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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

How does a rawandan genocider-wog's sprog turn religion of peace and alluh ackbar?

I've been on the Farms long enough that my autismdar is blaring. I suspect that the Religion of Peace was his hyperfixation.

 

[f4t2h7gc]

Admittedly, the only evidence (AFAIK) that he was affiliated with Islamism so far was the presence of the digital copy of the Al-Qaeda training manual.

It's a data point to be sure, but so are the uncertainties about his family background in relation to the Rwandan genocide. It may be nothing, more information is needed - but setting expectations, this might be a fog of war issue that will never be fully understood. I can't imaging tracing records back nearly 30 years ago in a relatively unstable East African nation to be an easy task. It certainly isn't likely to merit the investigative funds of a current-year journalist. There is a risk of hampering investigations with misdirection like what happened to the Nicola Bulley investigation. Worth bearing in mind if nothing else.

 

[Monopolywheel]

Admittedly, the only evidence (AFAIK) that he was affiliated with Islamism so far was the presence of the digital copy of the Al-Qaeda training manual.

It's not the only evidence
Tommy Robinson, who was at the same jail as the stabber claimed he attended the local prison mosque

 

[Special spoonie]

It's not the only evidence
Tommy Robinson, who was at the same jail as the stabber claimed he attended the local prison mosque

I’m not really much of a Tommy fan but admit he’s useful in the war on migrants. Hasn’t he been crying via his admins that he needs to be kept in isolation so he doesn’t get shanked by an Islamist? Not really sure how he would know too much.

 

[f4t2h7gc]

It's not the only evidence
Tommy Robinson, who was at the same jail as the stabber claimed he attended the local prison mosque

Fair enough, but it's worth waiting for confirmation from other sources. Mr Robinson has the tendency to soak up whatever information suits his current viewpoint without corroborating anything. He's been right before, but I'll wait for secondary confirmation.

 

[FedPostalService]

I’m kinda predicting the government will use South Yorkshire police to smash the farmers. This time they’ll use pronouns rather than the truncheons they used to smash the miners.

 

[AssignedEva]

It's a data point to be sure, but so are the uncertainties about his family background in relation to the Rwandan genocide. It may be nothing, more information is needed - but setting expectations, this might be a fog of war issue that will never be fully understood. I can't imaging tracing records back nearly 30 years ago in a relatively unstable East African nation to be an easy task. It certainly isn't likely to merit the investigative funds of a current-year journalist. There is a risk of hampering investigations with misdirection like what happened to the Nicola Bulley investigation. Worth bearing in mind if nothing else.

This is part of the reason Hutus were granted asylum; initially moderate Hutus who were being persecuted for objecting to the genocide or being insufficiently genocidal. During the post genocide period, the Tutsis did engage in reprisals against the Hutus. Around 2,000 Hutus were being arrested per month without charge on the suspicion of being genocidaires, held in inhumane conditions, while the Rwandan court system slowly powered up. This included both innocent Hutus and also genocidaires.

The UK refused to extradite accused genocidaires to Rwanda on the grounds that Rwandan was not sharing their evidence for these accusations, and there was a suspicion they'd be denied the right to a fair trial. So it's likely (if not certain) that some people who actively participated in the killings have indeed been granted asylum in the UK (and Keir was QC on some of those cases, from what I've seen, although no evidence he ever worked with Alphonse or indeed that Alphonse ever had to go down that route). We can't tell if they're Hutus or Tutsis based off of surname as Rwandans don't follow the same naming conventions (it's something like their surname doesn't pass down, everyone gets a unique surname when they're born; a bit like Bangladeshis).

 

[Otterly]

We can't tell if they're Hutus or Tutsis based off of surname

Just a random little thing, but worth a thought. They used ID cards to plan who to kill. For example patients in a hospital had their id cards checked and if you were Tutsi it was onto the kill list.
Anyway, not terribly relevant to the thread, but… Something I always think about when our fair and balanced government demands lists, databases and IDs. There are rarely nice reasons to be put in a list.
As you were

 

[FedPostalService]

Just a random little thing, but worth a thought. They used ID cards to plan who to kill. For example patients in a hospital had their id cards checked and if you were Tutsi it was onto the kill list.
Anyway, not terribly relevant to the thread, but… Something I always think about when our fair and balanced government demands lists, databases and IDs. There are rarely nice reasons to be put in a list.
As you were

ID cards are coming. I remember a blow up on twitter where a charity was trying to get a gay guy cancelled for pointing out that their demand that the NHS have a list of gay people for preferential treatment to give health advice was stupid as lists like them have always been used by tyrannical governments if they take charge to kill people. They’ve been pushing for this since Blair was in charge.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

ID cards are coming.

We have them. It’s called National Insurrence Numbers. Like the whole ‘implementing mark of the beast’ crazies’when we already have phones that track and record everything. If they really wanted to start targetting people they could. What they lack is the consent to do it. Not the tools.

 

[FedPostalService]

We have them. It’s called National Insurrence Numbers. Like the whole ‘implementing marl of the beast crazies’ when we already have phones that track and record everything. If they really wanted to start targetting people they could. What they lack is the consent to do it. Not the tools.

