/horror/ general megathread - Let's talk about movies and shit.

[Internet War Criminal]

However still some good horror movies from the 2000s, like The Devil's Backbone, Drag Me to Hell and Ginger Snaps.

Off the top of my head:

Saw, Hostel, [REC] 1&2, The Descent, House of the Devil, Triangle, The Mist, Final Destination, Behind the Mask, The Strangers, Them, American Psycho, Shaun of the Dead, Zombieland, Dawn of the Dead remake, 28 Days Later, etc... I'm sure I forgot plenty of great ones too.

you also had a ton of great horror from outside America like Ichi the Killer, Let The Right One In, and so on.

There were a fuck ton of great horror movies in the 2000s, it's just that people either forgot about them, were too young to watch them, or they just watched mainstream shit and had no idea what was going back in the days where you still had to kind of seek out that shit.

late. someone had Spiral on today. wtf is Chris Rock doing?

It's fucking painful, it is not in any way a Saw movie. I literally don't remember anything about it except part of the convoluted ending and even that is almost nothing.

It's not a Saw movie, and I'm glad that it doesn't have the title, and I'm never gonna see it as one. Shit, Jigsaw was a much better movie.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

From a quick google search, fucking Frailty, May, Pontypool, Session 9, Wolf Creek, Paranormal Activity, Devils' Rejects, Cabin Fever, Cloverfield, Ju-On, The Collector, 1408, etc...

Of all of the decades to complain when it comes to horror, 2000-2009 isn't it. Sure there was lots of mainstream shit, but that's the case literally every single decade. The 70s and 80s were filled with absolute stinkers as well.

 

[Product Placement]

late. someone had Spiral on today. wtf is Chris Rock doing?

If I was to guess, he saw how well Halloween 2018 did with Danny McBride and David Gordon Green behind it. Thought he could do the same thing with another horror series, but he also wanted to start in it to show he had acting range outside comedies.

Lionsgate's said yes because of how well Halloween did but also thought they may have another Jordan Peele on their hand. But it flopped being the lowest-grossing Saw movie, despite having the higher budget, and it wasn't just covid for why it flopped. because other horror movies around that same time some without name recognition did around the same or much better.

After this and Fargo season 4, Chris Rock really struggles with anything that isn't comedic. But the one thing I don't get he stars and wrote it, but didn't direct it, that was done by the guy who Saw 2 to 4.

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

It's fucking painful, it is not in any way a Saw movie. I literally don't remember anything about it except part of the convoluted ending and even that is almost nothing.

It's not a Saw movie, and I'm glad that it doesn't have the title, and I'm never gonna see it as one. Shit, Jigsaw was a much better movie.

this piece of shit was Chris Rock's idea?? fucking hell "just wait for Sandler to write Grown Ups 3"

Deeming Bell's voice as too iconic, the production feared that reusing it for Mr. Snuggles could have created questions about the relationship between both killers; an early draft actually featured Jigsaw's voice only to then be revealed a digitally altered version of his voice and the story originally had all the speeches as actually being past recordings of Jigsaw's voice using words in a different order to show that the Spiral Killer had digitally rearranged the words to create different tapes.[18] The filmmakers had struggled with finding a new voice for the killer to replace Bell's. Before settling on the computer simulated voice, Bousman went through numerous voices of women, children, and men. The final voice used in the film was selected only two days before finishing the sound mix.[23]

that would have been a good idea not this shit they ended up with 2 days before ..

After this and Fargo season 4, Chris Rock really struggles with anything that isn't comedic. But the one thing I don't get he stars and wrote it, but didn't direct it, that was done by the guy who Saw 2 to 4.

Probably wasn't allowed to direct considering I don't think he's ever directed anything?

 

[Product Placement]

Off the top of my head:

Saw, Hostel, [REC] 1&2, The Descent, House of the Devil, Triangle, The Mist, Final Destination, Behind the Mask, The Strangers, Them, American Psycho, Shaun of the Dead, Zombieland, Dawn of the Dead remake, 28 Days Later, etc... I'm sure I forgot plenty of great ones too.

you also had a ton of great horror from outside America like Ichi the Killer, Let The Right One In, and so on.

