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When will you stop contributing to the demand of prostitution and sex trafficking? When will you stop cooming your life away? When will you start treating yourself with the respect you deserve?
When will you stop being a coomer?
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Coomers are extremely annoying and insufferable, and anyone who makes porn their personality deserves to be bullied but most anti coomers come across as equally annoying and insufferable and I think both are huge faggots and should fuck already to solve the issue
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Is it really considerate to call myself a coomer if I rape men?
Chuck McGill
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Those goalposts sure moved fast. Why is this argument is only ever applicable to porn? Do you check with the wagie at McDonald's to make sure he has other options before you accept a burger from him? How about the Mexican guy that rotated your tires? What about the African kid that mined the lithium for your phone? If you need enthusiastic consent from every single person you accept services from in your life, you're going to run out of things you can do really, really fast.
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What made you stop?
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I don't ever go to McDonald's, ew. But this comparison isn't even remotely fair. The wagie at McDonald's isn't doing something that's inherently dehumanizing and degrading. He's not committing career suicide. If he wants to work somewhere else afte McDonald's, he's capable of doing so, he doesn't have to worry about destroying his reputation. I think it's pretty obvious that doing porn and having a wagie job are worlds apart.
Again, nothing inherently dehumanizing or degrading in changing someone's tires. Perfectly honest work that needs to be done. The African kid that mined the lithium, that's the first example that actually makes sense. That kid is being forced to be a slave (like many of the people who are trafficked for porn), and so it is an ethical problem to buy phones. I have no way of denying this. But this is a whataboutism.
I'm all for stopping child (and adult) slavery, and that's why I've owned the same phone for the last 10 years, that being said, that's a whole different problem and trying to be ethical in one area doesn't mean that you have to suddenly be perfect everywhere else. The better it gets, the better it gets.
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The point was that all work is demeaning and not really optional. And if you think most wagie jobs aren't incredibly degrading, you need to give your head a shake. Most of the people that work the jobs I listed basically have to do it or else they go hungry and get evicted. If a coal miner gets cancer or blows out his back, everyone's just dandy with that. A woman willingly opens her legs in an air-conditioned environment for 2 hours, you clutch your pearls and curse the heavens. I've spent the last ten-odd years being screeched at that sex work is real work. If that's true, it sounds like the complaints you've levied(besides sex-trafficking) boil down to "someone's job sucks and they don't want to do it". To which I say get in line. If anything, wouldn't their life be made worse by not having that last desperate means of paying their bills?
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same shit, different words. most people naturally have an impulse towards eusocial behaviors because that's how humanity survives. it obviously varies from person to person, but to some extent, everyone - except people with actual emotional disabilities, i.e. sociopaths - feels some urge to engineer their own behavior to promote social bonds. but when you become cynical about other people, it disincentivizes that, resulting in your antisocial tendencies hanging out.
this is a retarded comparison on the face of it. jerking off is not an evil comparable to literal chattel slavery, you fuckin sperg. you're also talking about two different things here: porn use, and porn abuse. most things in life can be healthy if used in moderation, and destructive if used in excess. alcohol is an excellent social lubricant in moderation, but causes well-documented social and physical problems if used in excess. codeine cough syrup is an excellent medication if you need it, but a pretty dangerous drug if you use it recreationally (i.e. lean). porn is no different. porn use can be as simple as a man keeping his natural sexual desires under control, which is cool and good. the "constant escalation" part only comes into it if you're using porn to chase the dopamine rush for its own sake, in which case it is porn abuse, and like any other kind of abuse, it erodes you psychologically because you're putting the pleasure before your own health. nominal porn use does not hurt the brain, chronic porn use does.
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All faggots are single, that's why your main sexual outlet is casual anonymous sex with dozens of new partners a year, every year, resulting in massive STD distribution in the faggot population about 1.5x higher than the general population. This is despite anal sex having less potential to spread numerous common STDs because the anal mucosa are less susceptible to successful infection by those STDs
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I spent years and years trying to stop and I never could, even though I knew it was wrong on all levels. I knew I was harming myself, I knew I was harming other people, and I knew it was just a coping mechanism.
