Containment What will happen when Barb dies?

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Pinkamena Diane Pie said:
On a side note: How did no one contact the authorities? Their home, pre fire was uninhabitable. I thought after a certain point the authorities step in if you have too much clutter. (Sometimes even cutting off firemen services)
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IIRC, and feel free to correct me Kiwi's, a few w-een's actually *did* call authorities to tell them about the living conditions at OPL's house, but either no one cared enough to go, or the conditions didn't seem so bad to any authority who *did* go out to the house.
 
Frank Rizzo said:
IIRC, and feel free to correct me Kiwi's, a few w-een's actually *did* call authorities to tell them about the living conditions at OPL's house, but either no one cared enough to go, or the conditions didn't seem so bad to any authority who *did* go out to the house.
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I know someone tried to get Chris's family on Hoarders, which didn't happen because they (Chris's family) didn't answer the phone.
 
Lysistrata said:
I know someone tried to get Chris's family on Hoarders, which didn't happen because they (Chris's family) didn't answer the phone.
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Frank Rizzo said:
IIRC, and feel free to correct me Kiwi's, a few w-een's actually *did* call authorities to tell them about the living conditions at OPL's house, but either no one cared enough to go, or the conditions didn't seem so bad to any authority who *did* go out to the house.
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I`m pretty sure the authorities just didn't care. It's seems like the former, considering the conditions.

If I had to judge based on the video, it was bad enough for them to do something. The moment that they got the infestations should have forced them to do something. While bedbugs don`t cause disease (they can make you paranoid,though) it's everything else. Mice and rats carry loads of diseases, especially their droppings. Cockroaches are similar, though I doubt he had cockroaches; they eat bedbugs.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were sent invitations to Hoarders. They would be perfect. Though, I am surprised no one bothered to call Animal Cops. They will take your animal if your a hoarder living like this while at the same time, help the owner.
 
Pinkamena Diane Pie said:
Barbara should really monitor his spending like Bob has, but she won't because she herself is a spender. Chris needs someone to watch him after she dies, if only for his spending habits. When she dies, he`s practically screwed due to his periodic spending habits.

I say he will be broke after she dies. People will give him the money needed at first for funeral cost, but then his debt will rise. He can't afford living in that home, if that's the case.
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Chris' debt doesn't increase. He hit the maximum awhile ago. It's stable indefinitely (and has been).

Barb has much worse debt than Chris does.
Lysistrata said:
I know someone tried to get Chris's family on Hoarders, which didn't happen because they (Chris's family) didn't answer the phone.
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Ween myth.
 
Marvin said:
Chris' debt doesn't increase. He hit the maximum awhile ago. It's stable indefinitely (and has been).

Barb has much worse debt than Chris does.

cool guy myth.
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Well, barring the debt of course. I don't think he`d plan ahead and save the money for something useful or use it for useful items. If he gets a certain amount already, and he uses it already, it's hard to trust him when he's on his own with bills he doesn't pay for.

His SSI can only be stretched so thin already. If he had to pay for everything there, he wouldn't make it due to him immediately spending it on Lego.

He refuses to leave the home when she dies, as stated by one Kiwi member. It would be significantly easier for him to rent an apartment until he learns to get a job so at least he wouldn't need to pay some of the bills that home owning requires.

My main gripe is his spending, but not the debt portion. He can't live on his check if it's gone so quickly
 
Pinkamena Diane Pie said:
Well, barring the debt of course. I don't think he`d plan ahead and save the money for something useful or use it for useful items. If he gets a certain amount already, and he uses it already, it's hard to trust him when he's on his own with bills he doesn't pay for.

His SSI can only be stretched so thin already. If he had to pay for everything there, he wouldn't make it due to him immediately spending it on Lego.

He refuses to leave the home when she dies, as stated by one Kiwi member. It would be significantly easier for him to rent an apartment until he learns to get a job so at least he wouldn't need to pay some of the bills that home owning requires.

My main gripe is his spending, but not the debt portion. He can't live on his check if it's gone so quickly
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Uhh... y'know, Chris can pay bills...

Like the only problem with living too close to your budget line is that you can't afford luxuries. I'm sure that'll be uncomfortable for Chris (he can't buy legos/video games), but it won't mean he's out on the street.
 
Marvin said:
Uhh... y'know, Chris can pay bills...

Like the only problem with living too close to your budget line is that you can't afford luxuries. I'm sure that'll be uncomfortable for Chris (he can't buy legos/video games), but it won't mean he's out on the street.
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Well he will be ok until something happens; the house needs a new roof or the car loses a tire. Fatty's issue is that he has very little room for when shit happens as he's tapped out his credit limit long beforehand.

With some luck he'll find someone to bail him out the 1st or 2nd time but sooner or later he'll be fucked.
 
Marvin said:
Uhh... y'know, Chris can pay bills...

