UK Young people are rejecting work. Why?

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“I’m considering living in the wild, just trotting around the globe with little money,” reads a post on a Reddit forum for Neets. “I was working [in] a retail store and the first few hours were OK, then I had to deal with customers,” reads another. “I packed my bag and just left.”

In this forum, a community of 44,000 people from around the world share advice and discuss the challenges of being a Neet — an acronym for not in education, employment or training.

It is not just an online phenomenon. “I could never go back to working a normal job again,” Morgan, who left his role in 2020 and asked to remain anonymous, told the FT. “With inflation and rents rising, the incentive to devote all of my time to an employer to barely scrape by didn’t make sense any more.”

In the third quarter of this year, official UK figures showed 13 per cent of 16 to 24-year-olds were Neets, nearly 1mn people. Two-fifths of these were looking for work; the rest were “economically inactive”, neither working nor looking, opting out of the labour market completely.

This puts the number of economically inactive young people close to its highest level — a similar story in Europe and the US, where more than 1 in 10 young people are Neets.

While the term first gained traction in 1990s UK government policy, which sought to help older teenagers into work, it has since been adopted internationally and by a wider subculture of economically inactive people. Reddit’s Neet forum includes people in their 50s; recent posts depict a “self-loathing man of inaction late 20s/early 30s” or ask if “30+ NEETS [can] turn their life around?”

After starting out as a car salesman ten years ago, Morgan, now 30, was forced out of work by depression and an illness that took him in and out of hospital. When he recovered, the pandemic had shut his industry down: he opted out of work, using the time to teach himself how to repair old cars and post videos online.

“My time to develop my interests was worth more than I could make working, even if it wasn’t making me any money,” he says. But eventually the bills began to pile up. “I was put out on the street for unpaid rent. I lived in my car for a few days before a friend took me in. I’m lucky that’s where I am today.”

Josh, 24, dropped out of university after deciding it wasn’t worth the money. “I went on to have a few retail jobs but I found it tough to interact with people in the workplace because of my social anxiety,” he told the FT. I’ve moved back in with my parents now, who are able to support me. I help my mum around the house and I’m trying to teach myself programming.”

Louise Murphy, economist at the Resolution Foundation think-tank, says mental health is one driver of rising Neet numbers: in 20 years, the proportion of young people reporting a disorder such as anxiety or bipolar has increased from a quarter to a third. This makes them more likely to be out of work: an RF report found between 2018 and 2022, 21 per cent of 18 to 24-year-olds with mental health problems were jobless, compared with 13 per cent of those without.

Niall O’Higgins, an International Labour Organization economist, suggests younger people are also disenchanted with the quality of jobs on offer, and are “lacking prospects for development, workplace training and the ability to build up their options”.

Employers make themselves more attractive, he says, by offering flexibility and support, including “exploring alternatives in terms of organisation of work”. In a survey of Gen Z workers by talent sourcing platform A.Team, 80 per cent said the four-day working week should be the norm, 60 per cent would like a hybrid working model, and half valued training opportunities.

Murphy says nurturing relationships can have a significant impact. “When we asked what young people would change about the world of work, they didn’t ask for big, flashy reforms. They wanted to have more human, understanding managers.” This might include additions like one-to-one catch-ups which are not the norm in all professions.

“I resent the accusation that young people don’t want to work,” Morgan says. “Everyone wants to contribute, but the reward for devoting your time to doing so is no longer worth it in many cases.”

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"I don't want to work a wagie job to pay muzzies gibs" is pure cope you workshy sods.

I do understand why some people prefer to lie in bed all day instead of scraping ice off the car windscreen at 7am, but you're like this because the government has allowed you to become lazy. I'm sure you'll still feel effin valid, and not regret taking those evening classes in 10 years time when you're scraping your dole money together for the kids Christmas box.
 
I think eventually the gibs will end. It won't really be done fairly when it is but something will break.

It is far more challenging to find meaningful work but that isnt an excuse to live at home forever. Just find a skill... hell even if you don't want to work commit to drawing or something and get commission money coming in.
 
The idea of having to save for retirement when you live in a first world country is insane. You pay taxes all your life, you're taxed on your salary , taxed when you buy something, taxed when you sell something, you have to pay to raise the children and you're also supposed to be saving for a fucking retirement?

Free healthcare , housing, looking after the elderly and disabled, these are pillars of a functioning developed society.

But no let's turn healthcare into a business, housing into investments, and let the old starve to death cos they didn't manage to save up for the final 20-30 years of their live.

Comparing a hard working person who spent their entire life contributing to the system and the society, to a migrant nigger free loader is so fucking stupid that I recommend you put a gun in your mouth and pull a trigger.

Healthcare is never free,it is free at point of use, shit for brains.

Rope yourself and enjoy your poverty stricken retirement you cunt. I'll be great, I'm in my early 40s and can retire at 50. I'm all set because unlike you I don't see freebies from society as a given.

