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Kari Kamiya said:
For more proof how much of a fucking pussy I am outside of the fantastical elements, I still have of yet to watch J-horror movies despite the genre interesting me. I've seen the American take on The Ring, but Ringu eludes me. Maybe it's because I don't wanna watch it and Ju-On alone for some reason,
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I can't take Ringu seriously, as insane as that franchise gets by the end.

Ju-On on the other hand is a longtime favorite (even if I have just as much fun laughing at some of those films as well).
The whole idea of the exponentially spreading, inescapable curse is much spookier than people-eating houses and demons with way too much free time on their hands.
Basketball Grandma is hands down my favorite of the Ju-On ghosts to lampoon.

Ju-On Origins got my attention pretty quickly and I binged it. It seems...edgier than the movies, somehow? I dunno. Still enjoyable, but like half a degree removed from the films. Probably because Netflix.
 
I have to recommend The Last Matinee AKA Red Screening.


It just recently came out and it's essentially the same concept as Demons only applied to the formula of Slashers. Which is fine. It wouldn't be the first time such as the opening to He Knows Your Alone.


Best part of He Knows Your Alone, right here. You don't need to watch the rest of it unless you want to track the trajectory of Tom Hanks' career.

The Last Matinee comes recommended even if it takes a little while to get going.
 
Today's selection: Absurd, aka Anthropophagus 2, aka Return of the Grim Reaper, aka Monster Hunter, aka Rosso Sangue, directed by Joe D'Amato, aka Aristide Massaccesi, and starring/written by George Eastman, aka Luigi Montefiori. Sorry if I missed a few in there... point is, it's very Italian.

Every other early 80s horror movie was a Halloween ripoff to the point that it's barely worth pointing out. Usually they copy the masked killer, partying teen victims, and holiday setting. Absurd copies none of those things, but a bunch of other stuff. Calling the killer "the boogeyman" is awfully blatant, but in the final analysis, it's unlike any American slasher movie.

Anthropophagus seems to be better-known than Absurd, possibly on account of being a little more gory, but this one might be a tad more well-paced and logical (these are relative things). George Eastman apparently considers Absurd the better of the two. They could have cut out the horror entirely and just focused on Italian people pretending to have a typical American day in the United States and it would have been nearly as interesting. I wonder how much I should credit the film's weird look to the crew. Maybe typical 1980s Italian interior design actually looked like a garish porn/giallo movie set, and all D'Amato had to do was point the camera.

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Look at that smile!
 
Calandrino said:
Today's selection: Absurd, aka Anthropophagus 2, aka Return of the Grim Reaper, aka Monster Hunter, aka Rosso Sangue, directed by Joe D'Amato, aka Aristide Massaccesi, and starring/written by George Eastman, aka Luigi Montefiori. Sorry if I missed a few in there... point is, it's very Italian.

Every other early 80s horror movie was a Halloween ripoff to the point that it's barely worth pointing out. Usually they copy the masked killer, partying teen victims, and holiday setting. Absurd copies none of those things, but a bunch of other stuff. Calling the killer "the boogeyman" is awfully blatant, but in the final analysis, it's unlike any American slasher movie.

Anthropophagus seems to be better-known than Absurd, possibly on account of being a little more gory, but this one might be a tad more well-paced and logical (these are relative things). George Eastman apparently considers Absurd the better of the two. They could have cut out the horror entirely and just focused on Italian people pretending to have a typical American day in the United States and it would have been nearly as interesting. I wonder how much I should credit the film's weird look to the crew. Maybe typical 1980s Italian interior design actually looked like a garish porn/giallo movie set, and all D'Amato had to do was point the camera.

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Look at that smile!
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Anthro just has much more atmosphere than Absurd. Plus a cool origin for the killer, groovy music, and two fantastic gory setpieces. And I love the scaly makeup on Big George Eastman. That said, Absurd is still fun. It's much more nonsensical than the predecessor but there's some good gore and -you might say- absurdity? It doesn't become a ripoff of Halloween 2 until the last 10 minutes and it when it does it's baffling (in a good way).
 
