What Happens When the Madness Ends? - Today’s corporate revolutionary enthusiasts had better prepare for the inevitable turn.

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Victor Davis Hansen has one of the best takes on our current civil crisis. His writings are all that give me hope right now. He's talking about what could be the future if shit keeps getting stupid.

He's a Stanford professor who believes in straight talk. Not sure how he's not been cancelled yet, if more people listened to him I think he'd be out the door.


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What Happens When the Madness Ends?

When something cannot go on, it certainly will not go on. But what are the symptoms of what cannot go on and when?

There are two historic red lines and our revolution is getting close to both.

When Normal People Grow Weary

One is when “average” people, both white and nonwhite, who identify neither with Left nor Right, woke nor unwoke, become frightened or appalled by the violence and the anarchy—and thus finally move to dismantle the guillotine as the razor increasingly starts haircutting friends, idols, and compatriots.

Their verdict can be known either by demonstrating themselves, boycotting, voting, or massive civil disobedience. At some point, tonight’s hero on YouTube torching Wendy’s or kicking a downed policeman on CNN, becomes tomorrow’s commonplace, unnoticed felon—with a new warrant issued out on his head, and about whose fate and lengthy CV no one other than his parents much cares.

Governors and mayors can demand masks and all sorts of social distancing measures. But once they declared that only those not demonstrating—the non-looting and nonviolent—were subject to their rules, while millions both peacefully protesting and violently looting were exempt, then their words meant nothing. It will be impossible for them ever to be seen as credible again. Virus or no virus, crowded freeways, and busy malls will soon be referenda on the bond of governors like Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer.

In a few weeks, we are promised that multimillionaire NFL players and coaches in unison will not deign to stand up for the National Anthem. Promises, promises.

TV play-by-play announcers will praise them—or else likely lose their jobs. But millions of Americans simply will decouple from the NFL. Their silent disappearance will make the prior Kaepernick drop-off in attendance and viewership seem like child’s play. The same will be true perhaps of the more canny NBA, if they foolishly emulate the NFL. Millions will surmise that billionaire basketball players can far better make their billions in China and should—an NBA deity whose dictatorship players and coaches fear and worship while criticizing their own democracy.

Recently, there was murder in the CHAZ/CHOP-shop summer of love, and more random violence. Soon average Seattle citizens will want their city’s core back if only to reclaim their full 911 response. When the police begin not showing up for assaults, thefts, and break-ins, and criminals do what criminals do without consequences, the proverbial victims and vulnerable will have had enough and either move away or organize.

Today’s opportunist virtue-signaler will be tomorrow’s gullible fool. Tonight’s brave looter and edgy arsonist will be tomorrow’s matter-of-fact felon.

Governor Cuomo and Mayor de Blasio vie for televised braggadocio. But when the cameras leave, and they will soon, both will be left with billions of dollars in damage, lost commerce, bankrupt budgets, and urban flight. And their whiny appeals to American deplorables for financial assistance, their attempts at shaming clingers for a bailout, will likely be the stuff of comedy. What will California’s multimillionaire Governor Gavin Newsom do when his silly press conferences end, but his 13.3 percent income tax rate and 47-cent gas tax still don’t come close to closing his $50 billion annual deficit? Give more adolescent lectures about how the virus and lockdown are “reimagining a progressive era as it pertains to capitalism”?

When Important People Find Themselves Out of Luck

Second, when important people start to suffer the concrete consequences of their own abstract ideology, then the revolution sputters—in the manner that #MeToo Tara Reid got nowhere in accusing Joe Biden of a brutal sexual assault. Suddenly, handsy and heavily breathing Joe who once swore “women must be believed” appealed to statutes of limitations, presumptions of innocence, and the right to cross-examination as if he were Robespierre suddenly deploring the promiscuous use of the guillotine.

When hysteria fades, so too the current Antifa/BLM movement will go dormant to go enjoy the millions that they garnered from terrified virtue-signaling corporatists. When pistol-packing, AR-15 toting Raz Simone declares himself exempt from his own past homophobia and repulsive N-word vocabulary, and struts armed to the teeth at the head of his posse while blocking the police from aiding those shot and dying, then there is no society left. And those who want society back at some point will act, whether silently or visibly. Either Raz will be arrested—or bought off by a social justice Seattle billionaire and retired to a gifted lakeside home. Either way, he will go soon.

For all the conservatives who virtue signaled that Confederate statues had to come down now, the logical trajectory of their acquiesce was the toppling of Ulysses S. Grant, Columbus, and Father Junipero Serra, and the defacements of Lincoln, Jefferson, and Washington. And it won’t do to deplore the mob’s insanity when it turns on abolitionists, Cervantes, and black Civil War veterans. After all, from the time of the dismemberment of Cinna the Roman poet, that’s precisely what mobs do when appeased: turn on the innocent without apology.

