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Midnight Mass just dropped, from the creator of Haunting of Hill House just dropped. Very excited about that. Also features my favorite current scream queen, Alex Essoe. She should be getting more/better work.
Speaking of Haunting of Hill House, would you also say that it's vaguely horror at best? I mean, by that metric, seems like it would apply.
Oh come on. How can you watch the last half/third and say it's not horror? Sure, it's not a slasher, it's definitely more experimental than your average movie and the first half deals more with existential dread, but it's most definitely horror.
Speaking of Haunting of Hill House, would you also say that it's vaguely horror at best? I mean, by that metric, seems like it would apply.
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Supernaturalism does not automatically make something horror.
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How would you define horror in the context of horror movies, then?
I'd say that we could rule out a bunch of movies classified as horror as not technically horror. The Battery shouldn't be classified as horror, a bunch of slashers should be seen as thrillers instead of horror, etc..
I'd say that we could rule out a bunch of movies classified as horror as not technically horror. The Battery shouldn't be classified as horror, a bunch of slashers should be seen as thrillers instead of horror, etc..
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Does Fire In The Sky count? Probably not, but I love that movie.
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Some scenes in that movie are genuinely horrific.
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Fuck it, I'll say it, I'll be the guy. The 1990 remake of Night of the Living Dead is better than the original. I consider it on par with the other remakes better than the original like The Thing, The Fly, The Blob, Maniac (2012), and The Town that Dreaded Sundown. The Town that Dreaded Sundown remake is a movie that came and went without much attention but I highly recommend it for slasher fans.
Yes, just for the abduction sequence which scared the shit out of me when I was 8 and thought alien abductions were real along with wrestling.
I always thought that this was the direction Prometheus should have gone in. Just go all in with Biomechanic nightmare fuel. But Ridley Scott pussied out and went with a script by that fag who wrote Lost.
Yes, just for the abduction sequence which scared the shit out of me when I was 8 and thought alien abductions were real along with wrestling.
I always thought that this was the direction Prometheus should have gone in. Just go all in with Biomechanic nightmare fuel. But Ridley Scott pussied out and went with a script by that fag who wrote Lost.
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I wouldn't say the Night remake is better but it is still really good, striking that difficult balance of doing something new whilst also keeping the spirit of the original. Speaking of the original I rewatched it a few days ago, whilst the acting is somewhat dodgy (although that could be applied to all Romero films) it still holds up in terms of atmosphere and tension, which is all the more impressive given it had a $2 million budget when adjusted for inflation. The Dawn remake was surprisingly decent as well, from the days when Snyder still had people at the studio to reign in his excesses,
Given how RLM have just started their list and he's my favourite director, if I had to rank every John Carpenter horror film I would say:
12. Village of the Damned - dull, badly acted, not scary. Avoid.
11. Vampires - elements of a good film buried by bad writing, an unlikeable lead and a general mean spirited feel to the whole thing.
10. Ghosts of Mars - shite, but a bit of a guilty pleasure.
9. The Ward - perfectly serviceable, just doesn't feel like a Carpenter film
8. In the Mouth of Madness - I really like every entry from this point onwards, just for me it never quite hits top gear.
7. They Live - not really horror I know, but it is still really enjoyable and Piper is great as the lead.
6. Halloween - tense and with a great soundtrack, but hard to shake the countless sequels and knock offs that have dulled its impact.
5. Christine - another really solid entry, with effects that still look fantastic today. Taking a standard car, then just blacking out the windows to make it scary shows how good he was at the time.
4. Assault on Precinct 13 - also not really horror, but strongly influenced by it. Plus it gives me a chance to say go and watch it, because it's brilliant.
3. The Fog - the first "real" horror film I remember watching thus it gets so high through nostalgia, but it's still a really good old fashioned ghost story.
2. Prince of Darkness - absolutely nails the feeling of creeping dread, for me his outright scariest film, and most underrated.
1. The Thing - predictable, but there's a reason it always gets the top slot, because it's a virtually perfect film.
Given how RLM have just started their list and he's my favourite director, if I had to rank every John Carpenter horror film I would say:
12. Village of the Damned - dull, badly acted, not scary. Avoid.
11. Vampires - elements of a good film buried by bad writing, an unlikeable lead and a general mean spirited feel to the whole thing.