There were a fuck ton of great horror movies in the 2000s, it's just that people either forgot about them, were too young to watch them, or they just watched mainstream shit and had no idea what was going back in the days where you still had to kind of seek out that shit.



It's fucking painful, it is not in any way a Saw movie. I literally don't remember anything about it except part of the convoluted ending and even that is almost nothing.

It's not a Saw movie, and I'm glad that it doesn't have the title, and I'm never gonna see it as one. Shit, Jigsaw was a much better movie.

Oh yeah, 2000s isn't a bad era at all, just the one I find the weakest. Really don't think any era has been overall awful for horror, even if the big studios aren't doing a good job, always indies or like you said good stuff outside America. But will say this looking up titles, it is better than I remember it being.

Few other ones you didn't list, would be The Host, The House of the Devil, Anit-christ, Thirst, Trick 'r Treat, A Tale of Two Sisters, Shadow of the Vampire, Beyond RE-Animator , The Loved Ones, Poultrygeist, Planet Terror, Splinter and Amer

However disagree with Cabin Fever being a good one, I really hate that movie.

 

[Syaoran Li]

If any decade is the weakest for horror, in my opinion it would be the 2010's. Not really a fan of Insidious or The Conjuring and have no interest in their sequels. Also, Jordan Peele is an untalented hack.

The 1920's, 1930's and 1940's were pretty much the beginning of the horror genre with the silent films from Germany like Nosferatu and Dr. Caligari, Universal Horror, and early B Movies. It's an acquired taste for modern audiences, especially the post-Hays Code stuff but I like it.

The 1950's and 1960's gave us Hammer Horror, the beginnings of the giallo era, the B-Movie creature features, plus the 60's in particular gave us Night of the Living Dead and Psycho, two of the most influential horror films of all time.

The 1970's and 1980's are generally considered the golden age of horror films and for good reason.

The 1990's was actually a low point for American horror. The big ones for that decade everyone likes to bring up were Scream and The Blair Witch Project, but my favorite Hollywood horror movie from the 90's are Savini's Night of the Living Dead remake and Bram Stoker's Dracula, which blended horror with romantic drama and the lavish period piece epic.

The 2000's was a very bipolar decade for horror films where the good films were great (28 Days Later, Hostel, Drag Me to Hell, May, the first Saw, Slither, The Devil's Rejects) and the bad films were god-awful (the Saw sequels, the Halloween II remake, pretty much any of the PG-13 teen horror flicks)

Unpopular opinion, but I hated the 2004 Dawn of the Dead remake.

It's not as bad as the remake for Day of the Dead, Night of the Living Dead 3D, or the World War Z movie and I get why people like it, but it's just not my cup of tea.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

After this and Fargo season 4, Chris Rock really struggles with anything that isn't comedic. But the one thing I don't get he stars and wrote it, but didn't direct it, that was done by the guy who Saw 2 to 4.

He wasn't terrible in Fargo, though most definitely the weakest link. In Spiral there is no one else to carry the story, and yet he still manages to shine due to how horrible he is.

that would have been a good idea not this shit they ended up with 2 days before ..

Yeah that voice sounded like a fucking tranny. Legit when I heard the killer's voice for the first time on tape I literally went 'No please don't go there'.

Oh yeah, 2000s isn't a bad era at all, just the one I find the weakest. Really don't think any era has been overall awful for horror, even if the big studios aren't doing a good job, always indies or like you said good stuff outside America. But will say this looking up titles, it is better than I remember it being.

To be fair I had that argument a while ago with someone and I ended up pulling out my phone and listing a bunch of those movies and he also went 'Yeah much better than I remembered'

If any decade is the weakest for horror, in my opinion it would be the 2010's.

Completely disagree, it felt like such a step up from the 2010s.

