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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Bloom Worm Cross Field said:
The absolute gall of that uppity bitch going on about "I don't consent to being filmed" as if her own countrymen and community consent to what she's helping to do. There'll probably be a "sexual emergency" or two in that batch that some poor local woman or girl won't consent to.
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Everyone in this thread was against me a few pages back when I said I was glad that some fat pink-haired woman got killed for working as a hotel cleaner in one of these invasion hotels by one of the invaders, and I stand by what I said.
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I hope this stupid bitch also gets a screwdriver stabbed in her neck after a consent accident occurs between her and one of the refugees she's helping bring here.
 
Lighter note.
Kenny Everett and benny hill are on an obscure terrestrial TV (71 that's Christmas) channel most nights.
If you want to see how happily sexist and racist white Britain used to be but weren't even a sperm back then tune in.
 
The Gene Genie said:
I've been seeing a lot of talk on Twitter about Starmer's possible involvement with the Southport attack. Doesn't seem really concrete to me, but does anyone here know more?
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teriyakiburns said:
The rumour is that, while working as a human rights lawyer in 2003, he helped alphonse rudakubana (the southport stabber's dad) claim asylum and avoid deportation. It hasn't been verified yet, but the timeline is close. If it's true, then it means Starmer is directly responsible for the entire chain of events unfolding, which might offer an alternative explanation for why he was so heavy-handed in his response to the riots.
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from the start it’s been obvious that there is something about the family that does not bear close scrutiny:
Otterly said:
Here’s a scenario. Purely fictional of course but this is what the gossip on FB Rwanda is
The father is either a genocidaire or part of the RPF killing machines militia. After the genocide and around the time of the trials for it he is demobbed and sent to the uk. The younger boy has severe mental issues and perhaps converts to Islam, then stabs children.

If the fact the father has a very dodgy background and the son was either mentally unstable and raised by a genocidal killer or a Muslim convert, you have about the most incendiary mix you probably can.

Rwandan diaspora facebook is implying the father was a child soldier and now is a spy. No idea of the truth of any of what they say but if you go poking round Rwandan social media you’ll find it
Why were the family here in 1996? It makes no sense with timelines at all. Unless perhaps he was RPF, or sent here deliberately.
If it was simply that they fled the initial genocide, and he had mental health issues, we’d be being shown sad pictures of the genocide and being told about generational trauma and how we need to let a few million more in.
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If they had fled the initial genocide, the media would have been told to run with that angle. There would have been wall to wall documentary re runs on how awful it was. We’d have been chided for not having sympathy for such a traumatised family.
The genocide was a quite short lived thing. It happened in early 1994 for just a month or two. And yes it was terrible - so this family came over in 1996. By then the killing had stopped for well over a year and things were safe again.
Multiple genocidaires were given leave to remain in the uk and various parts of Europe: here’s a few in the uk.
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Five men who took part in the Rwandan genocide are living here and will never face justice.
https://archive.is/Czb8N
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WHY those men were allowed here is never made clear. They are very likely mass killers.
What I want to know is why this family came here. If starmer had a role in it, uh oh! No wonder he’s looked like a sweaty, blinking bit of boiled ham the last few months. For such a blackout to occur means it’s something interesting. Someone must know.
Editing to add in the nail article insisting nuffink to see here https://archive.is/uEW5w
But I think there IS something to see and I think it’s intelligence based
 
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Otterly said:
If starmer had a role in it, uh oh! No wonder he’s looked like a sweaty, blinking bit of boiled ham the last few months. For such a blackout to occur means it’s something interesting
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While I'll be not entertained but morbidly amused to be wrong I don't think there's a direct Kier connection. The problem is there is a direct migrant connection and these days Labour are the party of more migration and that's a growing issue for them.

I suspect the more likely explanation is that as part of this lot's acceptance into the UK there might have been some stuff sealed. Maybe relating to the Rwandan genocide, maybe something else. Whatever it is though will mean there is a limit on what can be reported on even after the case resolves. If on top of that the killer has priors which I suspect he will, even if it's lesser criminality, then post trial there might be some even more serious outrage when people demand to know why a killer with prior crimes is getting anything about his history still kept from the general public, especially if it relates to the family's immigration status. "Migrants allowed into the UK under a veil of secrecy only for their offspring to flip out and murder kids" is going to play badly when Labour is pro-migrants and Kier is a former legal sort so involved in the sort of decisions that allowed this.
 
Those five men who were given leave to remain were very probably key architects of the genocide - they had a lot of evidence on them, it wasnt just hearsay. So while you can argue innocent until proven guilty, the likelihood is that we let five mass killers stay in our country.
Who were the Angolans kier defended? Were they actually Angolan? Remember this was mid nineties in Africa and it was chaos. Papers for identity would be very easy to create. The allegations swirling round the Rwandan social media were that his dad was a child soldier in the RPF killing machines militia and then involved somehow with intelligence.
The family did not flee the initial genocide as far as I can see. They came here 1996? Genocide was over by mid 1994. The RPF killings were after that. There are multiple pictures of him back in Rwanda as a child and teen in the Stockport thread. They still have ties and spent time there.
Kier was director of public prosecutions from 2008, but he was clearly involved in processing Rwandan genocide era cases - his name is right there.
Why was the father allowed here? Who are the wider family? Is there a connection to anaclet rudakubano?
 
