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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Reform winning the by-election would genuinely be the funniest fucking thing ever.

Everyone in Labour loses. Burnham loses because he gets his political career wiped out in one swoop. The Labour coup loses because if not Burnham, who the fuck could take on Starmer? And Starmer himself loses because if a popular Mancurian gets absolutely slaughtered in a Manchester seat then every fucking Labour MP is about to get their poo pushed in by Reform.
 
Reform winning the by-election would genuinely be the funniest fucking thing ever.

Everyone in Labour loses. Burnham loses because he gets his political career wiped out in one swoop. The Labour coup loses because if not Burnham, who the fuck could take on Starmer? And Starmer himself loses because if a popular Mancurian gets absolutely slaughtered in a Manchester seat then every fucking Labour MP is about to get their poo pushed in by Reform.
And in the meantime, every tax payer faces a greater burden due to the interest on our debt increasing.
Everyone loses as government goes into stasis. Although if it slows Milliband's crazy docterine down a bit, perhaps we benefit there......
Anyone with a mortgage potentially loses as interest rates increase due to the instability caused by their incompetence.

In his 5th July 2024 victory speech following the general election, Keir Starmer pledged to govern with the principle of "country first, party second".

It's like the classic Fools and Horses, when Del Boy is talking to Mickey......can you smell that ? I can always tell when you're lying.......


 
Interesting to note that Josh Simons was the director of Labour Together for a couple of years before election in 2024 and sits about as far to the right of labour as you can get.

He was directly involved with the undeclared donations shenanigans and recently resigned all his ministerials posts because of it.

I'm not sure if he's still a close ally of McSweeney and Kier, but I wonder if he's chosen to resign to potentially embarrass Burnham by giving him perhaps the hardest to win seat.
 
His type only ever reign in their genuine disdain and hatred of the other side when they want to try and be sly. It's always performative.
You know, you're right. I just watched his last video, and while it's mainly berating Labour to "get their shit together", (which, to be fair, they probably should) he still feels the need to drop in a thing about "unless Labour sets out a vision, people will believe the lies of the right".

Like, what lies? You know, I drop my son off at school and it's filled with pakis and Africans. Are the "hard right" lying about that? I shop at the supermarket and it's got a halal meat section, and I'm offered a Ramadan special, are they lying about that? I walk to the tube station and I pass a mosque that used to be a church. Are they lying about that??

Man I'd have to be deaf and blind not to see this shit.
 
You know, you're right. I just watched his last video, and while it's mainly berating Labour to "get their shit together", (which, to be fair, they probably should) he still feels the need to drop in a thing about "unless Labour sets out a vision, people will believe the lies of the right".

Like, what lies? You know, I drop my son off at school and it's filled with pakis and Africans. Are the "hard right" lying about that? I shop at the supermarket and it's got a halal meat section, and I'm offered a Ramadan special, are they lying about that? I walk to the tube station and I pass a mosque that used to be a church. Are they lying about that??

Man I'd have to be deaf and blind not to see this shit.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
 
He had a good take after Brexit (maybe calling people we disagree with bigoted gammons isn't the best approach). But I've watched lots of his videos since then and it's a bit sad how he basically seems to have gone back on that.
He also had a short spiel in 2016 about how the Left had caused Trump by not listening to people and instead just slandering them. There's been glimmers of awareness at times from either him or his writing staff.
One could conceal the names of the accused without banning full reporting. So clearly they're trying to suppress the the general backgrounds of the accused. Ethnicity, country of origin, something like that.
We all know at least one of them has the very traditionally English name "Muhammed".
 