I Saw the Devil, Bone Tomahawk, You're Next, Berberian Sound Studio, Kill List, Cabin in the Woods, Insidious, The Conjuring, Tucker & Dale vs Evil, Grave Encounters, The Purge, Resolution, The Endless, We Are Still Here, Attack the Block, Autopsy of Jane Doe, Manic remake, Don't Breathe, Ready or Not, Doctor Sleep, Stake Land, V/H/S 1&2, Starry Eyes, Sinister, A Quiet Place, 10 Cloverfield Lane, Hereditary, IT (first one), The House That Jack Built, The Invitation, Evil Dead remake, The Final Girls, Blackcoat's Daughter, The Innkeepers, Deathgasm, Green Room, The Lodge, The Visit, Hush, It Comes At Night, Occulus, The Hole in the Ground, Upgrade, Train to Busan, Possessor, The Clovehitch Killer, Cheap Thrill, Detention, Would You Rather, The Belko Experiment, Tragedy Girls, 1BR, We Summon the Darkness, Halloween remake, Scream 4, Curse of Chucky, Cult of Chucky, etc...

I'm forgetting literally dozens if not hundreds of great indie flicks, too. The 2010s was literally a golden age of horror that we haven't seen since like, the 80s. And I'm also not including almost any of the great foreign horror movies.

 

[BrunoMattei]

From a quick google search, fucking Frailty, May, Pontypool, Session 9, Wolf Creek, Paranormal Activity, Devils' Rejects, Cabin Fever, Cloverfield, Ju-On, The Collector, 1408, etc...

Of all of the decades to complain when it comes to horror, 2000-2009 isn't it. Sure there was lots of mainstream shit, but that's the case literally every single decade. The 70s and 80s were filled with absolute stinkers as well.

I'd also add Jim Van Bebber's The Manson Family (AKA Charlie's Family) even though it started filming in 91 or 92 or so it didn't get released until 2003. Then there's a really underrated one called Chasing Sleep. And another great horror flick set in an abandoned asylum called Session Nine.

 

[Product Placement]

2010 to 2020 has a lot of horror movies I enjoyed.

Spoiler: Some of the 2010s horror movies I've enjoyed

The Lighthouse
Doctor Sleep
Raw
What We Do In the Shadows
Hereditary
Saint Maud
The Witch
Suspiria 2018
Come to Daddy
One Cut of the Dead
Crimson Peak
Midsommar
Ready or Not
The Killing of a Sacred Deer (imdb lists this as horror, don't see it myself)
Krampus
It Follows
American Marry
Velvet Buzzsaw
Mandy
Tigers are not Afraid
Prevenge
Green Room
The House that Jack Built
Annihilation
Bone Tomahawk
Halloween 2018
Get Out (overrated but still good)
The Skin I Live In
Train to Busan
Overlord
I Am Not A Serial Killer
Don't Breathe
The Conjuring 1/2
The Battery
Neon Demon
The Innkeepers
Evil Dead Remake
The Blackcoat's Daughter
Tucker and Dale vs Evil
Cabin in the Woods
Split
It Comes At Night
Cult of Chucky
Cruse of Chucky
Tale of Tales
Night of the Wolf
Sightseers
Rare Exports
The Mortuary Collection
Ghost Stories
Kill List
It Part 1
Terrified
Yakuza Apocalypse
Prometheus
Mama
Don't Be Afraid of the Dark

 

[BrunoMattei]

2010 to 2020 has a lot of horror movies I enjoyed.

