Myanmar Civil War - (formerly Burma's)

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Background
Myanmar became independent in 1948 (at the time, the country’s official English name was Burma), but for most of the time since then it has been under military rule. The military took power in a coup in 1962 and stayed in power amid insurgencies and civil protest against military rule over the next several decades. In the wake of unrest in 2007 as well as international pressure, a draft of a new constitution providing for civilian rule was ratified in 2008. The document was to take effect after a new bicameral legislature, named the Assembly of the Union, was elected, which occurred in 2010.

In spite of the provision for a transition to civilian rule, the military still held considerable power, having written the 2008 constitution in a way that allowed it to hold at least 25 percent of the legislative seats, control who could be appointed to head the three most important ministries, and appoint at least one of the three vice president posts from which the president was elected. Furthermore, the military had written into the constitution what some commentators had dubbed the “coup clause” or “coup mechanism in waiting”—essentially, articles in the constitution that would allow the president to declare a state of emergency and hand power to the military. The military also had considerable economic power, having formed two conglomerates in the 1990s, comprising various domestic businesses and joint ventures with foreign firms, that dominated Myanmar’s economy and proved to be a lucrative source of income to the military in general as well as to individual military officers and their families.

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Thein Sein, a former general who had retired in 2010, led the newly formed and military-aligned Union Solidarity and Development Party (USDP) to contest the legislative elections that were held in 2010. The party per,ormed well, and he was elected president of the new government in 2011. The relationship between the military and civilian government largely held during Thein Sein’s term as president, but strains began to show after the country’s first truly free and fair elections, held in 2015, ushered in a government led by noted dissident Aung San Suu Kyi’s National League for Democracy (NLD) party, which had vastly outperformed the USDP. As a constitutional provision prohibited Aung San Suu Kyi from serving as president, a different NLD member succeeded Thein Sein. But Aung San Suu Kyi was soon named to the newly created and powerful state counselor position, which left the military incensed. The relationship between the head of the military, Senior Gen. Min Aung Hlaing, and Aung San Suu Kyi was uneasy.

Senior Gen. Min had been due to retire in 2016 but delayed it for five years, ostensibly to provide continuity for the transition to the NLD-led government. He was known to have presidential ambitions for after his retirement, possibly in part because of the considerable and lucrative business interests of the military; he himself had accumulated quite a bit of wealth and was thought to want to protect his financial interests.

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Prelude: the 2020 election
The country’s next parliamentary election was held in November 2020. The NLD won a clear majority of seats in both legislative chambers, gaining more seats than it had won in 2015, while the military-aligned USDP saw its number of seats decrease—which rankled the military as well as eliminated Senior General Min’s chance of being elected president as the USDP’s candidate. The USDP and the military rejected the results, alleging that the election had been tainted by fraud and irregularities, and called for the polls to be rerun. The electoral commission rejected these claims, saying that there was no evidence of fraud or irregularities widespread enough to have affected the outcome of the election; the commission’s stance was supported by the observations of international and domestic election monitors. The military also asked the government to delay the opening of parliament, scheduled for early February, but the government rejected the request. In late January 2021 Senior General Min warned that the constitution could be revoked if laws were not being respected or followed, a statement that alarmed observers.

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Coup
On February 1, 2021—the day that parliament was scheduled to meet for the first time since the election—the military seized power. Pres. Win Myint, Aung San Suu Kyi, and other NLD members were detained, and Myint Swe, a former military officer who was the military-appointed vice president, became acting president. He immediately invoked articles 417 and 418 of the constitution, declaring a one-year state of emergency and handing control of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government to the commander in chief of the armed forces: Senior General Min, who claimed that the military takeover was necessary because of the alleged unresolved electoral irregularities and because the request to postpone the opening of parliament had not been heeded. He promised to hold new elections at the end of the state of emergency and to hand power over to the winner. The next day, the State Administrative Council was formed, with Senior General Min as chairman, to handle government functions during the state of emergency. On August 1 the State Administrative Council was replaced by a military-led caretaker government with Senior General Min named as prime minister, and the state of emergency was extended until August 2023.