BrunoMattei said:
Anthro just has much more atmosphere than Absurd. Plus a cool origin for the killer, groovy music, and two fantastic gory setpieces. And I love the scaly makeup on Big George Eastman. That said, Absurd is still fun. It's much more nonsensical than the predecessor but there's some good gore and -you might say- absurdity? It doesn't become a ripoff of Halloween 2 until the last 10 minutes and it when it does it's baffling (in a good way).
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Not to mention Whang! did a very fun video on the many kills Anthro has to offer!


"Looks like you just got Anthropophagus'ed!"
 
Coelacanth said:
Not to mention Whang! did a very fun video on the many kills Anthro has to offer!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kRxyhyJXZoE
"Looks like you just got Anthropophagus'ed!"
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Aristide Massaccesi AKA Joe D'Amato planned to make a part 3 after he attended the Chiller convention in 1999 when he met a lot of dedicated fans. Sadly, the man died of a heart attack before it could happen.
 
BrunoMattei said:
It doesn't become a ripoff of Halloween 2 until the last 10 minutes and it when it does it's baffling (in a good way).
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Well, the Loomis character is introduced in the first scene, and the action moves to a hospital early on. The similarities go on accumulating and definitely pick up pace at the end. Then again, wikipedia (not infallible) says that they were both released October 1981, which makes me wonder. I'd have to call Absurd the better sequel. They don't reveal that George Eastman's character is so-and-so's brother or undo the ending of Anthropophagus or anything like that, at least.
 
Calandrino said:
Well, the Loomis character is introduced in the first scene, and the action moves to a hospital early on. The similarities go on accumulating and definitely pick up pace at the end. Then again, wikipedia (not infallible) says that they were both released October 1981, which makes me wonder. I'd have to call Absurd the better sequel. They don't reveal that George Eastman's character is so-and-so's brother or undo the ending of Anthropophagus or anything like that, at least.
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We don't know he's Loomis until half-way through and they quickly move on from the hospital after the drill in the head scene.

I vehemently disagree, Anthro is better. The abortion is top notch, the epitome of Eyetalian horror, and a legit work of art.

 
On the topic of Midsommar which I'm very late to, I really have to wonder why people hate the boyfriend for being a 'jackass' and go "YAAASS QUEEN SLAY" for the girl. Man was planning on rejecting her, but got absolutely fucked both ways because of unfortunate timing. If he leaves, he will be seen as a bastard from everyone for making the girl's string of events worse. If he stays, pretty much the movie shows what happens and he had to care for almost all of her wild moods and got fucked by his girlfriend at the end despite everything he did.
The girlfriend is a backstabbing bitch despite being broken further by the cult, the poor boyfriend endured true horror because he has to be dragged around by her, endured everything, and got brainwashed by the cult to impregnate someone. Sure, the girl deserves some ounce of pity from the tradgedy that started it all, but damn, the poor man got stuck with it all.
 
Aib Ld said:
On the topic of Midsommar which I'm very late to, I really have to wonder why people hate the boyfriend for being a 'jackass' and go "YAAASS QUEEN SLAY" for the girl. Man was planning on rejecting her, but got absolutely fucked both ways because of unfortunate timing. If he leaves, he will be seen as a bastard from everyone for making the girl's string of events worse. If he stays, pretty much the movie shows what happens and he had to care for almost all of her wild moods and got fucked by his girlfriend at the end despite everything he did.
The girlfriend is a backstabbing bitch despite being broken further by the cult, the poor boyfriend endured true horror because he has to be dragged around by her, endured everything, and got brainwashed by the cult to impregnate someone. Sure, the girl deserves some ounce of pity from the tradgedy that started it all, but damn, the poor man got stuck with it all.
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Imagine a movie where the main chick who did nothing wrong aside from staying in a relationship they didn't want to be in but didn't want the other party to gets drugged, then raped, then her fiancee decides to let her burn to death and it ends with basically a triumphant montage where you're only missing We Are The Champions. I'm sure that it would win all of the awards and be called transformative and shit.

