Captain Marvel - Literally, from "her" to "hero"

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Are you actually going to watch this flick?

  • No

    Votes: 74 17.0%

  • Fuck, no

    Votes: 177 40.7%

  • Not in cinemas

    Votes: 81 18.6%

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 9.2%

  • (((Yes)))

    Votes: 20 4.6%

  • Twitter told me I must, I can't say no, you white-cis-sexist-oppresive scum!

    Votes: 43 9.9%
  • Total voters
    435
StarkRavingMad said:
I can't believe that the whole narrative of "Disney is lying about CM's box office numbers!" is still being pushed by some of these anti-SJW channels. There is no proof or evidence of such, and pictures of "empty theaters" on Twitter don't mean a damn thing.
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The channels want clicks, and the idiots who still care this far out just desperately want to not be wrong.

The movie definitely exceeded my expectations with its box office numbers, whether I like it or not
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Yeah same, I thought talk of it hitting a billion was some bullshit but it's looking more and more likely it might hit it.
 
To anyone who’s a MCU fan, not to be a angry cunt to you all, but you do all realize with the Disney/Fox merger completed, you get to have the X-Men in the “not-guaranteed” film in the MCU at the cost of 5,000 jobs cut, the number of major studios being reduced to five, and Disney taking 40% of the box office now, right?
 
Godzilla@1989 said:
To anyone who’s a MCU fan, not to be a angry cunt to you all, but you do all realize with the Disney/Fox merger completed, you get to have the X-Men in the “not-guaranteed” film in the MCU at the cost of 5,000 jobs cut, the number of major studios being reduced to five, and Disney taking 40% of the box office now, right?
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Sure but the same would also have been true of a Comcast takeover which was initially considered but rejected because they would control too much of the media. Same for Sony. Any company taking over Fox studios would have cut costs and reduced jobs, that's just business. I don't think we can paint Disney as the devil for simply doing something that almost any other company would do in this situation.

Don't forget that Fox are making serious gains in this deal too. Murdoch maintains control of the news side, which has always been his favourite, splitting it up may allow him to finally buy SKY and they also get a 25% stake in Disney, including streaming. If you're Fox, and you look at how your films are doing, verse how Disney's films are doing, and you can let them do all the hard work while you still make bank on it, you'd kinda be foolish to turn your nose up at it. I mean, Fox don't give a rats ass if the X-Men are part of the MCU, so long as they make money.
 
iRON-mAn said:
Don't forget that Fox are making serious gains in this deal too. Murdoch maintains control of the news side, which has always been his favourite, splitting it up may allow him to finally buy SKY and they also get a 25% stake in Disney, including streaming. If you're Fox, and you look at how your films are doing, verse how Disney's films are doing, and you can let them do all the hard work while you still make bank on it, you'd kinda be foolish to turn your nose up at it. I mean, Fox don't give a rats ass if the X-Men are part of the MCU, so long as they make money.
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What I'm worried about is that their R-rated stuff will be under marketed compared to their MCU films. Also keep in mind that starting now and even if after Disney no longer owns them, 20th Century Fox themselves would no longer be a major studio and at best a Lionsgate-like mini major.

The fact that nobody in the entertainment industry didn't do anything to stop this is appalling. I'm for one furious with the geek-media outlets for focusing on the X-Men and not on the potential issues the merger would bring.

Also, I may sound delusional, but given to how I think that Marvel Studios influence Netflix and other non-traditional film companies to make entertainment companies, I could see Netflix benefiting from this merger that could hurt theaters.
 
Godzilla@1989 said:
What I'm worried about is that their R-rated stuff will be under marketed compared to their MCU films. Also keep in mind that starting now and even if after Disney no longer owns them, 20th Century Fox themselves would no longer be a major studio and at best a Lionsgate-like mini major.

The fact that nobody in the entertainment industry didn't do anything to stop this is appalling. I'm for one furious with the geek-media outlets for focusing on the X-Men and not on the potential issues the merger would bring.

Also, I may sound delusional, but given to how I think that Marvel Studios influence Netflix and other non-traditional film companies to make entertainment companies, I could see Netflix benefiting from this merger that could hurt theaters.
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They won't disband 20th Century Fox. It'll remain, under the Disney umbrella, pumping out it's own films because it has name brand recognition that Disney will want to maintain. They'll release the R-rated stuff through that, basically creating a separation between the brand of 'Disney' and 'r-rated'. They'll just have two studios for two different things. It doesn't even matter that Fox isn't a major studio anymore, it has a history and legacy that people won't just forget and Disney isn't going to erase that, they're going to use it to make even more money.

You realise this is their foothold into the r-rated section? For so long they've steered away from it, not wanting to tarnish the Disney image, and yet some of the best received superhero movies in recent memory were Deadpool and Logan. You don't think Disney saw that and wanted a piece? By buying Fox and letting Fox make the R-rated movies they get their cake and eat it. They get to keep Disney PG AND make money from R-rated films.

No one did anything because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, and it won't largely change the landscape of film. MGM used to be a massive player in films and look at it now, pieced apart and sold off, and the world kept turning.
 
Godzilla@1989 said:
The fact that nobody in the entertainment industry didn't do anything to stop this is appalling. I'm for one furious with the geek-media outlets for focusing on the X-Men and not on the potential issues the merger would bring.
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I believe the larger issue is that Comcast owns Universal and AT&T now owns Time Warner. Both telecoms are much larger than Disney, and the Mouse's main impetus for acquiring 20th Century Fox is to make their library larger in order for their streaming service to compete with the big boys IIRC.
 
