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"Would Chris really send Barb to hospice if Barb was soon to die, or would he let Barb die in the house?"
secondary question: "Would Barb really allow Chris to send her to hospice, even if she was soon to death?"

She threatens to kill herself if you even try to move her garbage out. If she can't stop you from moving her out of the house, she's so near dead it doesn't matter. She's dying in there, I'm pretty sure of it. She is not being moved out.

I'm more sure of that than that Chris will have to be dragged out kicking and screaming.
 
I'm going to speak from experience for a moment. I'll just say I've experienced first hand what Chris is going to experience when barb dies.

Unfortunately, Chris (and very possibly Cole) are going to absorb all of Borbs debt. He will then absorb the medical bills, funeral bills etc. The only way Chris will be able to keep the house is if he pays it off/buys it. Since Barb more than likely has zero savings, Chris/Cole will take the entire blow with no cushion. Of course this going to be a long drawn out process. And with Chris' autism, Cole will probably be the one who handles all of paper work and legal matters that come with a death such as barbs. Within a few months, the bank will start coming for whatever assets they can. With Chris being a grade A autist, legally disabled, things may go a little different.

When Barb dies, it is going to be a very shitty time for Chris. I can't stress that enough. It's really not going to be the next amazing saga we are all waiting for. It's going to be awful.
 
I'm going to speak from experience for a moment. I'll just say I've experienced first hand what Chris is going to experience when barb dies.

Unfortunately, Chris (and very possibly Cole) are going to absorb all of Borbs debt. He will then absorb the medical bills, funeral bills etc. The only way Chris will be able to keep the house is if he pays it off/buys it. Since Barb more than likely has zero savings, Chris/Cole will take the entire blow with no cushion. Of course this going to be a long drawn out process. And with Chris' autism, Cole will probably be the one who handles all of paper work and legal matters that come with a death such as barbs. Within a few months, the bank will start coming for whatever assets they can. With Chris being a grade A autist, legally disabled, things may go a little different.

When Barb dies, it is going to be a very shitty time for Chris. I can't stress that enough. It's really not going to be the next amazing saga we are all waiting for. It's going to be awful.

Cole has no connection to any of this, gives zero fucks about any of it, and in all likelihood, does not give a single fuck about the estate or the house. This isn't Dickensian England and you do not inherit your parents' debts.
 
ANSWER TO THREAD-TITLE QUESTION: We'll have to find a new place to put Ken's shrimp, should he ever get one. (That image in tonight's "Happy!" episode, which somewhat continued for seconds after, was disturbing!)
 
Cole has no connection to any of this, gives zero fucks about any of it, and in all likelihood, does not give a single fuck about the estate or the house. This isn't Dickensian England and you do not inherit your parents' debts.

That's not entirely true. It depends on the state and the circumstances. Credit card debt cannot be inherited unless you cosigned. Mortgage is a tricky issue as well. In that case Chris will most likely be asked to either sell the estate to pay off the mortgage or, continue paying on it if he wishes to live there still. In the state of Virginia, you can inherent medical debt in the case that the estate cannot pay it off alone. Giving that Barb has absolutely shit in the bank and the house is worth nothing, Chris/Cole are going to be footing the bill if she goes into hospice/nursing/the hospital for any reason.
If barb financed anything with a bank/ credit, they'll come for what they can.

As much as Cole wishes he wasn't a part of it, he'll probably be stuck as the one who makes decisions. Whenever the last parent dies, one child is designated to make the decisions on the assets, funeral etc. (I forget the name of this term) Since Cole is arguably the least autistic child Barb ever shat out, it'll probably be him.

Either way, Chris is coming out in the negatives when she dies.
 
That's not entirely true. It depends on the state and the circumstances. Credit card debt cannot be inherited unless you cosigned. Mortgage is a tricky issue as well. In that case Chris will most likely be asked to either sell the estate to pay off the mortgage or, continue paying on it if he wishes to live there still. In the state of Virginia, you can inherent medical debt in the case that the estate cannot pay it off alone. Giving that Barb has absolutely shit in the bank and the house is worth nothing, Chris/Cole are going to be footing the bill if she goes into hospice/nursing/the hospital for any reason.
If barb financed anything with a bank/ credit, they'll come for what they can.

As much as Cole wishes he wasn't a part of it, he'll probably be stuck as the one who makes decisions. Whenever the last parent dies, one child is designated to make the decisions on the assets, funeral etc. (I forget the name of this term) Since Cole is arguably the least autistic child Barb ever shat out, it'll probably be him.

Either way, Chris is coming out in the negatives when she dies.

lol
 
Cole has no connection to any of this, gives zero fucks about any of it, and in all likelihood, does not give a single fuck about the estate or the house. This isn't Dickensian England and you do not inherit your parents' debts.