Dainty southern poofter hands typed this post. Pie barms are manna from heaven in miserable weather (which is all weather in Wigan because it's a miserable shithole)
Oh no. Please don’t start the ‘what do you call a bread roll’ debate again…

(A pie batch sounds fucking amazing though, not gonna lie)
 
Hate to hand the UK a W, but it seems the UK is setting a precedence to cut off Palantir mid-term for their Govenrment awarded contracts. The pain point seems to be that their platform sucks (duplicates entries and doesn't integrate well with existing data systems) but also its refusal to not reuse the data for its own purposes and the uncertainty whether UK Citizen data will be exfiltrated outside of the country. This is unlike several other contracts with local governments (London, Dorset), which apparently have these restrictions in place.
The main project that called the re-evaluation of Palantir as a supplier, was a program in which UK citizens could sign up and volunteer to host Ukrainian Refugees in their homes. Of course "NO REFUNDS SUCKERS LOL" applies to the situation and active contracts worth upwards of 220 Million Bongs (not only related to this project) will be left unserviceable. Still possibly a preferable outcome.

tl;dr - Rare Anglo W, Big Palantir L. Globohomo big mad.

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I genuinely have no issue whatsoever with Palantir getting their grubby hands on UK infrastructure as it should be blatantly obvious to even the public themselves who haven't seen government/police/nhs databases that they're an absolute fucking mess.

If you get a tummy ache when you're in a town 20 minutes from where you live and (yes this is hypothetical, you'd never actually get one) get a doctors appointment, that doctor has no way of accessing your medical history on the fly. Granted, this level of incompetence has probably saved everyone's NHS data from leaking 40 times over, but it's 2026 for fucks sake, surely a database that only registered doctors could access (not Stacy in reception) can be possible. "B-but actually this surgery wants the buttons to be here not there so we can't do th..." SHUT THE FUCK UP AND EITHER USE THE FUCKING SYSTEM OR HAND IN YOUR FUCKING NOTICE.

Then there's the other public sector shit. Every single person here who knows someone who works for the police or civil service or local government etc. will have probably heard them whine about a new fucking system coming into place that's set to replace the old one but ends up having teething issues so both systems run concurrently until they try and work out what the fuck to do. If Palantir manages to create a system that can import JohnSmithCV.doc from the previous system into something that doesn't end up screwing it up into ARCHIVE-22984757019357.dcn then they can use whatever fucking data they want, they've earned it.

A streamlined despazzing of government databases would genuinely benefit everyone, but then unfortunately that'd mean that public sector workers would have no excuses for not being able to do their work so no wonder the laziest retards you know are mad about palantir.
 
So I am probably late and gay, but what happened with all this "Starmer will be forced to step down" talk from a while ago?

Starmer found some balls and told them something like:
You force me to step down? Ok, I will step down, AFTER I call a snap election, and then all you faggots will lose your seats too.

Then everyone sat down and shut up ?
 
I have a question for you.

Everytime you see some victim of a stabbing or a murder in UK, I see parents or family members saying racism is bad, diversity is good, we need to tackle knives, etc.

I believe this is not an organic response, and it is pushed on these family members by the police or some goverment agency? Or they censor themselves? But then why don't they refuse to comment?

I remember reading that even US had such thing before Trump got into power.

Do you have knowledge about this phenomenon?
 
A streamlined despazzing of government databases would genuinely benefit everyone
Especially those in power.

Palantir are a known evil. When the counter arguments begin with "if Palantir can..." then you're accepting a definite negative in return for a promise.

Also, the UK services are planted thick with data protection laws. I know, and you probably do too, that any new system by Palantir would be a new top layer on top of everything that had extremely permissive access and just sucked up everything. It's the only way that Palantir could "import JohnSmithCV.doc" into some integrated system.

It's a bad idea to sacrifice liberty for security. But to sacrifice it for government efficiency is a pipe dream.

EDIT: Also worth noting that this very story is about Palantir being ditched because their system was bad. They replaced it with something developed in-house. "In-house" is a dirty word in modern industry and in government, but in my experience, it is often the only thing that works right.
 
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Saw a news story from Torrevieja in Spain which detailed that a Columbian man beat his ex-girlfriends cat to death on 27th April. He was arrested for animal cruelty, and that he did so to inflict psychological harm on the woman. He was initially released on bail.

