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Scientists here in the west are quite understanding of the danger, and abaolutely fucking autistic about the security protocols. Chinese scientists though? Well. The results speak for themselves. Here's two anecdotes to illustrate the sheer unbridalled autism of lab conditions:
-here's one I witnessed but didn't participate: a scientist wearing 3 layers of gloves. You might say: 3 layers? Why? Well: first layer was the normal lab gloves. Nothing too weird there, you're working with samples, even if they're noninfectious you could pollute the sample and that's not ok, so you wear them. Right. Well before getting the 2nd layer we get the first disinfectant, you don't wanna possibly pollute the lab equipment, so even though you're wearing gloves, just in case, clean them, even if they're new. Second layer is part of the equipment, labs for contagious shit often feature a screen to keep the shit behind. This screen sometimes have thick rubber gloves attached to it so you don't have to put your arms around it. This is specially true for any lab using radioactive markers. Well, second layer of disinfectant: those gloves are static, non-disposable, so before ysing them slather that shit in disinfectant, and then 3rd layer. Said disinfectant can fuck up the sample, so cover the thick rubber gloves with disposable gloves to protect it. Hence, the triple layered autistic glove monster from hell. Now you may think: what kinda shit they were working on to have this kinda autism at full display? Ecoli. It was god damned ecoli. Radioactive markers means the screen has to be used, even if the risk of infection is practically 0.
-and one I actually participated in: here's the first time I realized the sheer level of autism of biolabs during lab practices: the protocol which we were under strict supervision to ensure we followed call for us to put the sealed container with the sample inside the presurized bell (while wearing gloves already of course), then use disinfectant on the gloves before entering the bell with our hands, use a disposable pipette contained in an individual package which is only ever opened within the bell and dispose of both the package and the pipette in a container inside the bell after use. All this just to add an enzime to the sample which is resealed within the bell before being taken to the incubator, then use disinfectant again on the gloves. Seems like a really strict protocol for really dangerous stuff. Huh? Well that was human skin tissue. That... that was just skin. The reason for this protocol is not to protect us, but the sample, and avoid pollution. THIS IS THE LEVEL OF AUTISM PRESENT IN WESTERN LABS. This is the BASE level of autism for PERFECTLY SAFE SAMPLES. Just saying, this shit wouldn't have escaped over here! China though? Well you already heard that guy that worked there rile against the conditions, AND WITH GOOD REASON!
And yet your story inadvertently shows where the systemic autism fails. Look at your second story. “Dispose of the pipette and it’s packaging within the bell”. The Scientists May be autistic about this. But the cleaning staff? Any process that creates physical waste such as sterile packaging materials ultimately gets trickled down to being dealt with by unskilled poorly paid cleaning staff. Yeah sure you red bag the bio waste. What happens to it next? How does it mysteriously disappear each night?
The CDC had a major panic a few years back because they mishandled some level 4 materials and were afraid contaminated workers had gone home possibly carrying something nasty.