10. Ghosts of Mars - shite, but a bit of a guilty pleasure.
9. The Ward - perfectly serviceable, just doesn't feel like a Carpenter film
8. In the Mouth of Madness - I really like every entry from this point onwards, just for me it never quite hits top gear.
7. They Live - not really horror I know, but it is still really enjoyable and Piper is great as the lead.
6. Halloween - tense and with a great soundtrack, but hard to shake the countless sequels and knock offs that have dulled its impact.
5. Christine - another really solid entry, with effects that still look fantastic today. Taking a standard car, then just blacking out the windows to make it scary shows how good he was at the time.
4. Assault on Precinct 13 - also not really horror, but strongly influenced by it. Plus it gives me a chance to say go and watch it, because it's brilliant.
3. The Fog - the first "real" horror film I remember watching thus it gets so high through nostalgia, but it's still a really good old fashioned ghost story.
2. Prince of Darkness - absolutely nails the feeling of creeping dread, for me his outright scariest film, and most underrated.
1. The Thing - predictable, but there's a reason it always gets the top slot, because it's a virtually perfect film.
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I think the atmosphere in the original Night and the remake are about even. The weaknesses in the original largely is on the acting and the writing for certain characters, namely Barbara. Yeah, it was 1968 blah blah blah, but Barbara in the original is a terrible character. Once she enters that house and we meet Ben she becomes a prop and Ben is now our main character. The one thing the original has over the remake -ironically- is that the zombie feasting scenes are much more graphic and it has a superb downbeat ending. That's about it. But overall, I prefer the remake.
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1990 Night of the Living Dead has too much of a cheap TV movie look for me to prefer it over the original, but it's still way better than any of the films after Day of the Dead. Tom Savini special effects are always worth a watch. I haven't seen it in a very long time so perhaps I'll re-evaluate it this October.
John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness has great atmosphere a lot of the time, but the premise was too goofy for me to take seriously. You can tell that it heavily influenced The Void, another film that has great atmosphere but gets silly after a certain point. I'll probably watch both again soon to see if my feelings have changed about them.
I've seen some Italian horror films recently. I finally got to see Dellamorte Dellamore and it's hilarious and the ending totally goes off the rails. It's worth a watch for sure. I also saw Fulci's The Beyond. This isn't the first time I've seen it. He's the master of eyeball trauma, that's for sure, but I still prefer Dario Argento over any other Italian horror director because he tells better stories.
Speaking of goofy, I recommend Frank Henenlotter's Brain Damage, though after a certain point it gets much darker than you would expect. Pretty much every person I show it to enjoys it.
John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness has great atmosphere a lot of the time, but the premise was too goofy for me to take seriously. You can tell that it heavily influenced The Void, another film that has great atmosphere but gets silly after a certain point. I'll probably watch both again soon to see if my feelings have changed about them.
I've seen some Italian horror films recently. I finally got to see Dellamorte Dellamore and it's hilarious and the ending totally goes off the rails. It's worth a watch for sure. I also saw Fulci's The Beyond. This isn't the first time I've seen it. He's the master of eyeball trauma, that's for sure, but I still prefer Dario Argento over any other Italian horror director because he tells better stories.
Speaking of goofy, I recommend Frank Henenlotter's Brain Damage, though after a certain point it gets much darker than you would expect. Pretty much every person I show it to enjoys it.
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still the gore effects pale in comparison to the previous (and at the time last) Romero zombie film Day of the dead. The scene where Rhodes is torn in half only to still manage to scream "CHOKE ON EM!" will always beat any cheap or even some top tier CGI effects. Especially when you know Joe Pillato was up to his neck in half rotten meat and the smell was unbelievable as they filmed the scene, yeah there's a reason his captain Rhodes character was a pfp of mine for a time.
Anyways anyone have any thoughts on John Carpenter's In The Mouth Of Madness?
Funny how the trailer omits The Thing and acts like starman was a horror movie it wasnbt it was a romantic scifi drama.
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With recent rewatches, I was going over Roger Corman's Masque of the Red Death, the best of his Poe-based films with it's baroque delirium. However, his The House of Usher is a properly contained descent into madness, suffused with a Gothic mood and it's also amazing what Corman was able to do with the budget for this film, with the sets and the cast. Even Mark Damon's average-fellow outsider becomes more feverish and nervous as he starts to succumb to the House of Usher's dark atmosphere.