Like the only problem with living too close to your budget line is that you can't afford luxuries. I'm sure that'll be uncomfortable for Chris (he can't buy legos/video games), but it won't mean he's out on the street.
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True. Though, judging from one of the earlier posts (with Barbs teeth) he seems a bit skewed with what he should put his money towards instead. That and the prospect of saving seems lost on him. He won't be on the streets, but he`d probably be better in an apartment instead where the bills are less. (Or, rather, you pay fewer bills)
 
Sweet and Savoury said:
Well he will be ok until something happens; the house needs a new roof or the car loses a tire. Fatty's issue is that he has very little room for when shit happens as he's tapped out his credit limit long beforehand.

With some luck he'll find someone to bail him out the 1st or 2nd time but sooner or later he'll be fucked.
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Actually, it's the reverse. Chris would have a few missteps in the beginning but he'd adapt long term.
Pinkamena Diane Pie said:
True. Though, judging from one of the earlier posts (with Barbs teeth) he seems a bit skewed with what he should put his money towards instead. That and the prospect of saving seems lost on him. He won't be on the streets, but he`d probably be better in an apartment instead where the bills are less. (Or, rather, you pay fewer bills)
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What do you mean?
 
Marvin said:
Actually, it's the reverse. Chris would have a few missteps in the beginning but he'd adapt long term.

What do you mean?
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Apparently on Kiwi there was something posted about Barbara needing teeth fixed for 600 dollars. He was begging for cash despite having high medallion sales. (Sometimes speculated that he would spend it on Lego instead of helping her)
 
Pinkamena Diane Pie said:
Apparently on Kiwi there was something posted about Barbara needing teeth fixed for 600 dollars. He was begging for cash despite having high medallion sales. (Sometimes speculated that he would spend it on Lego instead of helping her)
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Barb was pestering him about that, so he pushed that onto his audience. If Barb needs money, she'll take it from him.
 
Marvin said:
Like the only problem with living too close to your budget line is that you can't afford luxuries. I'm sure that'll be uncomfortable for Chris (he can't buy legos/video games), but it won't mean he's out on the street.
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Yeah. Chris can pay bills just fine. But he'll never save up money, because he'll never consider that there's a reason to not buy toys with leftover money today.
 
Alec Benson Leary said:
Yeah. Chris can pay bills just fine. But he'll never save up money, because he'll never consider that there's a reason to not buy toys with leftover money today.
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Is there a reason for him to save money? There are a bunch of reasons people save money.

Saving up for something like travel or big purchases. Chris doesn't really have much interest in that. Nothing he wants would take much more than a couple months of saving.

Long-term stuff like children's education and retirement. Nope.

Hedging against the risk of some event like losing your job. As long as Chris keeps getting the tugboat he is fine. If it disappeared for some reason he would be pretty fucked. Having a few grand in the bank doesn't change either of those facts.

Peace of mind. What mind?

The way I think about it is this. Suppose Chris one a few grand in the lottery. Where would that money go? In all likelihood, it would go to a bunch of small things. New old lady outfits. Vidya. Fast food. Lego, or whatever his hobby du jour is. He would just up his consumption of those. If he cut down on his spending on stupid little crap for a couple years and put a couple grand away, he could say to himself "Oh good, now I have some extra money, what do I want to spend it on?" But his answer would be "the same stupid little crap I have been not buying for the past couple years. What a waste of time and energy that saving was."
 
Petronella said:
Chris has never had to learn to save money for an emergency. He's always had someone to bail him out.
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That and the concept of emergencies seems to be pretty alien to him. He knows bad stuff happens, he can even see some stuff coming, but most of the time he has this weird view of the world like warped karma, he thinks since he's a good person bad things just won't happen to him since he doesn't deserve them to and if they do it's always someone else's fault, never his, hence he can still get someone else to pay for it. He's the hero of his story and in his stories bad things don't tend to happen to the hero unless they can be fixed in a matter of seconds.
 
I've maintained for a long time that he's crazy. Not in any way that would stand up in court, but just in the sense that he's crazy. The sky is a different color in his world (certainly not FREAKING BLUE). So he's able to interpret and rewrite situations pretty easily to cast himself as the blameless victim. He's stupid and he's crazy. The two conditions dovetail beautifully. But I do think that he properly understands how things will play out in a crisis. If he does absolutely nothing, an adult will come along and fix it. He doesn't have to do anything. Eventually, some agency will swoop in and keep him from dying of starvation and exposure. And since he doesn't like doing things anyway, it's a great arrangement for him. His house burns down? Do nothing. He gets arrested? Do nothing. If I'm reading his current situation properly, he's being handed a diversionary program by the court because he's crazy and stupid. And he'll do the bare minimum that the adults require, and he'll get away with it. Unless (or until) he does something on par with pepper spraying another innocent bystander, he'll be able to live comfortably by doing nothing.
 
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