I think this movie is a good litmus test whether you have actual morals or you're a real fucked up human being tbh
 
I don't think the movie celebrates her at all. I think you guys are just reading shitty articles that just say that.
 
What I got is the relationship was unhealthy and both were to blame for that. And the ending was her finding a new support unit and burning down the old one, she was able to move on, while he died because he wasn't able to move on from the relationship.

Now within the movie does it celebrate her, well yes it does but the new support unit is a fucking cult, of course, they are going to do that. Does the movie/filmmaker itself go hey good job and celebrate her, I don't see it.
 
Not reading the whole thread because fuck you.
Here, have my 2 cents.

Slasher films are the best Horror Genre period.
  • Friday the 13th IV: The Final Chapter is THE BEST slasher film in my opinion and always will be. There is only one bad Friday the 13th movie and thats the remake. I love all the others. Even Jason X and Jason takes Manhattan.
  • The whole Evil Dead series of films and show is at a tie with F13. Evil Dead 2 is my absolute favorite.
  • Texas Chainsaw Massacre does not get enough love, but there are too many remakes and prequels that make the OG seem like it sucks. The recent "Leatherface" movie was good though. The worst ones are "The Next Generation" and whatever the fuck that faggy shit "Texas Chainsaw" was. The rest are good. Even the prequel to the remake "The beginning" was good.
  • Sleepaway Camp is another series that doesn't get enough love, I'm surprised it isn't fucking banned by now for being homophobic and transphobic, since it directly deals with a psycho mom who wants a little girl, whos father was also a gay. Some of the kills in those films are pretty brutal in comparison to the others to be honest. Creative too.
  • Nightmare on Elm Street is a good bog standard for Slashers. Nothing too remarkable. Nothing too interesting about Freddy's backstory, but the idea behind him was genius. Part 3 was by far my favorite. My 2nd would be Wes Craven's New Nightmare. The remake sucked, as if that needed to be said.
  • Halloween is good. Not the best, but for sure a must see. Its THE classic Slasher. I love it for it being one of the first and I respect it for what it is, but Michaels story is only a little less boring than Freddy. Also, nothing is scary about a Shatner mask. Although... He scared the piss out of me as a kid. Jason and Freddy only* killed "bad" teens and adults for the most part. Leatherface was just a tard who was forced to kill for his psycho dad and brothers, but he still had a heart. Michael doesn't give a fuck who you are. Fucker tried to kill his own niece. That terrified me as a youngster.
  • Oh... And before anyone brings it up...
  • Rob Zombie is a faggot who fucks up everything he touches and I want to hit him in the mouth. He is a fucking Al Jourgensen wannabe. If you like/own his films you are gay and I hate you.
  • Psycho is good but doesnt really hold the test of time for me. Like, The Exorcist scared the piss out of me as a kid, but kids now would think it was lame. I kinda feel that way about Psycho. You gotta see it though.
  • Hellraiser was good for a bit but just got shittier every movie.
  • Saw was good at first but just became gore porn. The concept was awesome, but it was poorly executed.
  • Childs Play is considered a classic, but its forgettable and not that good in my opinion. I think its only revered because it appeals to the edgy faggots that like mixing kid stuff and scary stuff. I admit rarely it can be cool, but this is akin to Happy Tree Friends and shit like that.
  • Scream is whatever. I guess that's a "classic" now too? Scary Movie was better.

Honorable mentions:

  • Night of the Creeps
  • Alien series
  • The Shining
  • The Lost Boys, excluding the sequel, but the third movie "Lost Boys: The Thirst" is hilarious and under appreciated.
  • Poltergeist (and I don't care for "ghosty" movies usually)
  • Return of the Living Dead (I typically don't like zombie movies either)
  • The Witch
  • Hereditary
  • Jacobs Ladder
  • C.H.U.D.
Final Thoughts:

  • "Black" Horror is terrible and not even in a good way.
  • Modern horror is worse than the literal shit dripping from Hollywoods ass in the late 90s and early 2000s.
  • The Blair Witch Project wasn't that bad.
 