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Midnight Mass is horror horror - lots of good jump scares. About half way through. You gotta check it out.
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Oh fuck off. It's a great remake, I'm not gonna deny that, but even people behind the remake would be offended for you to be saying shit like that. You can even watch it more than the original and enjoy it more. But to say it's better? Bullshit.
If you gave me the choice between watching Dawn or the Dawn remake right now, I'd go with the Dawn remake but I'd never say it's better. Though in all fairness I've probably watched Dawn's different cuts about 20 times so I suffer fatigue from it, and also Day is far superior. And yet while I think that Day is the better movie of the whole trilogy, I wouldn't say that it's better than Night.
Just because I'd find right now the remake to be more enjoyable doesn't mean I'd ever say it's better, because it's not. Night of the Living Dead is a classic of horror cinema, the best zombie movie that's ever been made, and nothing will ever top it. Miss me with that shit.
That's another movie I'd say is probably top 5 best zombies movies ever made. Definitely top 10, most likely top 5ish.
Just started the third episode right now. It's fucking great. I do have to wonder one thing: why the fuck did they put my girl Alex Essoe in old woman makeup? I assume that they are gonna make her look young again, but why not just have an old looking woman that kinda looked like her in her place instead of having her in old person makeup? Shit is distracting, nigga.
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Yeah the old ppl make up was definitely.... a choice. I normally hate it when they do that... I will let you decide if it seems like it's worth it. But yeah have nearly died pretty much every episode. Like literally as soon as the sun sets on the town it's just full on dreading the next creepy sighting
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Prince of Darkness is my 3rd favorite Carpenter film. My top 3 is: They Live, The Thing and Prince of Darkness.
The Beyond is Fulci's horror masterpiece for sure. That tends to be the highest rated among his zombie quartet but all 4 are great in different ways.
I respect Hennenlotter but after watching most of his short list of films you realize that he essentially just makes the same movie every time. The one exception is Frankenhooker. But I still love Basket Case.
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I just watched Prince of Darkness again. It turned out to be a lot better than I remembered. It's still hokey in parts but there are some great scenes such as the "Pray for death" one. I also watched The Void again after that and it didn't hold up nearly as well. I like how Carpenter uses the same actors in most his films. It makes them comfy.
I'm going to watch City of the Living Dead soon just to see the guts scene again. I didn't care too much for Zombi 2 and 3, but again, Fulci's the master of eyeball trauma and people should see 2 at least once.
I'm going to stream Frankenhooker for my friends next month because none of them have seen it. I think they'll enjoy watching exploding hookers.
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I went back and watched the remake again yesterday. I'd definitely agree about Barbara's character, a reminder of the time when people could write a female lead with actual flaws and who wasn't constantly putting dumb men in their place. Even Judy is more proactive and Helen gets to do more than hide in the basement. The effects are decent (except for the shot of Johnny hitting the tombstone) it's well paced and has some good jump scares. One minor thing, but I liked how they addressed one of those things that bugged me about the original, that Ben shot off the lock to the gas pump. Plus the opening scene is a good example of subverting expectations whilst staying true to the original.
Only 2 things I didn't like was Cooper, who hammed it up far too much, and the way the ending was done. The original is so great because of the ambiguity, here it's a bunch of whoopin' and hollerin' good ol' boys, then just in case that might have been too subtle, have Barbara turn to the camera and say we're no different from them. Although the black and white of the original will for me always make it creepier, with the zombies seemingly appearing out of a black void (plus on a more practical level, it helps to hide dodgy effects and makeup).
One thing I have always found odd about Night though is that the zombies are seen using basic tools, but this idea is never really touched upon in the sequels.
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YA BUNCH OF YO-YO'S!
One correction: Romero does touch upon the zombies using tools. There's a newscast in Dawn of the Dead where we hear the guy with the eyepatch go "We've seen these creatures using tools but I can assure you that this is at the most basic level like animals." Or something to that effect. It's kind of like the primate learning to use the bone as a club in 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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I don't think I've ever heard that phrase outside that film, perhaps it was a regional thing but it feel like the least threatening insult you could imagine. Zombie Karen stabbing her mother with a trowel is a great scene, thanks in no small part to the music, but thematically it always stood out for me as nothing like it ever happens again.