Declaring that Confederate statutes must fall, but only through pro forma deliberation is fine and good. But prejudging that such democratic deliberations will reach the proper end results, sends the signal to the mob of “Well, why wait for a slowcoach vote that will only confirm our violence?” If a sober and judicious observer declares that all Confederate generals are the same and all their stone and bronze images are illegitimately on public display, and all their removals must result from and be confirmed by majority votes, then why have majority votes unless one believes in the legitimacy of the old Soviet Duma or Saddam’s Iraqi parliament?

Both liberals and conservatives have red lines, for without them there is no civilization in which liberals and conservatives can disagree without tribal and ritual violence. When would-be looters and defacers turned toward liberal Beverly Hills, they were met by politically incorrect tear gas. And behold, not a single former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or retired military grandee was to be found to tweet out that America ended on that very day when those in the uniform tear-gassed civilians.

Nocturnally decapitating Robert E. Lee’s head in an obscure city park is one thing, marching in daylight on Stone Mountain with dynamite to erase the locus classicus of Confederate commemoration is quite another. Were that to happen, even Fort Bragg, California is not safe and the Wilson School at Princeton would be next in line for the guillotine.

Academics are now bombarded in their campus emails with lists of BLM demands and administrative acquiescence to them. But when the smoke clears and the flames subside, Hadley, Connor, and Palmer will have to give up their legacy spots at Stanford and Yale to meet demands for mandated increases in the size of the African-American student body. Will the edgy radical professor in his elbow patched tweed still virtue-signal from the lounge, when his kid’s 800 English SAT and straight-A prep school grades no longer are considered required admission data, and his salary in no way will match the donor heft of rival Silicon Valley tech parents?

When the frenzy subsides, what will universities themselves say after charging jacked up tuition and room and board costs for indebted students to take their classes on zoom from their parents’ basements? Will they cite “overhead” or praise the new “digital learning,” or institute “givebacks” of student payments, or claim new diversity coordinators and administrators to combat white privilege necessitate budgetary constraints?

What about the Chick-fil-A CEO—worried about corporate losses from vandalized stores and past bad PR from gay boycotts—who urged that whites wash the feet of black people? What will he do when it is again against the law to loot and deface, and when few of any racial lineage would enjoy such groveling hands on their feet?

The Thermador Reaction Is Coming

If a revolution is based on the untruth that blacks are daily violently terrorized by whites, what happens when data reveal facts contrary to that narrative? What happens when people come to understand that in those relatively rare interracial crimes, blacks are far more likely than whites to commit interracial violence? Or when people discover that more than 7,000 blacks are murdered per year by other blacks? When the hysteria fades, such data reasserts the truth that there is not currently a white racial war against blacks.

Now is the hour of the virtue tweeting has-been celebrity, who wishes to avoid the fate of Jimmies Fallon and Kimmel. Did the latter two, now on forced sabbaticals, think they are any more important to American entertainment than the beheaded Danton and Hébert were to the revolution of Robespierre and Saint-Just? In a cultural revolution, radicalism is a fluid and relative state, and no exemption from the violence that one advocates for others.

Just as reformers wanted King Louis XVI to give up some power but not to lose his head, so too peaceful protestors sought to institutionalize accountability for rogue cops. But also, just as a constitutional parliament was forgotten by the time of the Reign of Terror, so too the legitimate protests over George Floyd’s horrific death are now light-years distant from torching Santa Monica and defacing the World War II monument.

Instead, this is the unhinged age of the sexagenarian general mysteriously awakening from his politically incorrect slumber to publicly announce that he threw his suddenly despised framed picture of Robert E. Lee against his wall—as a good business hedge, or to rediscover mysteriously in his seventh decade that his lifelong association with Fort Bragg could be a liability in the suddenly petrified world of corporate clientage.

The Reign of Terror will end and the Thermidor reaction is on the horizon. Today’s opportunist virtue-signaler will be tomorrow’s gullible fool. Tonight’s brave looter and edgy arsonist will be tomorrow’s matter-of-fact felon. This morning’s memo-writing social justice executive and administrator will be seen as tomorrow’s rank abettor of McCarthyite persecutions. And the coveted and esteemed racial arsonist of the moment soon will become the ostracized segregationist.

Americans believe there is one thing more regrettable than a falsifier—and that is an opportunistic and careerist falsifier.
 
Man use big words. Grug think man use too big words and follow dark-skinned tribe instead.