Cole wants to stay as far away from Barb as possible.
Even in a timeline where debt inheritance still existed he'd try to get away from it somehow.
 
that was funny how the poster was actually thinking cole would be doing paper work about barbs death.
Are you autistic enough to think that Cole is autistic enough to let his extremely autistic brother handle all of the paper and possibly fuck it up because he's too autisitic to get a lawyer to do it for him?
 
Are you autistic enough to think that Cole is autistic enough to let his extremely autistic brother handle all of the paper and possibly fuck it up because he's too autisitic to get a lawyer to do it for him?

He has no interest whatsoever in dealing with any of it. So far as he is concerned, they're not even family. Why would he even bother unless he could make a claim on the estate?

This isn't Dickensian England. They can't enslave him and demand he do shit for free. Unless he actually wants something from the estate, he has no reason whatsoever to give a shit.
 
He has no interest whatsoever in dealing with any of it. So far as he is concerned, they're not even family. Why would he even bother unless he could make a claim on the estate?

This isn't Dickensian England. They can't enslave him and demand he do shit for free. Unless he actually wants something from the estate, he has no reason whatsoever to give a shit.
I think your just really really eager to see Chris get utterly fucked and stranded with the responsibility. I guarantee he doesn't want Chris signing off on something that says Cole himself is responsible for all of Barbs medical debt. I don't understand your Dickonian English meme so, instead I'll just say look up Virginia law. It's all there.
 
Are you autistic enough to think that Cole is autistic enough to let his extremely autistic brother handle all of the paper and possibly fuck it up because he's too autisitic to get a lawyer to do it for him?
First off to answer the "Are you autistic enough to [x]?"
This is Kiwifarms, specifically the CWC forum, the answer to that is always yes.

Cole has no interest or care in anything regarding Barb; the most work he'll do concerning it is saying "Good riddance" while doing a little jig.

As per legal ramifications it plays by the proximity rule; aka, relatives closest to the deceased bear the responsible, etc etc. The proximity usually peters out at Cousins who live 20 miles away and call every now and then. If no one in the proximity circle gives a potato, then the deceased is given a very cheap burial; back in the day this used to be a simple wood box, no viewing, no headstone. Nowadays its a quickie cremation+plastic tier urn.

Chris is going to be held responsible for his mother in her time of passing, this cannot be avoided; if he is unfit to do so, it will come down to Barb's siblings (brothers/sisters; if any) and then to close family members/local folks (Not sure if the church likes them or not anymore, I suppose that's a @Marvin question).

Here's my prediction on the events:
Barb dies in 2018~2019 due to breathing complications or environment complications.
Chris gets upset, makes a sad Facebook post.
Barb is sent to the morgue
Chris is asked about funeral things, finds out it costs ALOT of money.
Chris worries, and tries to figure it out.
Makes angry Facebook post to Cole DEMANDING to pay for their mother's funeral (which will be met with crickets)
Chris will get angry and sad, make more posts on Facebook.
Money begging begins again, "Help my poor deceased m-m-m-m-other into the grave."
Chris begs family and local friends to help with funeral.
Makes more Money begging videos and Facebook posts.
Time is up;
Possibility A: Chris has money
Possibility B: Chris couldn't get money.

A: Chris goes with the cheapest possible funeral possible, and pockets the money, while continuing to ask for money because he is grieving and trying to make it now that his poor old mee-maw is dead.
B: Chris goes with the cheapest possible funeral possible, and makes angry/sad Facebook posts, while continuing to ask for money because he is grieving and trying to make it now that his poor old mee-maw is dead.

Then he will sigh, poop his pants, and then proceed to do nothing as he hits a depressive slope that will probably last a few months, intermittingly showing signs of action/interest when events such as a horse convention, or an anime festival is in town.

Barb's final resting place (and I am willing to bet all my Dindus on this) is going to be in an urn, and kept in 14 Branchland Ct, and either the urn or the ashes will somehow find their way into the horde.
 
I think your just really really eager to see Chris get utterly fucked and stranded with the responsibility. I guarantee he doesn't want Chris signing off on something that says Cole himself is responsible for all of Barbs medical debt. I don't understand your Dickonian English meme so, instead I'll just say look up Virginia law. It's all there.
You completely underestimate Cole's abandonment of that woman.

I think it's :optimistic: to think he would even answer the phone.
 
I think your just really really eager to see Chris get utterly fucked and stranded with the responsibility. I guarantee he doesn't want Chris signing off on something that says Cole himself is responsible for all of Barbs medical debt. I don't understand your Dickonian English meme so, instead I'll just say look up Virginia law. It's all there.

