Captain Marvel - Literally, from "her" to "hero"

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Are you actually going to watch this flick?

  • No

    Votes: 74 17.0%

  • Fuck, no

    Votes: 177 40.7%

  • Not in cinemas

    Votes: 81 18.6%

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 9.2%

  • (((Yes)))

    Votes: 20 4.6%

  • Twitter told me I must, I can't say no, you white-cis-sexist-oppresive scum!

    Votes: 43 9.9%
  • Total voters
    435
BoomerDenton said:
P.S. this may be false, but I saw a picture of supposed Endgame concept art of Captain Marvel being choked out by Thanos. Fingers crossed.
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That's sexist and illegal fam, smdh.
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Here's a question if it hasn't already been asked in this thread: Would you have rather seen a Kamala Khan movie?

I think despite being an obvious token she's still a better character than (Post Civil War) Danvers. Granted the bar for character quality is buried under six feet of loose dirt.
 
Shitassdeaddude said:
Here's a question if it hasn't already been asked in this thread: Would you have rather seen a Kamala Khan movie?

I think despite being an obvious token she's still a better character than (Post Civil War) Danvers. Granted the bar for character quality is buried under six feet of loose dirt.
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To be honest, yes.

But only if she was a actual likeable character and the identity politics crap is kept to a minimum, relating to her being a Muslim. And of course have fun with her abilities rather than just use the stupid big hands all the time because that's kinda boring.
 
BoomerDenton said:
To be honest, yes.

But only if she was a actual likeable character and the identity politics crap is kept to a minimum, relating to her being a Muslim. And of course have fun with her abilities rather than just use the stupid big hands all the time because that's kinda boring.
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How annoying the woke bits would be depends on who the director and writer are. Marketing would still be obnoxious either way.

Best case scenario would be her as a sort of reconstruction of the idealist superhero, A sort of breath of fresh air after all the dark shit that's gone down lately. Like a fangirl that gets her own superpowers and dives into heroing thinking it's all going to be sunshine and CGI fights. She learns being a hero is actually fucking hard and dangerous, but powers through it anyway because she thinks it's the right thing to do.

They touched on it with Peter in Civil War/Homecoming but I feel like they mostly shoved that aspect of his character aside in favor of his budding father/son relationship with Tony.
 
Shitassdeaddude said:
Best case scenario would be her as a sort of reconstruction of the idealist superhero, A sort of breath of fresh air after all the dark shit that's gone down lately. Like a fangirl that gets her own superpowers and dives into heroing thinking it's all going to be sunshine and CGI fights. She learns being a hero is actually fucking hard and dangerous, but powers through it anyway because she thinks it's the right thing to do.
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That's what a normal person would like, so Marvel won't do that. More likely she'd never actually be in any danger other than risking hurt feelings from white guys being mean to her on account of her gender, skin colour, or religion. She'd then get some inspirational words, ideally from an old black lady, which'd inspire her to do something. She'd then be validated by everybody for being great.

As with Captain Marvel, it'd replace the traditional hero arc (rise, fall, rise again) with a largely flat line with a few almost invisible dips. I reckon the ship has sailed on a Ms. Marvel film. Captain Marvel rode the Avengers train, so big budget stuff is out of the question. Ms. Marvel is Sana Amanat's sole claim to creative accomplishment, and it'd be a bit awkward for that character to be the first MCU bomb. Also kind of ironic if she'd bomb.
 
PantsOfDesire said:
That's what a normal person would like, so Marvel won't do that. More likely she'd never actually be in any danger other than risking hurt feelings from white guys being mean to her on account of her gender, skin colour, or religion. She'd then get some inspirational words, ideally from an old black lady, which'd inspire her to do something. She'd then be validated by everybody for being great.

As with Captain Marvel, it'd replace the traditional hero arc (rise, fall, rise again) with a largely flat line with a few almost invisible dips. I reckon the ship has sailed on a Ms. Marvel film. Captain Marvel rode the Avengers train, so big budget stuff is out of the question. Ms. Marvel is Sana Amanat's sole claim to creative accomplishment, and it'd be a bit awkward for that character to be the first MCU bomb. Also kind of ironic if she'd bomb.
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Oh yeah, no they won't go with it in this day and age. Maybe before 2014-15 but now? Nah. Hence why I said "best case scenario."

They'd also put a hijab on her at some point in the movie.
 
Oh my god, that Unicorn Store movie looks like garbage. The cringe ...

I'm all about hobbies and everything, but goddamn. This movie is your stereotypical SJW millennial bullshit about how to remain infantile.