Product Placement said:
Now within the movie does it celebrate her, well yes it does but the new support unit is a fucking cult, of course, they are going to do that. Does the movie/filmmaker itself go hey good job and celebrate her, I don't see it.
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I mean this is literally what he says about the movie. I don't know why you two are arguing, is this some kind of the 'death of the author' bullshit?

Ari Aster said:
“Yes, in fact, that was why I wanted to write this.” says the director. “For me, the film was always a perverse wish fulfillment, a fantasy that was playing with a kind of catharsis that I hope people will have to wrestle with. I hope it will also have people cheering and then maybe hopefully later on contending with that a little bit more.”

To be clear, does Aster hope cinemagoers will feel guilty about relishing the fate of Reynor’s Christian, who, while not the best boyfriend in the world, is far from being the worst person who ever lived?

“Maybe,” says the director. “I say, ‘F— it, just enjoy it. But, there should be an aftertaste to the uplift, I guess.”
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He wanted the ending to be uplifting, he wanted people to cheer on her choice, and yeah maybe afterwards when you think back you go 'Maybe it was a bit much' but you are 100% meant to be cheering for her and her choice and be happy she now has shed her past behind.

He doesn't even see her boyfriend being drugged and then raped as that, him being drugged and raped, he says he was 'cheating on her' and that was her breaking point and why she decides to make him burn alive.

Ari Aster said:
He points to a climactic scene after Dani catches Christian cheating and she begins sobbing uncontrollably. A group of women from the cult carry her indoors and huddle around her, echoing her screams and wails.

"That's her breaking point," Aster says. "It's also her fusing with this community. She's found people who are willing to feel what she's feeling, and she's able to just purge."
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He went out of his way to go ahead and publicly state that people who think she has no idea what is happening are wrong, that this is not the movie you are watching, that in no way you should interpret it as such.

He also specifies that he wrote it as a result of a break up he was going through, and this was some kind of wish fulfillment and therapy to help him go through his anger and shit.


It's a piece of shit movie made by someone who decided to tell FUCK YOU REEE I HOPE YOU DIE to his ex in cinematic form instead of just getting drunk and fucking random tinder hoes like the rest of us do.
 
Mamas boy said:
Not reading the whole thread because fuck you.
Here, have my 2 cents.

Slasher films are the best Horror Genre period.
  • Friday the 13th IV: The Final Chapter is THE BEST slasher film in my opinion and always will be. There is only one bad Friday the 13th movie and thats the remake. I love all the others. Even Jason X and Jason takes Manhattan.
  • The whole Evil Dead series of films and show is at a tie with F13. Evil Dead 2 is my absolute favorite.
  • Texas Chainsaw Massacre does not get enough love, but there are too many remakes and prequels that make the OG seem like it sucks. The recent "Leatherface" movie was good though. The worst ones are "The Next Generation" and whatever the fuck that faggy shit "Texas Chainsaw" was. The rest are good. Even the prequel to the remake "The beginning" was good.
  • Sleepaway Camp is another series that doesn't get enough love, I'm surprised it isn't fucking banned by now for being homophobic and transphobic, since it directly deals with a psycho mom who wants a little girl, whos father was also a gay. Some of the kills in those films are pretty brutal in comparison to the others to be honest. Creative too.
  • Nightmare on Elm Street is a good bog standard for Slashers. Nothing too remarkable. Nothing too interesting about Freddy's backstory, but the idea behind him was genius. Part 3 was by far my favorite. My 2nd would be Wes Craven's New Nightmare. The remake sucked, as if that needed to be said.
  • Halloween is good. Not the best, but for sure a must see. Its THE classic Slasher. I love it for it being one of the first and I respect it for what it is, but Michaels story is only a little less boring than Freddy. Also, nothing is scary about a Shatner mask. Although... He scared the piss out of me as a kid. Jason and Freddy only* killed "bad" teens and adults for the most part. Leatherface was just a tard who was forced to kill for his psycho dad and brothers, but he still had a heart. Michael doesn't give a fuck who you are. Fucker tried to kill his own niece. That terrified me as a youngster.
  • Oh... And before anyone brings it up...
  • Rob Zombie is a faggot who fucks up everything he touches and I want to hit him in the mouth. He is a fucking Al Jourgensen wannabe. If you like/own his films you are gay and I hate you.
  • Psycho is good but doesnt really hold the test of time for me. Like, The Exorcist scared the piss out of me as a kid, but kids now would think it was lame. I kinda feel that way about Psycho. You gotta see it though.
  • Hellraiser was good for a bit but just got shittier every movie.
  • Saw was good at first but just became gore porn. The concept was awesome, but it was poorly executed.
  • Childs Play is considered a classic, but its forgettable and not that good in my opinion. I think its only revered because it appeals to the edgy faggots that like mixing kid stuff and scary stuff. I admit rarely it can be cool, but this is akin to Happy Tree Friends and shit like that.
  • Scream is whatever. I guess that's a "classic" now too? Scary Movie was better.
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There's a lot to unpack here. But you do realize that the Giallo was the immediate predecessor to the great American slasher film, right?