If you're going full innawoods, get a good pack, good wool socks, a pair of better boots than you can afford, and make sure you have a portable water filter. After that, look into getting even a shitty Baofeng radio. You're going to want to be listening a lot more than transmitting, unless you're trapped under a rock and need emergency services.
I mean if you're going to just go to the woods it really negates the reasoning behind the suggestion.
Radio waves are used in almost everything we use, We have affordable and powerful sdr rx/tx half duplex ones, and full duplex ones.
And the other stuff I suggested what private enterprise as well as government are definitely going to be doing real-time data analysis with machine learning and deep learning (both are AI, machine learning is algorithmic and deep learning is "neural networked" based).
That detail isn't super important, what is important is that they will have the capability of being the Stasi on steroids * 1000. The only frontier to combat government overreach and abuse of power is to utilize technology against them. We have to watch the watchers. or at least fully know we are tracked whether you go galt or not. But if thats not your schtik, I love just shitting on people too, so that can be the goal as well.
 
When all this stupid shit ends, I hope the resulting backlash hurts. These people need a taste of their own medicine and it needs to make them gag!
 
Modern westerners as a whole seem terrified of adversity, since we are a largely spoiled and coddled bunch. I've been to actual shithole countries (it doesn't get much worse for abject poverty than Nepal, and I've spent a lot of time there), where you either overcome adversity or die. There is no safety net, nobody to help, you have to do it yourself. That generally hasn't been the case in the western world for decades, so as a result many people are "soft" and would quickly crumble if shit truly did hit the fan.
It might be one of the most tired points but we are very much in a 1984 style social stratification. The elites are basically beyond the rules and even #MeToo didn't phase them (if they didn't cause it in the first place). The proletariat are either too much into their own brain dead narcissism, own petty struggles or are in hand with the ruling ideology and will gladly serve as its soldiers. And the people in the middle are very much coerced to publicly follow the ideology or be cancelled, without any real meaningful way of changing the broken system.
And those that do try are being put down mercilessly without regards to their sex, age or personal history.
The fact that the bureaucratic nightmare that was the ministry of truth is now literally few clicks of a button to change cultural and historical reality (what you still use hard copies?) is just icing on the cake.
 
When all this stupid shit ends, I hope the resulting backlash hurts. These people need a taste of their own medicine and it needs to make them gag!
I think they should just be ejected from the united states on the spot. I don't care where they get put. They could do a dropzone in the middle of the ocean and I'd be cool with it. The only resource that should be wasted on these people is kicking them out of this country
 
Sorry, can't take him seriously when he calls current events a 'revolution,' without any apparent irony. Enough with the CNN, Hollywood bullshit where any modest wave of protest is declared a 'revolution,' but only so long as those protesting are viewed with sympathy by the CNN and Hollywood types.
 
even Fort Bragg, California is not safe

I promise you if rioters show up to Fort Bragg to start torching buildings and ripping down monuments it'll be pretty fucking safe. The stupid ninnies who call Humvees tanks and rubber bullets "lethal rounds" and being roughed up by cops "executions" will suddenly find out for real what an actual tank actual lethal rounds and real executions really actually are.

WRT computers, you should have a machine then you should have a bootable USB you use for actual communication.

No; don't do that. Build a machine with no storage at all, and use a bootable DVD live image such as Knoppix. Don't do anything on the web that you have to permanently save data for. It'll be dog slow, but you'll be un-traceable.
 
Americans might finally do something over their ethnic cleansing. It's no longer internet hermits that realize what the Globalist agenda is. I'm being polite here.
 
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Americans might finally do something over their ethnic cleansing. It's no longer internet hermits that realize what the Globalist agenda is. I being polite here.
Yes. You may have heard that California revoked their Civil Rights act in order to have "black only spaces" from which people of other ethnic groups are excluded. That is some unamerican rank fucking bullshit right there and it must not be tolerated.
 
People like Tucker Carlson, and the grown up Zoomers who rebel against their millennial leftist parents.
I saw a video of him from 2006, looked like a goofball preppy kid with the bowtie and mug country club look. Last 2 years has been a redemption arc for him. Probably the only thing keeping Fox News relevant for the next young generation of viewers.
 
People like to compare this to 1968. No. This is 2020, this a whole new beast of animal. Whatever happens down the line people are going to look back to 2020. This is the first 2020.

The great difference is also that back in the '68, people rebelled against objectively stupid shit. Western society as a whole had become fed up with the conservative moralism that was objectively a relic of the past and which held the society in a death-grip. Thus we had the hippies and the sexual revolution, which ultimately was a very good thing, as it birthed many of the good things we nowadays take for granted like sexual liberalism and in general liberal view of life. Back then it was objectively good thing to rebel, as it really pushed our cultural evolution forward and made the world ultimately better place.
 
People like Tucker Carlson, and the grown up Zoomers who rebel against their millennial leftist parents.