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Aftermath
The coup was widely condemned on the international stage, and there was opposition to the military coup within Myanmar as citizens held large protests and engaged in acts of civil disobedience. A shadow government—the National Unity Government—was formed in April in opposition to the military’s administration, and a loosely organized armed resistance emerged in the following months. The junta responded harshly to both peaceful protests and armed resistance. Over three years after the coup, the political upheaval and ongoing fighting had left the country in a humanitarian crisis and the economy in dire straits.

Interestingly the civil war has disrupted an economic corridor to China. link
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Some interesting docs about Myanmar today:
The lawlessness has created a ripe opportunity for industrial-scale cyber scam operations:
 
I find it interesting that this hasn't been covered by any news or politicians here in America.
Aung San Suu Kyi was a cause celebre for various human rights watch groups in the US off and on for many years. I seem to recall her being put on house arrest on an island in the middle of a lake and an activist swam out to meet with her. But, she said and did nothing about ethnic cleansing against Rohyinga Muslims and that led to a lot of denouncements directed at her.

She got busted again by the junta and is in prison currently.
 
Aung San Suu Kyi was a cause celebre for various human rights watch groups in the US off and on for many years. I seem to recall her being put on house arrest on an island in the middle of a lake and an activist swam out to meet with her. But, she said and did nothing about ethnic cleansing against Rohyinga Muslims and that led to a lot of denouncements directed at her.
If the past year if not the past 20 years has taught us anything, it's that followers of the Muhammadan death cult are incapable of living peacefully with non-Muhammadan's unless they fear the Kufir. So odds are more than likely the Rohingya pulled some dumb shit that brought this trouble on themselves, and Aung therefore perfectly justified in not giving a shit.
 
It's a messy situation with multiple ethnic rebel groups involved, making it less about a goverment change with bullets as votes and more like an empire falling apart.
 
It's a messy situation with multiple ethnic rebel groups involved, making it less about a goverment change with bullets as votes and more like an empire falling apart.
Overthrowing the Junta won't solve anything since fighting them is the only thing holding the rebel factions together. If the Rebels win, I expect Burma to swiftly become the Somalia of South Asia.

Not an outside possibility Winnie the Xi and the Poojeets start to get involved.
 
If the past year if not the past 20 years has taught us anything, it's that followers of the Muhammadan death cult are incapable of living peacefully with non-Muhammadan's unless they fear the Kufir. So odds are more than likely the Rohingya pulled some dumb shit that brought this trouble on themselves, and Aung therefore perfectly justified in not giving a shit.
I remember this shit from like a decade ago. Muslims from outside the country were invading, raping, stealing, murdering, and attacking monks. So they monks started defending themselves and neighbors. Then the British media started running damage control for the muzshits, started accusing the Buddists of running a campaign of genocide, the rest of the western media started piling on, and here we are.

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For what it's worth the Military government has been negotiating ceasefires with a few large ethnic militias/armies recently

Oh and they've finally decided that combat drones are a good idea




Also, the military junta isn't continually losing either after 3+ years of war.


This is going to go on for a long time and Myanmar will probably split into ethnostates run by China and India and a fire run by the military. Those ethnostates will probably be military/militia dictatorships
 
According to this article, the Myanmar opposition was invited to a seminar in New Delhi to meet with the Indian Foreign Minster last month, which is unprecedented. Makes me wonder if this will turn into a China-India proxy war.
I doubt it. The remnants of the kuomintang maintained a presence there for decades, funded by drug trade and CIA glowniggery, but nothing much ever came of that.
If they didn't manage to turn this neverending conflict into a full-blown war, the pajeets won't either.
 
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The SAC is back! The Tatmadaw has recaptured a few towns in recent weeks, something that had not happened for some time.

Here's how the map looked like at the beginning of July:
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This month, the Tatmadaw reconquered Moebye (near Loikaw) against the KNDF, Nawnghkio (near Pyin Oo Lwin) against the TNLA and Thabeikkyin (near Shwebo) against the PDF.

There are also major clashes on other fronts, of course. The army is retreating in the south against the Karen, who have seized almost all of the border posts with Thailand. The KNLA will still have to retake Myawaddy, which was briefly occupied last year before the KNA betrayed them.