Prove it. Cite that law. Cite the law that somehow will force a guy from New York State with no relationship to the decedent in literally decades to somehow become the executor of the estate.

I dare you.
 
On inheriting estate debt:

§ 6.2-611. Liability of surviving party for debts and other liabilities of decedent's estate.
A. If the assets of a deceased party's estate, other than the assets in a multiple-party account, are not sufficient to pay the debts, taxes, and expenses of estate administration, including statutory allowances to the surviving spouse, minor children, and dependent children, no transfer of account funds, to which the deceased party was beneficially entitled immediately before his death, shall be effective, by virtue of a party's survivorship of the decedent, against the estate of such deceased party to the extent such funds are needed to pay such liabilities of the estate.

On Chris and Cole being responsible for Barbs medical costs:

§ 20-88. Support of parents by children.

It shall be the joint and several duty of all persons eighteen years of age or over, of sufficient earning capacity or income, after reasonably providing for his or her own immediate family, to assist in providing for the support and maintenance of his or her mother or father, he or she being then and there in necessitous circumstances.

If there be more than one person bound to support the same parent or parents, the persons so bound to support shall jointly and severally share equitably in the discharge of such duty. Taking into consideration the needs of the parent or parents and the circumstances affecting the ability of each person to discharge the duty of support, the court having jurisdiction shall have the power to determine and order the payment, by such person or persons so bound to support, of that amount for support and maintenance which to the court may seem just. Where the court ascertains that any person has failed to render his or her proper share in such support and maintenance it may, upon the complaint of any party or on its own motion, compel contribution by that person to any person or authority which has theretofore contributed to the support or maintenance of the parent or parents. The court may from time to time revise the orders entered by it or by any other court having jurisdiction under the provisions of this section, in such manner as to it may seem just.

The juvenile and domestic relations district court shall have exclusive original jurisdiction in all cases arising under this section. Any person aggrieved shall have the same right of appeal as is provided by law in other cases.

All proceedings under this section shall conform as nearly as possible to the proceedings under the other provisions of this chapter, and the other provisions of this chapter shall apply to cases arising under this section in like manner as though they were incorporated in this section. Prosecutions under this section shall be in the jurisdiction where the parent or parents reside.

This section shall not apply if there is substantial evidence of desertion, neglect, abuse or willful failure to support any such child by the father or mother, as the case may be, prior to the child's emancipation or, except as provided hereafter in this section, if a parent is otherwise eligible for and is receiving public assistance or services under a federal or state program.

To the extent that the financial responsibility of children for any part of the costs incurred in providing medical assistance to their parents pursuant to the plan provided for in § 32.1-325 is not restricted by that plan and to the extent that the financial responsibility of children for any part of the costs incurred in providing to their parents services rendered, administered or funded by the Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Services is not restricted by federal law, the provisions of this section shall apply. A proceeding may be instituted in accordance with this section in the name of the Commonwealth by the state agency administering the program of assistance or services in order to compel any child of a parent receiving such assistance or services to reimburse the Commonwealth for such portion of the costs incurred in providing the assistance or services as the court may determine to be reasonable. If costs are incurred for the institutionalization of a parent, the children shall in no case be responsible for such costs for more than sixty months of institutionalization.

Any person violating the provisions of an order entered pursuant to this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and on conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $500 or imprisonment in jail for a period not exceeding twelve months or both.

1920, p. 413; 1922, p. 544; 1928, p. 745; 1942, p. 406; Michie Code 1942, § 1944a; 1952, c. 510; 1954, c. 481; 1962, c. 557; 1968, c. 665; 1970, c. 278; 1974, c. 657; 1975, c. 644; 1982, c. 472; 1984, c. 781; 2009, cc. 813, 840.


Also. I never said there was a law requiring Cole to become and executor.

Judging by my google pro skills, Virginia is Dickarnsa England.
 
A: Chris goes with the cheapest possible funeral possible, and pockets the money, while continuing to ask for money because he is grieving and trying to make it now that his poor old mee-maw is dead.
B: Chris goes with the cheapest possible funeral possible, and makes angry/sad Facebook posts, while continuing to ask for money because he is grieving and trying to make it now that his poor old mee-maw is dead.

Does he actually refer to her as that southern "word" for "grandmother"???
 
On inheriting estate debt:

Also. I never said there was a law requiring Cole to become and executor.

Judging by my google pro skills, Virginia is Dickarnsa England.

This only works for children over the age of 18, who live in the same state.

Once there are state lines involved, whatever one state states is negligible. At best a notice is set out, however there is no fiduciary responsibility whatsoever on Cole's end.

Now if he lived in Richmond...
 
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