You are the exact same as a money grabbing sand nigger who expects his gibmedats for ever because butbutbut IVE PAID IN.

You are the exact same as them. No different at all.
 
Farmers in Middle Ages working every day backbreaking labor to cultivate a field only for a draught to ruin it - "This is god's will and I will try again next season".
Unironic modern NEETs - "I NEED TO TALK WITH OTHER PEOPLE, IT'S TOO HARD, JUST GIVE ME GIBS".

There are good arguments against the modern job market, but people always needed to do hard work to live.
 
Farmers in Middle Ages working every day backbreaking labor to cultivate a field only for a draught to ruin it - "This is god's will and I will try again next season".
Unironic modern NEETs - "I NEED TO TALK WITH OTHER PEOPLE, IT'S TOO HARD, JUST GIVE ME GIBS".

There are good arguments against the modern job market, but people always needed to do hard work to live.
They only diid a full 7-9 hour day during harvest time. The rest of the year it was only a couple of hours a day. Plus they didn’t work Sundays or Holy Days and there’s a lot of Holy Days.

Reject modernity. Embrace feudalism.
 
Lemme guess. You're fast approaching retirement and never saved a penny for it so you're desperate that the state pension remains.

Butbutbut muh soshul contract! Gubmint said they'd look after me! The welfare state from the cradle to the grave!!!!

Fuck right off with that mentality, it's as much a fucking pestilence as "imma get in a boat and go to UK and say I am gay or a Christian and lie and lie and lie and go back to my " unsafe" country and bring my cousin back and have a dozen retard babies".
Kill yourself.
 
I said the demolition man quote, but the truth is that there really isn't that much in the way of jobs being created. Not for young Americans, anyway. Tech jobs go to ranjeet and his 35 cousins because hus brother climbed the ladder at technosoft and now runs it. The military is now just government funded gender transition care. What little manufacturing thats left in this country is either heavily gatekept union work or requires skills that are no longer taught. The liberal government is trying to crush the oil sector and either you work for gates-agra or your too small and your farm will crush you because gates-agra owns the company making the seeds, all the farm equipment dealerships and the stockhouses and has a vested interest in crushing you. Lupe has been working the window at mcdonalds for 30 years and doesn't ever ask for a raise, theres a billion brewpubs that no one ever goes to and even legal drug dealing has hit saturation.
 
They only diid a full 7-9 hour day during harvest time. The rest of the year it was only a couple of hours a day. Plus they didn’t work Sundays or Holy Days and there’s a lot of Holy Days.

Reject modernity. Embrace feudalism.
That's such an unrealistic meme. You can simply watch modern farmers with all their modern toys still struggle, and extrapolate how absolutely horrific it was in the past.

Tilling the fields can be a menace if you didn't have a beast of burden on hand. Planting would fuck up your back. And harvesting would have high danger of losing a finger.

No shit when cities started growing in the industrial revolution people went the fuck away from farming.

Farmers worked dusk to dawn and those with free time were the ones unlikely to survive the next harvest.
 
I mean, TL;DR, if your standard of living is going to be exactly the same whether you work or not, then why would you work?
 
That's such an unrealistic meme. You can simply watch modern farmers with all their modern toys still struggle, and extrapolate how absolutely horrific it was in the past.
You had an entire field of peasants. Plus you could have sex with the hot daughters of your workforce and just hang anyone who complained. It was truly a more enlightened time.
 
I mean, TL;DR, if your standard of living is going to be exactly the same whether you work or not, then why would you work?
Exactly! I've lost count of the amount of times I've heard late milennials and early zoomers working minimum wage with cars. They can't pay off their car, but they can't go to work without it. They're effectively getting into debt to work or having their parents pay for them to work.
it's fucking insane
 
Because they're fucking lazy and there's no incentive to work nor punishment to not work. Cut the benefits from all, including Ali and Umbungo, for them to work or be deported - if foreign, or starve to death if they're native.

It may sound harsh, but a really fucking bad recession with absolute poverty and desperation is what the UK needs to really sharpen its' senses to what is important.

Anyone who says they're poor today - especially while using an iphone or having a netflix subscription, needs a tenner in a gulag.
oi those schoolchildren gotta be paying for that milk themselves. wot yew think, the crown is just gonna give MILK to kids? Milk costs money, love. The crown isn't made of it. If your parents can't afford half a quid for your milkie than you're not getting your snacky before nap time. Thatcher's gonna fix all you lot, just you watch.
 
I mean, TL;DR, if your standard of living is going to be exactly the same whether you work or not, then why would you work?
There is a third option which is working for more than minimum wage. It's not some unrealistic pipe dream to plaster walls or fix steel together for a living.

Anyone who thinks there's no work out there for them other than slaving away on a production line for pennies is woefully misinformed and it's not ethical to encourage them to instead waste their life away on the dole.
 
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