Earlier, significant pressure from China on the 3Bs, particularly the MNDAA, had enabled the junta to retake Lashio, its first regional command post to have fallen, which had been captured last year. Several attempts at negotiations had been made with the TNLA, but they all failed. Finally, the Tatmadaw seems determined to gain the upper hand through military force rather than discussion. Following the capture of Nawnghkio and movements towards Kyaukme and Hsipaw, the objective appears to be to re-establish the roadway and railway from Muse, the last major town controlled on the Chinese border, to Mandalay. From Thabeikkyin, the Tatmadaw could also storm Mogok and Momeik. We will see whether the TNLA collapses on several fronts, or whether the circumstances surrounding the loss of Nawnghkio were specific. Additionally, rumours are circulating that the MNDAA is ready to evacuate new localities.

Meanwhile in Rakhine State, only Sittwe, Kyaukphyu and Munaung, on Cheduba Island, remain resistant to the Arakan Army. Chinese pressure on this third member of the Brotherhood seems less effective, perhaps because the region is not on the border. Fighting is already taking place in Kyaukphyu, which is of paramount importance to China, which hoped to make it its bridgehead to the Indian Ocean. A lieutenant colonel of the Tatmadaw was captured around the city.

The AA's progress has been rapid and has even spread beyond Rakhine State to the Bago and Ayeyarwady regions.

In the north of the country, the KIA has also gradually taken control of border posts with China and is fighting fierce battles that have enabled it to notably conquer Chipwi and Momauk in the last few months. However, the Tatmadaw, besieged in Hpakant and Bhamo, seems able to resist thanks to air support from Myitkyina. In Hpakant, a Tatmadaw counteroffensive seems to be slowly making progress. This has not been without losses, however. Below is a video of three army helicopters resupplying troops in Bhamo targeted by KIA drones in May. Two of them crashed a little further away.



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But last week, a large military flotilla, backed by air support, set off from Mandalay toward Bhamo, following the Ayeyarwady/Irrawaddy River. The convoy has already suffered multiple attacks and some losses, as it must pass through areas where the PDF reigns supreme. Here are some video footages of it.





The flotilla was last spotted in Kanbalu township, still far away from Bhamo.
Below is a scene which also took place near Kanbalu a few days ago; PDF troops took by surprise Pyu Saw Htees and Tatmadaw soldiers shopping. Obviously it's not going smoothly everywhere for the army just yet.



In all the rebel-held areas around Mandalay, it is very difficult for the army to move around without being immediately targeted. The PDFs are now only 10 miles from the city! A lot of weapons coming directly from China have been seized. Here too, a counter-offensive seems to have been launched. The Tatmadaw's waves of forced conscription, although laborious, seem to have borne fruit, despite desertions and defections.



A short video illustrating the typical difficulties encountered on the roads around Mandalay.

What did I forget? Oh, the Chin State. Having taken almost the entire state from the junta, rebel groups are fighting among themselves. This seems to be a realistic glimpse of what the country's future would look like if the army were to fall completely.

It seems clear that China, which may have been hostile to the junta in the past, now unequivocally desires its survival. But it is not alone in getting along well with this international pariah. Russia and Belarus are very strong partners with whom Myanmar is increasing its various investment projects and arms purchases. India, which is facing rebels from Myanmar on its border, as well as the famous United Arab Emirates, more discreetly, do not seem hostile either.

TL;DR:
There is a lot of fighting going on. Everywhere.
China is throwing its weight around, and after the TNLA, the AA and the MNDAA, it is also putting pressure on the neighbouring KIA.
Mandalay is under threat, while the army tries to fight on all fronts.
Rakhine could soon fall completely.

Oh yeah, and I haven't mentioned the fact that air strikes are taking place daily to spice things up. As with the choppers mentioned earlier, things sometimes end badly for the pilots.



Will the flotilla reach Bhamo? Will Kyaukphyu fall? Will China eventually intervene more actively? Will Mandalay be taken by storm? To be continued.
 
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Am I being retarded, or I am right in thinking chyna is really messing a trick by not giving their dudes some "real life xp" Condor Legion style?
Doesn't have to be a full scale intervention, but a modest "special operation" in support of the junta would be great practice for a Taiwan test run surely.
 
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