Spoiler: Some of the 2010s horror movies I've enjoyed

The Lighthouse
Doctor Sleep
Raw
What We Do In the Shadows
Hereditary
Saint Maud
The Witch
Suspiria 2018
Come to Daddy
One Cut of the Dead
Crimson Peak
Midsommar
Ready or Not
The Killing of a Sacred Deer (imdb lists this as horror, don't see it myself)
Krampus
It Follows
American Marry
Velvet Buzzsaw
Mandy
Tigers are not Afraid
Prevenge
Green Room
The House that Jack Built
Annihilation
Bone Tomahawk
Halloween 2018
Get Out (overrated but still good)
The Skin I Live In
Train to Busan
Overlord
I Am Not A Serial Killer
Don't Breathe
The Conjuring 1/2
The Battery
Neon Demon
The Innkeepers
Evil Dead Remake
The Blackcoat's Daughter
Tucker and Dale vs Evil
Cabin in the Woods
Split
It Comes At Night
Cult of Chucky
Cruse of Chucky
Tale of Tales
Night of the Wolf
Sightseers
Rare Exports
The Mortuary Collection
Ghost Stories
Kill List
It Part 1
Terrified
Yakuza Apocalypse
Prometheus
Mama
Don't Be Afraid of the Dark

I think Killing of a Sacred Deer is a kind of horror. Certainly arthouse horror of the Lynchian variety.

 

[Syaoran Li]

He wasn't terrible in Fargo, though most definitely the weakest link. In Spiral there is no one else to carry the story, and yet he still manages to shine due to how horrible he is.


Yeah that voice sounded like a fucking tranny. Legit when I heard the killer's voice for the first time on tape I literally went 'No please don't go there'.


To be fair I had that argument a while ago with someone and I ended up pulling out my phone and listing a bunch of those movies and he also went 'Yeah much better than I remembered'


Completely disagree, it felt like such a step up from the 2010s.

I Saw the Devil, Bone Tomahawk, You're Next, Berberian Sound Studio, Kill List, Cabin in the Woods, Insidious, The Conjuring, Tucker & Dale vs Evil, Grave Encounters, The Purge, Resolution, The Endless, We Are Still Here, Attack the Block, Autopsy of Jane Doe, Manic remake, Don't Breathe, Ready or Not, Doctor Sleep, Stake Land, V/H/S 1&2, Starry Eyes, Sinister, A Quiet Place, 10 Cloverfield Lane, Hereditary, IT (first one), The House That Jack Built, The Invitation, Evil Dead remake, The Final Girls, Blackcoat's Daughter, The Innkeepers, Deathgasm, Green Room, The Lodge, The Visit, Hush, It Comes At Night, Occulus, The Hole in the Ground, Upgrade, Train to Busan, Possessor, The Clovehitch Killer, Cheap Thrill, Detention, Would You Rather, The Belko Experiment, Tragedy Girls, 1BR, We Summon the Darkness, Halloween remake, Scream 4, Curse of Chucky, Cult of Chucky, etc...

I'm forgetting literally dozens if not hundreds of great indie flicks, too. The 2010s was literally a golden age of horror that we haven't seen since like, the 80s. And I'm also not including almost any of the great foreign horror movies.

I disagree on the 2010's being a golden age for horror, namely since half of those films I don't like at all, like Oculus, the Purge sequels, the Insidious movies, and pretty much anything doing with Chucky (never was a fan of that franchise, sadly)

At the same time, you do bring up a good point about indie horror and certain films like Train to Busan, Attack the Block, Tucker and Dale, Halloween 2018, 10 Cloverfield Lane, and A Quiet Place.

On second thought, the 2010's for horror is sort of like the 2000's was in terms of how bipolar it was, but on an even more intense level. The indie output for horror was better in the 2010's, that I will admit. Foreign horror got better too. Hollywood horror was worse in the 2010's than in the 2000's, but the movies that were good were very good.

When it's good, it's really awesome (A Quiet Place, Train to Busan, The Green Inferno, What We Do In Shadows, Headless, Halloween 2018, Found, Tucker and Dale, the first Purge movie, Hereditary)

When it's bad, it's god-awful (Get Out, Insidious, any Purge movie after the first, Nightmare on Elm Street remake, World War Z)

Cabin In The Woods is sort of a mixed bag. The concept is great but it's Whedon and that guy is a one-trick pony. Still, I'd say Cabin In The Woods is his best work since Buffy.