"UGH I'm a 30 year-old woman with a steady job. WAH WAH WAH! My life is so horrible!" Fascinating, Brie. Just fascinating. lol.
 
The point of that first Kamala Kahn run was how she didn't act like a "stereotypical Muslim", that was entire reason they had Nia behave the way she did, Where's all this "they'd fill it with identity politics and put her in a hijab!" handwringing coming from? Unless the new writer drastically changed her character that seems like the exact opposite of what to expect.
 
PantsOfDesire said:
That's what a normal person would like, so Marvel won't do that. More likely she'd never actually be in any danger other than risking hurt feelings from white guys being mean to her on account of her gender, skin colour, or religion. She'd then get some inspirational words, ideally from an old black lady, which'd inspire her to do something. She'd then be validated by everybody for being great.

As with Captain Marvel, it'd replace the traditional hero arc (rise, fall, rise again) with a largely flat line with a few almost invisible dips. I reckon the ship has sailed on a Ms. Marvel film. Captain Marvel rode the Avengers train, so big budget stuff is out of the question. Ms. Marvel is Sana Amanat's sole claim to creative accomplishment, and it'd be a bit awkward for that character to be the first MCU bomb. Also kind of ironic if she'd bomb.
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If they go down that route then the movie will probably be unpopular or just be seen as weird by most of the GA. And again, this isn't taking into account a possible loss of interest after Endgame (a gradual loss of interest not an instant dip) in the MCU, which unless the X-Men/Fantastic Four somehow prevent, it's honestly inevitable.

Black Panther, which I didn't like, felt competent, I can see people enjoying it. But if they did a Kamala Khan movie in the woke SJW style of today, it would be seen as boring and people would probably not care much to see it, unless it ties into some amazing overarching story like Captain Marvel supposedly did.

And tbh that's one thing I don't get, why sacrifice a good fun movie to make a boring preachy snoozefest when you at the end of the day want to make money? That to me just seems utterly moronic. Sure I get they want to push some PC agenda, but why can't they make it entertaining so people actually want to see it over and over again. It's common sense.

"Normal people will like this? Fuck that, make it for a minority of tumblr/extreme college weirdos who don't speak for most of the population just so we look virtuous".

Da fuk.
 
I don't know if this is off-topic, but my roommate and I just came back from Shazam and he said that he liked it better than Captain Marvel. It was both funny and scary (at some points) with a proper story arc for Billy throughout and an actual theme. Zachary Levi hit it out of the park as Shazam who acts like a kid trapped in an adult body and I quite enjoyed Mark Strong as Sivanna. Your mileage may vary, but I will refrain from spoilers until the wide release or until another Kiwi spoils it. Whichever comes first.
 
The MCU won't do Kamala Kahn. Plain and simple.

You'd have the Fox News people claiming they're creating pro-Islamic propaganda, and you'd have the SJWs saying they're depicting a "white washed" version of Islam (if they accurately followed the comics, that is). Nobody would be happy with the movie, lol.
 
KillThemCrackasBabies said:
The point of that first Kamala Kahn run was how she didn't act like a "stereotypical Muslim", that was entire reason they had Nia behave the way she did, Where's all this "they'd fill it with identity politics and put her in a hijab!" handwringing coming from? Unless the new writer drastically changed her character that seems like the exact opposite of what to expect.
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Now that is true. Like with Miles, Kamala was fortunate enough to debut before Marvel did their weird nose-dive into constant virtue signalling. That really started with JaneThor. That being said, it would be a script written by someone hired by Disney, not her original writer.
 

I'm not watching the video, nor do I know the contents, but I will use it to bring up a topic about Captain Marvel I haven't seen discussed here. 4Chan CO has been pretty much taken over by Tumblr since as far back as I can remember and one thing they do a lot is make Carol dedicated threads where they ship her with her best friend Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman). In the comics, they're just friends. Nothing more, nothing less. You can find discussions on the topic sprinkled everywhere comics are discussed. They have a dedicated shipping fanbase that goes autistic when anyone pops their little "they're lesbians" bubble. Here are just some examples of stuff you can find:

ComicVine - https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...an-and-ms-marvel-in-love-with-each-o-1461599/
Archiveofourown - https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Carol Danvers*s*Jessica Drew/works
FanLore - https://fanlore.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers/Jessica_Drew
Tumblr - http://carolandjess-blog.tumblr.com/
Tumblr 2 - https://caroljessshipevents.tumblr.com/

And the fanart, the bad looking fan-art:
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