they don't want to become known as the last Labour PM in living memory. It's why nothing seems to be getting done in government because everyone is just holding onto their jobs, following the party line and making money because they'll be out of a job in 2 years.
 
I would carry it out town by town or well district by district. There are a lot of them, but remember a lot of them are seperated out. Additionally a lot of them are fat and retarded.

I cannot say what I would do, I think @Chunky Salsa gets the jist of it, and no I don't give a shit about their children. They would beat you to death if they had the chance. Just bonus points. Honestly deporting is too much of a nicety.
 
he ‘rounding up’ would have to be the most well planned and executed operation ever.
If you wanted to do it, in like...24 hours, yes? But as I said, you'd need at least a year to prep sites, and to get everything sorted, so that's a silly idea.

The fact that their numbers are huge and so widely dispersed, you’d have to have units strategically positioned at every major population centre, with the browns having no prior warning whatsoever - no leaks of information/strategy/time to prepare etc.
We would sometimes go door to door and tell people they were going to be arrested and relocated at X time, and they would nod along and then not leave. So we would go and arrest them, then we would hand them over to the government or America; and they would vanish. Some would get to go home, but America and the allied local government would often toss them in prisons and that'd be that. No rights of visitation, contact or legal defence.

They’d use vans, cars, IEDs, melee weapons, whatever weaponry they do have access to… they’d use babies, pregnant women, white women, elderly, whoever the fuck as ‘shields’… they’d barricade themselves into buildings, the estates and blocks of flats would be a nightmare… they’d have support from many native traitors who would stand beside them as well as untold outside fuckery providing them with whatever logistical support possible, so you’d need an adjacent operation to attempt to contain any of that.
This is farcical. They are not the zombies from WWZ. It is a fantasy what you have portrayed. People do in fact just wait to get rounded up. I've seen it with my own eyes. You can go into a mans house with a gun in some of the most militant areas and take him and his teenage sons out, zip tie them, black bag them into a truck and no one does anything. They don't even try to run. I get why this fantasy exists. You do not like the idea that if the government decided to liquidate you; you would let them. I am telling you, that you would. Your neighbour would go at 3am, and then the guy across the street; and you would still go to work and play it down to yourself. Because the government has said they are only taking 'criminals' or whatever other group they frame it as. Then when you get taken away at 3am, your other neighbour gets on with his life until it is his turn.
Look at what happened in Ireland, a load of rowdy Paddies with Libyan guns and homemade bombs, ‘won’.
You do not understand what Ireland was. It was us trying to occupy them and set up an allied government; not ethnically cleanse them. The irish militants were supplied from abroad with weapons, explosives and training. None of these are actually easy to get. The Irish could vanish into the local population because we were unwilling to simply remove the local population. But we could act with complete freedom in terms of raids, removals, and arrests. We killed thousands of Irish people in extrajudicial killings that everyone knew were going on; but still did not resist when it came for them. We are an island, you cannot go off to America or Libya for militant training, then return to the UK, if the island is closed off to browns entering.

I understand that the knee jerk is to say 'ah but the small boats'. The small boats are all seen, noted and then ushered ashore. The navy knows about them, the coastal service knows about them. They are on what is effectively a catch and release program, where they are rescued from the sea, taken to a local base and then set free like rapey hedgehogs.

The best possible scenario would be to make the exit routes for them as clear as possible, completely dismantle the legal machinery that currently prevents deporting them, and then facilitate their removal while making it law that they leave and making it incredibly unpalatable for them to remain, through things such as - like I’ve mentioned before - making them completely ineligible for any benefits or NHS care without at least a decade of tax and NI contributions.
Yes, absolutely. I completely agree. If we're taking the idea that the government is using the military to remove these people seriously, then these things will already be going on. What we are discussing is essentially a smaller scale version of what the Nazis did to their undesirables, except without the intent of massacring them.
‘Rounding up’ would not end well with deeply entrenched communities in large urban centres, if you’ve been in the army this should be obvious.
It is because you have not been in the military, that you think that this is obvious. I am not, nor was I suggesting that we human wave stalingrad soldiers into Bradford. But removing people piecemeal quickly adds up, those people don't fight back because they do not want to believe that it is happening to them. You can remove entire populations with very little force. We know this, we have done this. It happens all the time.
 
Ethnic cleansing is a nice idea and and all but I don't think I'd want it to actually happen, it's just a bit too Balkan for my liking.
Compulsory repatriation however is much nicer and bri'ish sounding, it's not as if the invasive species will even want to stay here if the environment is made hostile to them; just look how much of a fuss the previous policy of not giving undocumenteds free shit is lambasted as "the windrush tragedy" now, they hate it because it just works ™️. You don't have to shove people on trains to get rid of them, in fact I would argue it'd be downright inefficient.
It was us trying to occupy them and set up an allied government; not ethnically cleanse them.
That depends on which Ulsterman you ask :smug:
 
Honestly the biggest 'push' for removing immigration would simply to have a referendum on the death penalty. All of a sudden, every cuzzie, Arab and darkie will decide that France, Germany and other EU nations would be a better place to live in.
 
@Chunky Salsa We would sometimes go door to door and tell people they were going to be arrested and relocated at X time, and they would nod along and then not leave. So we would go and arrest them, then we would hand them over to the government or America; and they would vanish. Some would get to go home, but America and the allied local government would often toss them in prisons and that'd be that. No rights of visitation, contact or legal defence.

