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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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So I am probably late and gay, but what happened with all this "Starmer will be forced to step down" talk from a while ago?

Starmer found some balls and told them something like:
You force me to step down? Ok, I will step down, AFTER I call a snap election, and then all you faggots will lose your seats too.

Then everyone sat down and shut up ?
It's even simpler. Starmer probably just said "And which law would you invoke to force me to?" Or in more blunt terms: "you and what army?" Labour has no mechanism to remove a sitting PM. Neither does Parliament.

As far as I can tell, the only real way to force him to step down is a VONC, and that itself is a nuke that forces a snap election which Labour evidently do not want.

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It's a government founded NGO - a QUANGO - Called the behavioural insights team. They manage the situation when it happens so that therr's no breaking from the message that racism is the ultimate evil. When they don't go along, the media simply doesn't platform them.
I see, are they forced to comment? Are not commenting or being silent unavailable options?
 
The other way Starmer can be removed is through the Labour Party's process for challenging incumbent leaders. This requires any prospective candidate to gain the public support of 20% of all Labour MPs, as well as 2 affiliated trade unions, and if the party leader wishes to defend their position they can. The party membership then votes on who they want the leader to be.

The problem the rebels are having with this process is that at the moment none of them have 20% of the MPs supporting them (Starmer's people were briefing yesterday that Streeting only had half the supporters he needed to actually challenge, which is why he didn't), and on top of that none of the current MPs who might challenge are convincingly more popular with the membership than Starmer is. Survation released a poll yesterday for LabourList showing that only Burnham (who is not currently an MP) would clearly beat Starmer. Rayner and Milliband would beat him but it would be close, and Starmer would thrash any other candidate including Streeting.

So everyone is now waiting for this by-election in Makerfield. If Burnham wins, he is expected to immediately challenge Starmer and unless something extraordinary happens he will be the next party leader and PM. If Burnham doesn't win, then it's a crapshoot.
 
So everyone is now waiting for this by-election in Makerfield. If Burnham wins, he is expected to immediately challenge Starmer and unless something extraordinary happens he will be the next party leader and PM. If Burnham doesn't win, then it's a crapshoot.
The upside is that this is throwing a giant spanner in the legislative agenda. Very little will get done while all this wrangling is ongoing.
 
I have a question for you.

Everytime you see some victim of a stabbing or a murder in UK, I see parents or family members saying racism is bad, diversity is good, we need to tackle knives, etc.

I believe this is not an organic response, and it is pushed on these family members by the police or some goverment agency? Or they censor themselves? But then why don't they refuse to comment?

I remember reading that even US had such thing before Trump got into power.

Do you have knowledge about this phenomenon?
They’re called something like the community relations unit . There has been an article about them on here but I can’t find it. Behavioural insights is the nudge unit. Perhaps they are bedfellows
 
I have a question for you.

Everytime you see some victim of a stabbing or a murder in UK, I see parents or family members saying racism is bad, diversity is good, we need to tackle knives, etc.

I believe this is not an organic response, and it is pushed on these family members by the police or some goverment agency? Or they censor themselves? But then why don't they refuse to comment?

I remember reading that even US had such thing before Trump got into power.

Do you have knowledge about this phenomenon?
Hopefully @LXXVII Brigade can shed some light on this for you
 
I see, are they forced to comment? Are not commenting or being silent unavailable options?
The dividing line between "pressure" and "force" is not a clear one. Especially when it comes to vulnerable people victims of recent crime. If they're really saying stuff that the State doesn't want them to say and wont be dissuaded, then de-platforming would be expected. There are sexual assaults and murders every day in the UK. How many of them reach national media? It's been said that the idea the media controls what people think is false, but that it's very good at controlling what they think about. If there are two murders, and one family is staying on message, who do you think gets the cameras?

But really my main point is my first point. You ask about "force" but at what point do you decide that pressure has become so much that it counts as force? You have to keep in mind that our own government knowingly turned a blind eye to the mass rape of over a thousand girls, some as young as 11, over decades... rather than let people legitimately point out that the perpetrators were overwhelmingly Muslim and Pakistani. That the other week three police officers took a 15 year old boy who had committed no crime, broken no law, manhandled him to an iron railing and drove it through his jaw... and the vast majority of the country has heard nothing. And they have also built it into society that most people are terrified of being thought racist. Legitimately so - you can lose your job, friends, family, if you say anything that can be taken so. A woman was imprisoned for merely saying that she wouldn't care if a migrant hotel burned down. You're asking a lot of an ordinary working family who may have just lost someone, to go against everything the British state can and will marshal against them. I suggest re-reading that list of things I put above to your original question. It's effective stuff. Wasn't some guy arrested for saying that Alex Rudukabana was a Muslim, early on? They locked that down hard.
 