These are the things that I think allowed me to stop and no longer even have to fight against the impulse of watching porn because the impulse disappeared:
1: I realized I needed to make things drastically easier for myself. I had always had access to porn, via the internet. So the first thing I did was remove myself from that. I stopped having an internet connection at home. I have a dumb phone, so I couldn't use data to access the internet. If I wanted or needed to use the internet, I went to the nearest library. Getting rid of a constant access to the internet was probably the single biggest thing I could have done to end the addiction.
Even today, I still don't have constant internet access, because it was incredibly freeing, and I don't miss it at all. I use a 4G router that you can take with you anywhere. It usually sits in my parents' house, and I borrow if I need to have access to the internet for a couple of days, like I'm doing right now, since libraries close in the Christmas holidays.
If you live with others, and this isn't feasible, you can just ask them to change the wifi password and disable the WPS button in the router. Change to a dumb phone and voilà.
I recommend doing this for a period of at least 3 months to allow your brain to detox from the behavior, but only you know how much time you need, depending on the severity of your addiction.
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2: Find out why you're addicted. What prompted you to start watching porn in the first place? What are you running away from by numbing yourself with porn? Get to the root cause of your addiction. Is it a fear of intimacy with others? (by intimacy I don't mean sex, I mean deep intimate closeness). Are you afraid of being vulnerable with others? For me, shadow work was one of the biggest pieces of the puzzle. Learning how to feel uncomfortable, and being okay with it. Not constantly trying to drown your emotions out because they might be painful. I've learned that I much prefer feeling those uncomfortable emotions than numbing myself into oblivion with mindless escapism. Dropping into those uncomfortable emotions (sadness, loneliness, fear) and allowing yourself to fully feel them and process them.
Teal Swan was of enormous help with this thing in particular.
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3. This one might sound a little weird.
I marked my progress every night on a calendar, 1 x the first 3 days, 2 x's the next 3 days, 3 x's the next 3 days and so on. (For every consecutive day that I didn't consume porn). When I got to 12 x's I restarted the cycle, starting with 1x again for the first 3 days.
I made the calendar myself, a really simple one. All I did was get a cheap A3 sketchbook and used one page for each month, drew the grid and the days with markers. I'd stick them to my bathroom wall, and kept them even after the month was over.
This allowed me to get a better sense of time, and how long it had been since I last watched porn. I did this cycle thing in order to not burden myself with pressure, I felt that if I kept adding more x's indefinitely, it would feel like I was progressively going to break some huge progress if I relapsed. By dividing it in segments of 3 and restarting the cycle at 12 x's I feel like that pressure just wasn't there anymore.
I had tried marking my progress in previous attempts, but it never was successful because there was always a sense of "how long am I gonna last this time", implying that it was just a matter of time; I would eventually relapse. I don't know if this is making sense, but this new method really helped me, even if it seems superficial.
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4. I started reading Rudolf Steiner's books. Getting a solid daily spiritual practice helped me immensely. Also, the constant reminder that there are other planes of existence that are just as real as our physical reality made me feel more grounded and more connected to all beings, which made it a lot more difficult for me to watch porn. Knowing that we're constantly receiving help from higher worlds also gave me huge strength. Some of the books that helped me a lot by him were:
- The Spiritual Hierarchies
- Knowledge of Higher Worlds and its Attainment
- Occult Science
- Michael's Mission (as in Archangel Michael)
- Problems of Society: An Esoteric View: From Luciferic Past to Ahrimanic Future
- Christ and the Human Soul
If you can't afford them or you'd rather listen to them in audiobook form, here's a website where you can download all of them for free: rudolfsteineraudio.com
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5. I created a cleansing ritual. I wrote the document attached. Every New Moon and Full Moon, and sometimes when I just felt like it, I'd go to the woods and burn it after reading it out loud, feeling every word (VERY CAREFULLY, DON'T CAUSE A FIRE PLEASE). I can't understate the incredible effect it had on my recovery. It's suited to me as someone who's attracted to males, feel free to modify the document to suit your desired outcome, all I've done is translate it through DeepL.