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They came here 1996?
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According to the Karate article he came here in 2002 but had been elsewhere before as it says he had done his karate in 3 countries. https://www.southportvisiter.co.uk/sport/other-sport/alphonse-gets-wants---after-9480939.amp

Seen someone share this case and it seems very family to the Dads story of being a child solider not got Kiers name slapped on it but wouldn’t be surprised if there was many like this. This was an appeal denied but we know that means absolutely nothing in this country. Since they just reapply repeatedly. https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/38254
 
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Something which could be very relevant to this is the timeline of what happened after the Rwandan Genocide, specifically that following the defeat of the Hutu government by the Rwandan Patriotic Front in 1994 up to 1 million Hutu fled into the far Eastern territory of neighbouring Zaire, now called the Democratic Republic of Congo, in what became known as the Great Lakes refugee crisis. This number included civilians fearing Tutsi backlash as well as thousands of actual perpetrators of the genocide ranging from machete wielding bush militiamen all the way up to senior government figures and military officers.

The crisis continued until the Rwandan army invaded Zaire to support the Congolese rebel group AFDL as well as to capture Hutu fugitives that had since militarised many of the refugee camps, an event which kicked off the First Congo War.

Now to bring this back to the topic at hand, want to guess what year the AFDL and Rwandan army seized control of Eastern Zaire and dismantled the Hutu camps? That's right, 1996.
 
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While I don't think Kier is directly linked to the dad, it still highlights a greater point. Why was this guy even allowed into the country in the first place? He par took in the genocide for sure, there's no way he didn't and claiming refuge status would have been out of the equation with what he had done since he would have been a war criminal (pretty sure we hold then deport those). Even hiding that would have come up during a background check.

It's highlighted a greater issue that these human rights lawyers are willingly bringing these people over and making them our problem. If it is not the person they bring over then it appears it just ends up being their kids who do it.

The killing of those kids was no random occurrence as there's simple no way he didn't notice what his kid was doing. He grew a beard and at 17 started buying the materials needed to make ricin, sort of get the feeling he should have noticed.
 
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But I think there IS something to see and I think it’s intelligence based
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This is the conclusion I've reached as well. If it was something personally embarrassing to Two-Tier, I wouldn't expect the entirety of the British state to cover for him, because they'd also suffer when the truth came out. The Speaker and the courts would only act like this if there was a national security angle.

So maybe it's that the UK offered asylum to the father in return for him snitching on his fellow genocidaires, with the press either ignorant or D-Notice'd. Now that the son has proven himself to share his father's proclivities, it'll be tough to keep the family history under wraps.
Effectively the policy would have been making the UK more dangerous in return for making Abroad safer, and people are absolutely going to be pissed off at that.
 
Tragon Dirtle said:
The defense tried to use his downward spiral of porn use as a reason to lessen his sentence, but it didn't work.
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Yeah that's a shit argument. They're arguing their client is degenerating further and further into sicker and more dangerous acts. If anything that's an argument for a bullet in his head, not leniency.
 

Windsor fucking Castle got infiltrated by carjackers, what the hell is this country coming to?
 
Rusty Metal Skull Gun said:
I wouldn't expect the entirety of the British state to cover for him, because they'd also suffer when the truth came out. The Speaker and the courts would only act like this if there was a national security angle.
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My Occams Razor is this:
  • Why did the British state mobilise to suppress information about the killer?
Because the killer was a black, 2nd-gen African immigrant, and anything that brings Tier One into disrepute is "counter-revolutionary" in the eyes of the state.
  • Why did the family come here in the first place?
Because we let fucking anyone in. Even prior to 1997 it's not like we were an island fortress.

On the "Starmer worked to get a genocidaire into the UK" theory: While the timing is suspicious, in that the father claimed asylum around the time of the genocide trials, the father doesn't match the phenotype of a Hutu (the genocidaire side of the conflict). The document showing Starmer giving legal aid to an unnamed Rwandan does not match the details or time of the father's asylum claim. The theory would be an extremely juicy twist if true, but it seems to be based on unfounded twitter speculation, and it's not required in order to explain why the state tried to suppress the killer's identity, lie about it not being terror-related, etc.

Also, while I hate to run cover for immigrant murderers with "they had family just like you or me", it's worth remembering that while Axel was always a known psychopath at his school, his brother (the wheelchair one) was, by all known info, a normal, relatively high-achieving guy.

I could always be missing some other developments that have passed me by though.
 
Bloom Worm Cross Field said:
  • Why did the British state mobilise to suppress information about the killer?
Because the killer was a black, 2nd-gen African immigrant, and anything that brings Tier One into disrepute is "counter-revolutionary" in the eyes of the state.
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He was making ricin though, and they hushed that up - why? That's not a privilege they give to any old Tier 1 citizen.
Normally the police and security services love it when there's news of a foiled Islamic terror plot, because it's easier for them to get funding.
 
I want to know why the kid radicalised. I think the stuff about the Dad, while interesting, is a smokescreen for the real information.

How does a rawandan genocider-wog's sprog turn religion of peace and alluh ackbar?
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
I want to know why the kid radicalised. I think the stuff about the Dad, while interesting, is a smokescreen for the real information.

How does a rawandan genocider-wog's sprog turn religion of peace and alluh ackbar?
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Because the religion of peace offers extreme solutions and ways of thinking that appeal to the young/low iq/those who feel like outsiders.

And because you can’t go 2 metres outside in any town centre in any European country without running into the fuckers and their stands and their free books and friendly conversations, and I’d imagine it’s much the same online. They are such a disease.
 
Howslans said:
Because the religion of peace offers extreme solutions and ways of thinking that appeal to the young/low iq/those who feel like outsiders.
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It's the current flavour of revolutionary unrest that's popular with da yoof innit, used to be they'd LARP as Soviets and rob a bank or maybe join a Jacobin club and start chucking bombs at elected officials if it's the 19th century but these days if you're a swarthoid and anngy for whatever reason the answer is Muslamic Rayguns.
 
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