I saw this boring movie this weekend with a group of people. The only positive reaction came from the only woman (a lesbian). She commented how much she liked seeing a lesbian relationship in a big movie -- that's how she read the black chick and Carol's relationship. The rest of the group could hardly muster up a collective "meh."

Now I'm a big comic fan, I've known about the character for decades, and she's almost always been unappealing. Her 00-era Ms. Marvel series had some upsides but ever since she's been hoisted up as Captain Marvel, there hasn't been a single appealing or interesting story with her in it. She's always depicted as a bitch that can take care of any situation, while paradoxically being oppressed in someway by the patriarchy. Awful stuff.

The movie itself was garbage. They ruined the Skrulls by turning them into pussy refugee analogs, cutting the legs out from any future stories using them. Plus they looked like crap. Why the fuck did they never shapechange, other than to look like other people? The fight scenes certainly could've used something interesting. The Kree, formerly pink and blue, now have black people (yes, I know Korath was in GotG but that was stupid and pointless)? And not just black people, but black people with blue skin along with the black-skinned blacks!? Ronan was a total putz ("Oh, there's a glowy chick. Let's leave immediately! But we'll be back later!" and then never comes back), they squandered anything with Mar-Vell, Fury was a goofy chump, Coulson looked like a wax doll, etc etc etc.

Thumbs way down.
 
So I popped in to book some tickets at the cinema for my mother and her friend as I was about Pillockville today.

My local cinema is showing Captain Marvel five times a day solid.

Want to know which film they've been booking out to the point people were being turned away from this afternoon's showing?

This:

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A British Comedy film about the Fisherman's Friends group out of Port Issac in deepest, darkest Cornwall.

The staff were wearing Captain Marvel T-shirts as uniform but reported nobody's really bothering with the film. The last time there was a decent Marvel flick (Black Panther and Infinity War) they were having to put on extra showings. This time? They're keeping the five-a-day in case it picks up again this weekend, but it ain't looking good.
 
TchPiKinmup said:
I saw this boring movie this weekend with a group of people. The only positive reaction came from the only woman (a lesbian). She commented how much she liked seeing a lesbian relationship in a big movie -- that's how she read the black chick and Carol's relationship. The rest of the group could hardly muster up a collective "meh."

Now I'm a big comic fan, I've known about the character for decades, and she's almost always been unappealing. Her 00-era Ms. Marvel series had some upsides but ever since she's been hoisted up as Captain Marvel, there hasn't been a single appealing or interesting story with her in it. She's always depicted as a bitch that can take care of any situation, while paradoxically being oppressed in someway by the patriarchy. Awful stuff.

The movie itself was garbage. They ruined the Skrulls by turning them into pussy refugee analogs, cutting the legs out from any future stories using them. Plus they looked like crap. Why the fuck did they never shapechange, other than to look like other people? The fight scenes certainly could've used something interesting. The Kree, formerly pink and blue, now have black people (yes, I know Korath was in GotG but that was stupid and pointless)? And not just black people, but black people with blue skin along with the black-skinned blacks!? Ronan was a total putz ("Oh, there's a glowy chick. Let's leave immediately! But we'll be back later!" and then never comes back), they squandered anything with Mar-Vell, Fury was a goofy chump, Coulson looked like a wax doll, etc etc etc.

Thumbs way down.
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I take it your lesbo friend was also a Voltron fan?
 
Godzilla@1989 said:
To anyone who’s a MCU fan, not to be a angry cunt to you all, but you do all realize with the Disney/Fox merger completed, you get to have the X-Men in the “not-guaranteed” film in the MCU at the cost of 5,000 jobs cut, the number of major studios being reduced to five, and Disney taking 40% of the box office now, right?
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You realize people can like the MCU and simultaneously hold the opinion that Disney gobbling up every studio in Hollywood is a bad thing, right?
 
Absolutego said:
You realize people can like the MCU and simultaneously hold the opinion that Disney gobbling up every studio in Hollywood is a bad thing, right?
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Well you will like the MCU until they go down hill, then you will be beginning they never did.
 
BoomerDenton said:
Well you will like the MCU until they go down hill, then you will be beginning they never did.
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Yeah my only concern about the Fox acquisition as the MCU is concerned is that the X-men are so naturally suited for more woke marketing controversies I'm worried they'll surpass Singer's attempts to crowbar gay analogies into his movies.

"Have you tried not being a mutant?"
 
One Man Bland said:
I would argue that ScarJo is serviceable to decent when she’s given an actual character with material to work with, but the problem is she tends to stick to generic stoic action girls that simply come off as wooden.

Though frankly I can’t say I’d be excited for any solo movie for any of the female characters the MCU has on roster. Gamora might be the most interesting, but considering her most interesting development tends to revolve around her relationship with Thanos it would likely be either stakeless or redundant. People arent wrong when they say most of Marvel’s best female characters are X-Men.
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Black Widow solo movie would need a team up. Like Blackwidow / Deadpool. She would need someone to play off of. If you wanted a solo movie, I have no idea who thought Captain Marvel was a good idea. When Ms. Marvels claim to fame is being killed by Rogue, who most would consider a more interesting character. And Captain Marvel's costume basically looks like a ripoff of the modern Captain America outfit. Which makes her look even more bland.

Agent Carter started off promising, then devolved into an SJW from 2010 being trapped in the 1940's. She whined about sexism, threatened guys who were chauvanists with murder. Then the next scene she was using the very stereotypes she claimed to be fighting to get ahead in the spy game. So she just came off as a whiny hypocritical ass.

Ironically most of the well known female characters in Marvel came from the X-Men, Rogue, Storm, Psylocke. She-Hulk might be viable, because it might be interesting having a giant green Amazon lawyer doing court cases as a storyline. Invisible Woman would be a no go, since they practically shot that franchise in the face.

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