On 13th May he was in court where he was found guilty of both offences, and was told to pay €1000 in compensation to his ex.

He was told that he was to be deported back to Columbia (he is wanted by authorities there) and sent straight to the detention centre to be sent back. And he has been barred from entering Spain for 10 years.

So 15 days from arrest to being held in a deportation centre. Swift justice.
 
So I am probably late and gay, but what happened with all this "Starmer will be forced to step down" talk from a while ago?

Starmer found some balls and told them something like:
You force me to step down? Ok, I will step down, AFTER I call a snap election, and then all you faggots will lose your seats too.

Then everyone sat down and shut up ?
Something is happening on that front, just not very fast as Starmer is refusing to go down without a fight. His Health Secretary resigned yesterday so there is definitely some open discontent amongst his Cabinet ministers. Pressure to oust him does seem to be growing as well.
 
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If Palantir manages
Yes, and this specific story is that they did not manage, despite even having another contract before this one just for scoping and testing.
And this also then went to other sections of Government to then say "Actually this doesn't work for us either" or is at least implied from freezing the contracts and spokespeople saying they are looking for "alternative solutions" and "purpose-built projects".

Keep in mind, Palantir's ultimate business model is to collect, aggregate and sell PII. The platforms it creates to do data processing, are meant to collect your data. The "Data processing" for its intended purpose, is actually a secondary thought.


That is aside the fact that Palantir CAN offer to not collect and exfiltrate government info and still do so anyway.
 
I have a question for you.

Everytime you see some victim of a stabbing or a murder in UK, I see parents or family members saying racism is bad, diversity is good, we need to tackle knives, etc.

I believe this is not an organic response, and it is pushed on these family members by the police or some goverment agency? Or they censor themselves? But then why don't they refuse to comment?

I remember reading that even US had such thing before Trump got into power.

Do you have knowledge about this phenomenon?
A "liaison officer" is assigned to you. I have no first hand experience of this but I imagine whilst you're still grieving and in shock, and still viewing the police as your a source of stability and guidance in this chaotic and suddenly new experience, the liaison officer is quick in there with:
  • If you say the wrong thing it might help the bad person get off.
  • Bad people are going to try and exploit your tragedy by making it about race, so head that off.
  • If you say something negative about _______, it's going to tarnish your / the victim's reputation.
  • "We're on your side and protecting you from the press, Say this and it will help."
Or if they need to get more explicit, they can always hint that they'll be less helpful if the family or victim doesn't play along, hint at charges for hate speech, hint that "racial motivations" might sink their case / saying the right thing will help it.

Some of this may seem weak sauce but these are people in a state of shock experiencing a horrible situation they are unfamiliar with and the police represent authority. And if all else fails, look at the case of the poor lad further up whom they drove an iron fence spike through his jaw and then stonewalled any complaints and tried to suppress the video of the attack on the lad.

On 13th May he was in court where he was found guilty of both offences, and was told to pay €1000 in compensation to his ex.
That's a small amount, imo, for someone murdering a pet cat to get at the owner. But then any financial amount would be, imo. There's something wrong with a society where the law thinks everything can be assigned a monetary value. Public flogging would be a start. Still, glad some countries are willing to actually deport people, I suppose.
 
I have a question for you.

Everytime you see some victim of a stabbing or a murder in UK, I see parents or family members saying racism is bad, diversity is good, we need to tackle knives, etc.

I believe this is not an organic response, and it is pushed on these family members by the police or some goverment agency? Or they censor themselves? But then why don't they refuse to comment?

I remember reading that even US had such thing before Trump got into power.

Do you have knowledge about this phenomenon?
It's a government founded NGO - a QUANGO - Called the behavioural insights team. They manage the situation when it happens so that therr's no breaking from the message that racism is the ultimate evil. When they don't go along, the media simply doesn't platform them.
 
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