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6. One last thing I'm editing in now, which I almost forgot; find someone you trust in which you can confide in and tell them about your problem. Shame is completely damaging when trying to overcome an addiction, and can cause you to relapse, seeking comfort in the security of the hell you're used to.
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If you want to ask me anything, or want advice, feel free to message me privately.
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Guys try not too hard on OP, he's clearly mentally retarded as he doesn't believe viruses are real including AIDs, Monkeypox, and most STDs
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holy fucking shit bro, it sounds like your issues run way deeper than porn. I hope you've found some meaningful peace due to this. godspeed on your journey. life is a daily trial, never give up fighting.
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friend, it really does sound like you're projecting. I get the sense that you've turned your own personal demon into something much larger and more generally applicable than it actually is. if this is working for you in your own life, please continue judiciously. but I do believe we have a fundamental disagreement on the objective elements of this topic. my opinion reflects my own experience with porn use, as I believe your opinion reflects yours, and they seem to be radically different in character.
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OP is gay, posts a ton, believes in odd paranoid conspiracy theories, and had a problem with coomerism.
Are you sure that your problem isn't just that you're on a bunch of meth?
And anyways this is like an alcoholic who has to go to 3 AA meetings a day to avoid getting plastered asking people when they're going to stop having a drinking problem.
Most dudes who don't want to live life with a death grip on their penis simply decide that watching porn makes them feel weird then stop doing it.
Are you sure that your problem isn't just that you're on a bunch of meth?
And anyways this is like an alcoholic who has to go to 3 AA meetings a day to avoid getting plastered asking people when they're going to stop having a drinking problem.
Most dudes who don't want to live life with a death grip on their penis simply decide that watching porn makes them feel weird then stop doing it.
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No, there are just things that are wrong, period. This isn't even about the addictive nature of porn, it's about the ethical implications for others. It doesn't matter if you watch porn once a month or every single day, you're still driving up the demand for porn and trafficking with every search and every view.
Just because you do something that's wrong just a few times doesn't mean it's suddenly okay. It's not very complicated, really.
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what about drawn or computer-generated porn, or homemade porn i.e. a couple posting recordings of their normal sex-having? I don't have hard statistics but I believe this represents a very significant (and growing) if not the majority share of porn being consumed on the internet these days.
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Research shows that porn consumption, even moderate porn consumption leads to viewing other humans more as objects. This happens even with drawn porn, written porn, etc. it doesn't matter. You're using the idea of a person to get yourself off, but it's merely the physicality of that person, not them as a whole that you're using. And that's effectively what we do when we consume porn, use others. It's not like an intimate sexual relationship where you actually connect more to the person, it's entirely one-sided. Even with fictional porn, you're viewing people as objects, not as human beings. This is also backed up by research, the part of the brain that activates when you watch porn is the part that deals with objects not with people.
There are pedophiles who want sex baby dolls, arguing that it's better to have sex with a doll than with an actual baby. But again, the research shows that escalation is needed, so this is a recipe for disaster. Ted Bundy started his psychopathic journey with porn magazines, which were arguably a lot milder than the kind of porn that's available today on the internet.
Here's the problem: we have no idea if this is real or not. They could be a couple recording themselves and uploading it to the internet, or it could be trafficking. There's no way of knowing. And even if it were a couple willingly doing so, why are they doing such a thing? Would you personally do it? There's no way a person who's well emotionally and psychologically would cross those boundaries. Every interview I've seen with people who are in the porn industry reveals a fucked up childhood, most of the time sexual abuse is involved. So even that (onlyfans, people doing porn independently) would be taking advantage of very damaged people. (and fueling the demand for more)
I've documented many of these instances here:
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Should this be converted into a "Debate this user about x" thread? 