You’ve gone a bit freeman-on-the-land there.

 

[Otterly]

What they lack is the consent to do it. Not the tools.

They also lack the functioning IT system to. Which is one time we should all thank the good lord for making the government unable to run any kind of massive public infrastructure project without fucking it up.
See: NHS e records, track and trace etc ,

 

[AssignedEva]

Just a random little thing, but worth a thought. They used ID cards to plan who to kill. For example patients in a hospital had their id cards checked and if you were Tutsi it was onto the kill list.
Anyway, not terribly relevant to the thread, but… Something I always think about when our fair and balanced government demands lists, databases and IDs. There are rarely nice reasons to be put in a list.
As you were

That's already in through the back door thanks to ID requirements for voting and the creation of the "photographic voter authority certificate".

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Even hiding that would have come up during a background check.

Who do you go to in africa for a background check? the rwandan DBS? We have the immigrant background check problem in the US in 2024, it'd be neigh impossible to get done in the 90s especially during a conflict.

 

[Otterly]

Just inserting this post, I just randomly remembered his 5aside page I found at the time had an Angolan flag.

Good spot. Worth pointing out as well that the borders dont mean so much now in many ways and they sure as hell didn’t in the 90s. The conflict that was in Rwanda spilled over into a couple of neighbouring countries and has been going on in one form or another ever since. The first and second Rwanda-Congo wars, the M23 group and the current conflict there all relate back to the problems in Rwanda. It’s a massive, hideous and brutal conflict, oh and the whole area is simply fantastic for rare minerals and loaded with natural resources so there’s money to be made from all the suffering.

There is something very shady being hidden. There’s no other conclusion.
If they were simple genocide refugees we’d know, we’d be beaten over the head with it. If there was nothing more to hide it’d be pitched as ‘look, the terrible genocide trauma is generational, have sympathy.’
It was hushed and hidden, there is something about this lads family that’s going to expose something very nasty indeed

 

[A-Logato]

Who do you go to in africa for a background check? the rwandan DBS? We have the immigrant background check problem in the US in 2024, it'd be neigh impossible to get done in the 90s especially during a conflict.

They did and still do background checks on niggers from the darkest parts of Africa and turning those away with questionable inconsistencies (or we used to at least).

How do you think we get all of those "doctors and nurses" from Nigeria? We ask them for a contact still in the country, have them prove the connection and then decide if it checks out with what was declared upon entry to the country and then let them in. If we don't have a contact then we just check compare what they said when they showed up and what their saying now. The care sector in particular is full of these lying nigs.

If anything for Rwanda during the 90's it would have been as easy as a DNA test.

 

[Mound Dweller]

Worth pointing out as well that the borders dont mean so much now in many ways and they sure as hell didn’t in the 90s. The conflict that was in Rwanda spilled over into a couple of neighbouring countries and has been going on in one form or another ever since. The first and second Rwanda-Congo wars, the M23 group and the current conflict there all relate back to the problems in Rwanda. It’s a massive, hideous and brutal conflict, oh and the whole area is simply fantastic for rare minerals and loaded with natural resources so there’s money to be made from all the suffering.

/k/ has some excellent gestalts for anyone curious, if you haven't read these a few dozen times already you're missing out;

Spoiler: deep unga bunga lore

It's a bit more boring these days because sadly competents like Kagame have been keeping it together, but they're getting old now and World War Africa 3 could pop off at any time and will be unrivalled /k/ino when it does.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

They did and still do background checks on niggers from the darkest parts of Africa and turning those away with questionable inconsistencies (or we used to at least).

How do you think we get all of those "doctors and nurses" from Nigeria? We ask them for a contact still in the country, have them prove the connection and then decide if it checks out with what was declared upon entry to the country and then let them in. If we don't have a contact then we just check compare what they said when they showed up and what their saying now. The care sector in particular is full of these lying nigs.

If anything for Rwanda during the 90's it would have been as easy as a DNA test.

Vetting "I am a doctor" is different from "I am not a criminal and certainly not a militiaman who chopped my victims arms off and ate their hearts". I doubt UK/US immigration officere are calling police stations in !tseboko, rwawadana asking if Jonathan Goodluck has a criminal record.

 

[f4t2h7gc]

Was it the UK government who used stacked Excel spreadsheets organized using columns instead of rows as a database for COVID records? I remember there being a story where a bunch of data was lost because of some quirks with how Excel handles rows and columns.



Not a great track record with technical competence in issues that matter.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I’m not really much of a Tommy fan but admit he’s useful in the war on migrants. Hasn’t he been crying via his admins that he needs to be kept in isolation so he doesn’t get shanked by an Islamist? Not really sure how he would know too much.

It’s very simple. Not everyone on the inside is against him.

They also lack the functioning IT system to.

That also.

But knowing incompetence, even if we did have the systems, they’d still manage to f it up.

Still amazes me that the NHS can’t get fuctioning systems.

Which is one time we should all thank the good lord for making the government unable to run any kind of massive public infrastructure project without fucking it up.

While true I’m convinced if the systems worked they wouldn’t need to. Majority of our issues is because the Gov is retarded.