They’re called something like the community relations unit . There has been an article about them on here but I can’t find it. Behavioural insights is the nudge unit. Perhaps they are bedfellows

Increasingly, victims of these killings will be family of people who are already aware of the dangers posed by immigration/other cultures. So while I can see how easy it has been up to now to manipulate grieving families in shock, it's going to be a lot harder to do that with people who are suffering from an event they already felt was inevitable. And who are possibly surrounded by people that they have already shared those fears with.

How much harder will it be to get into the ear of someone and convince them that they must be careful not to provoke hate against certain communities, when you already feel that community shouldn't be here. And even if they manage to twist you enough to be unsure, what happens when they go and your brother/friend/neighbour comes around and says how right you were in everything you said before?
 
And even if they manage to twist you enough to be unsure, what happens when they go and your brother/friend/neighbour comes around and says how right you were in everything you said before?
I seem to remember the family of the girl who was one of the three people stabbed by some immigrant background crazy in Nottingham (grace someone) didn’t play along and had their support officer (who they liked) removed.
There’s clearly a lot of pressure on families when they’re in a very vulnerable state. The media will not be allowed to signal boost anyone who isn’t playing the right tune and there will be all sorts of subtle and not so subtle pressure.
It’s also very hard to find information on these groups, they are clearly, actively, removing stories on them
 
It's called 'don't look back in Anger'. Any resistance to your child being stabbed to death and you don't start singing and dancing about how GREAT DIVERSITY IS will be met with force.

The Keir refusing to resign memes are endearing me to him. Nearly all the comments on clips from that Mussolini show are referencing Starmer. All heil Queer Starmer.
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It is interesting, because you hear very little from any families in the UK who haven't toed the line. In Ireland, Ryan Casey, whose fiancée was murdered in 2022, is very clear on immigration policy being to blame and has been roundly attacked by the mainstream media and online left. But if anything, I think it's had the opposite effect, as the attacks are so vile against a man that has a so many people's sympathy.
 
⚠️ Beware, if you attend the UTK protests tomorrow, you're going to get fucking raped ⚠️

Starmer has Tweeted out to threaten the British public that if they dare attend the UTK protests tomorrow, they will 100% ruin your life as revenge for doing so. The police are very evidently going to be agitating this event big-style, they are going to come down incredibly hard and crack heads at any given opportunity. Some highlights from the video include shots of the AIDS-patient looking faggot police commissioner, Sir Mark Rowley and Starmer looking at CCTV footage together in London.

Attend with caution, Kiwibros.

Source: https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2055255787560141269
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Some choice words from Dominik Tarczyński, a member of the European parliament who was barred from entering the country for this event:
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The tweet:
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The text:
“I’ll always champion peaceful protest. But the Unite the Kingdom march organisers are peddling hatred and division.

We’ve already blocked visas for far-right agitators who want to come here to spew their extremist views.

They don't speak for the decent, fair, respectful Britain I know.”

The translation:
“I’ll sometimes champion peaceful protest, but not this one (and if it is peaceful I’ll use my traitorous undercover police to ensure it’s not). The UTK patriots are going against the globohomo one world government replacement migration agenda, and I can’t have that because they own me (you should see the brand! you’ll never guess where it is!).

We’ve banned people from coming to this country who talk about our attempted destruction of the native population, and still these patriots persist.

I will make sure that you all end up with beige mongrel grandchildren with no pride in or allegiance to anything but blind consumerism, chemical self harm and willful ignorance.”
 
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He's never made such a Chairman Mao level video like that has he?@
Pretty sure he's done a few of them, including one last year when xher clitty leaked over the last UTK protest. Twitter is a fucking nightmare to navigate right now so I can't find the post, but he has a thing for these "Father knows best" style speeches condemning anyone who's remotely right-leaning, where he comes across as the most condescending cunt imaginable. Just watch any Starmer speech regarding "the far right" and you'll know what I mean.
 
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