 
Last point on Midsommar:

The actress herself came out and said 'Yeah I decided to play all of the last scenes like Dani isn't actually aware of anything that is going on, she sees fire going up and she's just happy because it's fire, she has no idea that her boyfriend is in there because she's mentally broken, otherwise I don't think I could support Dani' and Aster literally came out and said 'Yeah no, I didn't write it this way, I didn't direct it this way, this might be what she chooses to believe but she's wrong this is not what happened int he movie, she knew"

It's 100% meant to be triumphant and something you initially root for.
Mamas boy said:
  • Friday the 13th IV: The Final Chapter is THE BEST slasher film in my opinion and always will be. There is only one bad Friday the 13th movie and thats the remake. I love all the others. Even Jason X and Jason takes Manhattan.
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Bruh, Jason Goes To Hell. Jason X isn't terrible, and Jason Takes Manhattan is fantastic, but Jason Goes to Hell is fucking shit.

Mamas boy said:
  • Scream is whatever. I guess that's a "classic" now too? Scary Movie was better.
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Mamas boy said:
  • Friday the 13th IV: The Final Chapter is THE BEST slasher film in my opinion and always will be. There is only one bad Friday the 13th movie and thats the remake. I love all the others. Even Jason X and Jason takes Manhattan.
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I enjoy the F13th movies, in fact, think I get some enjoyment out of them all but Jason Goes to Hell, which I find painfully awful.
Mamas boy said:
  • Texas Chainsaw Massacre does not get enough love, but there are too many remakes and prequels that make the OG seem like it sucks. The recent "Leatherface" movie was good though. The worst ones are "The Next Generation" and whatever the fuck that faggy shit "Texas Chainsaw" was. The rest are good. Even the prequel to the remake "The beginning" was good.
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I thought Leatherface and the prequel to the remake, were both awful. Not sure why you think the original doesn't get much love, still seen as a classic horror movie by even those outside the horror fandom,


Mamas boy said:
  • Nightmare on Elm Street is a good bog standard for Slashers. Nothing too remarkable. Nothing too interesting about Freddy's backstory, but the idea behind him was genius. Part 3 was by far my favorite. My 2nd would be Wes Craven's New Nightmare. The remake sucked, as if that needed to be said.
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You are saying the Elm Street movies are bog stranded slashers, mean I disagree with that, but you also say the idea behind Freddy was genius, which would imply it was anything but bog stranded.

Bit confused, do you mean everything outside Freddy and his powers is bog-standard for a slasher movie?
Mamas boy said:
  • Modern horror is worse than the literal shit dripping from Hollywoods ass in the late 90s and early 2000s.
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Movies just change, the horror movies now are different from the 90s and 2000s, but I would say 2000 to 2010, is my least favourite era. too many boring pg-13 teen horror movies.

However still some good horror movies from the 2000s, like The Devil's Backbone, Drag Me to Hell and Ginger Snaps.
 
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