Are these ‘extraordinary rendition’ cases you’re referring to? You realise there was less than a hundred of those over multiple years don’t you? We’re talking about millions going.

Look at ‘far right fascist’ Meloni, who has been Italian PM for nearly four years and has barely managed to deport anybody. Claims to have stemmed the flow but has naturalised hundreds of thousands of previously illegal immigrants.

Look at the difficulty Trump, with a large mandate, has had with even basic bitch shit. Plenty of people previously ‘on board’ have pivoted to ‘yeah, I want less illegals but not like that’. This is another big issue that I’ll come to in a second.

CS: This is farcical. They are not the zombies from WWZ. It is a fantasy what you have portrayed. People do in fact just wait to get rounded up.

No, it isn’t. What do you think riots and civil disturbance are? Now scale those up massively to match the stakes. Places in London, Birmingham, Manchester, Bristol, Bradford - all the usual suspects - absolutely would violently resist the army arriving with the wagons, what are you going to do, shoot them? (Though we may all go: ‘Yes!’ It isn’t happening)

The army would move in, there would be ‘resistance’, some deaths would occur à la ICE in Minnesota and you’d then have a battle to maintain public appetite (this, too, brings me to the same big issue I’ll get to).

There’s been UK terrorist attacks just ‘because Quran’, never mind ‘they’re rounding everyone up, it’s the nazis, a fight for our lives’. Of course you’d be able to corral the elderly and some of the more docile fairly easily, but they absolutely have the numbers in many towns and cities to resist, hold out and cause problems for a long time, and the army doesn’t have the numbers required to break that without using lethal force.

Universities are one of the biggest industries in the UK, they’re completely captured, they’re ’resistance in waiting’. The NHS has a huge number of foreign employees and the adjacent white ones that consider them their ‘good browns’. Huge sections of both would come out for ‘the resistance’.

All this would come together to create disruption and ‘resistance cells’ that absolutely would use the methods I described if the level of force applied to them was proportional.

Your idea that they’ll all just resign themselves to their fate, that there’ll be no disruption to the process itself, and there’d be minimal forcible resistance is beyond fanciful.

CS: I get why this fantasy exists. You do not like the idea that if the government decided to liquidate you; you would let them. I am telling you, that you would.

I’m under no illusions as to my individual ability to resist ‘the government’, with their monopoly on the use of violence and ability to debank and unperson. Packs of niggers have certainly driven off armed police before though, because the arms are ultimately useless when they never use them, the groups needing removed have much greater community cohesion to resist being ‘liquidated’ than the fractured native population do.

CS: You do not understand what Ireland was.

I know Ireland was very different, my point was that it’s very hard to ‘defeat’ a highly motivated enemy and they fall back on irregular warfare, guerilla tactics and civil disturbance if you have the advantage elsewhere.

It’s interesting that your whole point rests on the British Army following the orders to deport, and doing so highly efficiently, with force if necessary, and then you mention the fact that they’re the ones bringing the boats safely here and releasing the animals onto the public. Do the people currently doing that need replacing then?

CS: But removing people piecemeal quickly adds up, those people don't fight back because they do not want to believe that it is happening to them. You can remove entire populations with very little force. We know this, we have done this. It happens all the time.

Where does it happen all the time? China maybe, sort of. Where else is ‘removing entire populations with very little force’ all the time?

Once the first wave happens, the word is out and the resistance kicks in, we’ve seen this in America. The UK doesn’t have the framework in place for it’s own Gestapo and the intelligence agencies they do have are globalist-minded and captured.

The key issue I refer to above is that of the media. Before any of this could happen, the media would have to be dealt with, China/Russia style. The media controls the minds of the masses and the hysterical appeals to emotion if we got anywhere close to mass deportations would be insane. So if we want any of this to happen, we would have to figure out how that could occur. They control the narrative, the ‘state of play’, the ‘vibes’. They are anti-white and globalist-minded, literally global media companies. They must be brought to heel and filled with people on side, or it could never happen.
 
In the case of Bradford I'm assuming these are candidates who don't even bother to have a party, they just have a paki name and know the pakis will vote for them?

"Vote for me because of my Paki name".

....people had to hold their nose and vote Reform is because it's still getting on their feet. Also, most of the Reform candidates with names like Smurkeet Surkadeek tended to lose anyway.

"Don't vote for me because of my Paki name".
 
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I'm overall fairly satisfied with my local election results and how London voted. I won't powerlevel by revealing exactly where I'm based, other to say it's not Havering (who are welcome to leave London and rejoin Essex as they keep making noise about it) and it's not Tower Hamlets (gutted that Aspire have clung on there).
 
Long story short, the entire world likely won't be the same between 2026 and 2066 and the current status quo likely won't be intact by then.

It takes 40 years from 2026 before any violent takeover can happen by this pace, but depending on situation it can happen faster than that.
Won't happen. We've already won,
 
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I'm overall fairly satisfied with my local election results and how London voted. I won't powerlevel by revealing exactly where I'm based, other to say it's not Havering (who are welcome to leave London and rejoin Essex as they keep making noise about it) and it's not Tower Hamlets (gutted that Aspire have clung on there).
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