Another unpopular opinion, but I didn't care for Insidious when I saw it. I never saw the sequels because I didn't care for the first one. To be honest, maybe I should give that movie a rewatch and a second chance.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Off the top of my head:

Saw, Hostel, [REC] 1&2, The Descent, House of the Devil, Triangle, The Mist, Final Destination, Behind the Mask, The Strangers, Them, American Psycho, Shaun of the Dead, Zombieland, Dawn of the Dead remake, 28 Days Later, etc... I'm sure I forgot plenty of great ones too.

you also had a ton of great horror from outside America like Ichi the Killer, Let The Right One In, and so on.

There were a fuck ton of great horror movies in the 2000s, it's just that people either forgot about them, were too young to watch them, or they just watched mainstream shit and had no idea what was going back in the days where you still had to kind of seek out that shit.



It's fucking painful, it is not in any way a Saw movie. I literally don't remember anything about it except part of the convoluted ending and even that is almost nothing.

It's not a Saw movie, and I'm glad that it doesn't have the title, and I'm never gonna see it as one. Shit, Jigsaw was a much better movie.

I noticed you listed Triangle which is a great one. It's a flick I always try to recommend. During the movie night stream when the forum was down for a week I threw it on there and it was very divisive. Half the chat loved it and the other half hated it.

 

[Calandrino]

The 11th track off of Bringing Back the Bloodshed.

[Lyrics and Music by Maniac Neil]

LYRICS:

Death, murder, in your head.
Technicolor gore spewing images of horror in your head, now watch.
The screen turns red, cinematically dead.
Tools of the trade, tearing into teenager, flesh is exposed.
Voluptuous treat, ocular feast for the sleaze ball freak.
Outside the realms of normality we dwell,
Celluloid hell is now!

What, happened to, the films of yesterday?
The 70's and 80's were the golden age.
Horror films now are a fucking joke!
They make me choke!
Gone is the blood, gone are the tits.
Gone is everything that we fucking miss.
MTV shit is shoved down our goddamn throats!
The film makers of today give us no fucking hope!

Remakes are the fad, desecrating horror classics.
CG? What a drag! Save that shit for Pixar flicks!
Dawn of the Dead and TCM, are not immune to this lame-ass trend.
What's next, The Exorcist? It's safe to say, this is the end!

These dumb ass kids, love this shit.
They have no idea, who Cropsy is.
Wes Craven, you bastard! Look what you've done!
Last House on the Left to Scream?! There's no excuse, you should be hung!

[Lead: Maniac Neil]

PG-13 horror, is packing the seats.
This generation sucks! These kids are fucking weak!
The hip-hop influence, infecting the culture,
Busta Rhymes and Michael Myers?! This shit is fucking torture!
Direct-to-video shit, is almost as bad!
Crappy Photoshop covers, make me fucking sad!
Lack of ideas, regression through technology,
Will Peter Jackson save us? No, we get that lame-ass trilogy!

The blood is boiling in my veins.
It's driving me insane, the sickening feeling in my guts.
Spill onto the floor, my eyes want more,
Food for thought, I'd love to watch them rot from within.
The terror begins, irrational thought is a means to an end
Of this lame bullshit. I will not quit,
Until I, bring back the bloodshed!

I resort, to making my own "films".
Fantasy, becomes reality.
They don't want, to give me what I need.
The only way to get, what I want, is to kill!

[Lead: Maniac Neil]

I'll show, them what horror is.
They don't know, what urges lie within.
They will pay, for all that they've destroyed.
It's coming back, what used to be, is now!

 

[The Token Ethnic]

I noticed you listed Triangle which is a great one. It's a flick I always try to recommend. During the movie night stream when the forum was down for a week I threw it on there and it was very divisive. Half the chat loved it and the other half hated it.

That's the one that takes place on a boat with Melissa George, right? I keep on hearing the reaction to that movie is quite divisive. Found a rent by mail place and I've been picking up hard to find/out of print stuff. Never saw any of the sillier Guinea Pig films, so I rented Devil Woman Doctor. I really like the over the top gory slapstick, it would've been a nice direction if they kept on making those films.

 

[BrunoMattei]

That's the one that takes place on a boat with Melissa George, right? I keep on hearing the raction to that movie is quite divisive. Found a rent by mail place and I've been picking up hard to find/out of print stuff. Never saw any of the sillier Guinea Pig films, so I rented Devil Woman Doctor. I really like the over the top gory slapstick, it would've been a nice direction if they kept on making those films.

The first two Guinea Pig flicks are good for what they are. After that I'd recommend Android of Notre Dame and Mermaid in a Manhole.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I disagree on the 2010's being a golden age for horror, namely since half of those films I don't like at all, like Oculus, the Purge sequels, the Insidious movies, and pretty much anything doing with Chucky (never was a fan of that franchise, sadly)

At the same time, you do bring up a good point about indie horror and certain films like Train to Busan, Attack the Block, Tucker and Dale, Halloween 2018, 10 Cloverfield Lane, and A Quiet Place.

On second thought, the 2010's for horror is sort of like the 2000's was in terms of how bipolar it was, but on an even more intense level. The indie output for horror was better in the 2010's, that I will admit. Foreign horror got better too. Hollywood horror was worse in the 2010's than in the 2000's, but the movies that were good were very good.

Yeah I didn't mention sequels to The Purge for a good reason, same thing with sequels to The Conjuring or Insidious as well, etc... I definitely thought Oculus was great though.

I'm much more of a fan of foreign and indie horror in general, so that definitely colors my perspective in terms of which decade I find best. For example, my top 5 movies of that decade would include I Saw the Devil, You're Next, Bone Tomahawk & Resolution, which all got critical acclaim but by and far unknown to a majority of people, especially Resolution. Fifth one I would have to think really hard, and it might fluctuate on a daily basis, but those four are better than anything I can think of from the 2000s, except maybe You're Next which I'd admit might not be on the same level as the other three.

You should definitely give Insidious a second chance, I thought it was even better than The Conjuring.

I noticed you listed Triangle which is a great one. It's a flick I always try to recommend. During the movie night stream when the forum was down for a week I threw it on there and it was very divisive. Half the chat loved it and the other half hated it.

Triangle is a good filter when it comes to horror casuals.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Also, I can't speak enough about Resolution (2012) and how great it is. It's best to know very very little about it going in, but if you look at reviews basically every one who is not a retard gives it 5 star, while the others complain that 'I had no idea what was going on at the end also i regularly shit myself'.

More than anything, it's fucking unique. I can't think of a single movie to compare it it, or that it's similar to.

If you're sick of paint by the number movies give it a chance.

 

[Idiotron]

More than anything, it's fucking unique. I can't think of a single movie to compare it it, or that it's similar to.

The director/writer has other movies - Spring, Endless and Synchronic.
I would especially recommend the first 2, Synchronic kind of falls apart in the 2nd half.

Sadly, he's making a Marvel show for Disney+ now so his original approach to filmmaking and storytelling will be gone soon.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Yeah I recommended The Endless earlier, it's great but not as good as Resolution. Also they should be seen in order to be fully appreciated.

I was so excited for Synchronic and.... yeah it did not live up to the hype. It wasn't bad, the first half was actually fantastic, but the latter part, as you said, really kind of falls apart. Which is a shame.

Still, it wasn't a terrible movie and I hope he keeps getting bigger budgets to play with his ideas. Or maybe he should be restrained to smaller ones so he is more creative with it.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Also, I can't speak enough about Resolution (2012) and how great it is. It's best to know very very little about it going in, but if you look at reviews basically every one who is not a retard gives it 5 star, while the others complain that 'I had no idea what was going on at the end also i regularly shit myself'.

More than anything, it's fucking unique. I can't think of a single movie to compare it it, or that it's similar to.

If you're sick of paint by the number movies give it a chance.

I finished watching this. It was okay. It's not really horror. Vaguely horror at best.