Rebel with what? Without any actual movement, the "Zoomers" have grown up in a cultural Potemkin village without realizing what's been plaguing the culture. They won't be rebelling against their culture being rotted out-- they'll be rebelling against the architectural style of the buildings looking garish. If the goal is to rebel against their "millennial leftist parents", then they're only being reactionary. Suppose the pushback is strong-- what are they pushing back to? Their personal sense of security, where the family structure is still wrecked? Where they themselves have malformed ideas about sexuality on account of being exposed to hardcore pornography before they started middle school (and questionable content at minimum in-between reruns of Spongebob), and will do nothing for the generation ahead of them to prevent that? Where they'll still freely permit abortion as long as the fetus doesn't have a face? Where they'll still aspire to having sex as a rite of passage, using other people as sapient fleshlights and dildos? Where our unifying culture is still eroded in the wake of idpol? Where there's no sense of connection to this country as someone who shares its history, for better or worse? Where unskilled labor evaporates because the "omnibenevolent" forces of capitalism are shipping them to countries where slavery is still allowed?

You may recall me saying on at least one occasion that Generation Z will go to church because of social obligation, and then rip off their suits and dresses after benediction to reveal their inflatable fursuits as they hop in their cars and peel out to the nearest furry convention. It's mostly a joke, but really-- people are talking about how the upcoming generation is going to be "conservative", but I doubt that they have an idea of what that means in practicality. The corruption of our society is deep and the fog that hides our fundamental issues is thick, and not even the so-called conservatives helming the GOP care (rather than being conservatives, they're "nostalgists" that really miss the time Hitler only occupied Poland instead of Belgium, France, Austria, and so on), so what makes you think that, for example, the most known self-identifying conservative youth orgs (e.g. TPUSA, YAF) that can only operate in gotchas and "libtard rekt", are actually equipping the youth with anything of value, like strong virtues or the mental fortitude to stick to those virtues?

I'm not saying that the push back won't happen, but is it going to be the result of the mass inspiration of people who realize that they'll have to toil to build a good thing so easily destroyed by their predecessors? Will it bring forth principled people, willing to reshackle themselves to wise norms and customs for the sake of stability and stable progress, for their countrymen and their progeny?
 
I promise you if rioters show up to Fort Bragg to start torching buildings and ripping down monuments it'll be pretty fucking safe. The stupid ninnies who call Humvees tanks and rubber bullets "lethal rounds" and being roughed up by cops "executions" will suddenly find out for real what an actual tank actual lethal rounds and real executions really actually are.
I was thinking the same thing in Washington with Fort Lewis. I'd love them to come see how effectively they'd get handled by an infantry company. They show up at night, whole base cuts electricity so its lights out and you'll just see through your nods a bunch of IR beams light these niggers up and they'd have no clue whats happening as they get magdumped on.
 
Yes. You may have heard that California revoked their Civil Rights act in order to have "black only spaces" from which people of other ethnic groups are excluded. That is some unamerican rank fucking bullshit right there and it must not be tolerated.

Can I get more info on this?
 
Yes. You may have heard that California revoked their Civil Rights act in order to have "black only spaces" from which people of other ethnic groups are excluded. That is some unamerican rank fucking bullshit right there and it must not be tolerated.
Can I get more info on this?
He talking about proposition 209. Its on the ballot and we will see in November how this state votes.
 
Rebel with what? Without any actual movement, the "Zoomers" have grown up in a cultural Potemkin village without realizing what's been plaguing the culture. They won't be rebelling against their culture being rotted out-- they'll be rebelling against the architectural style of the buildings looking garish. If the goal is to rebel against their "millennial leftist parents", then they're only being reactionary. Suppose the pushback is strong-- what are they pushing back to? Their personal sense of security, where the family structure is still wrecked? Where they themselves have malformed ideas about sexuality on account of being exposed to hardcore pornography before they started middle school (and questionable content at minimum in-between reruns of Spongebob), and will do nothing for the generation ahead of them to prevent that? Where they'll still freely permit abortion as long as the fetus doesn't have a face? Where they'll still aspire to having sex as a rite of passage, using other people as sapient fleshlights and dildos? Where our unifying culture is still eroded in the wake of idpol? Where there's no sense of connection to this country as someone who shares its history, for better or worse? Where unskilled labor evaporates because the "omnibenevolent" forces of capitalism are shipping them to countries where slavery is still allowed?

You may recall me saying on at least one occasion that Generation Z will go to church because of social obligation, and then rip off their suits and dresses after benediction to reveal their inflatable fursuits as they hop in their cars and peel out to the nearest furry convention. It's mostly a joke, but really-- people are talking about how the upcoming generation is going to be "conservative", but I doubt that they have an idea of what that means in practicality. The corruption of our society is deep and the fog that hides our fundamental issues is thick, and not even the so-called conservatives helming the GOP care (rather than being conservatives, they're "nostalgists" that really miss the time Hitler only occupied Poland instead of Belgium, France, Austria, and so on), so what makes you think that, for example, the most known self-identifying conservative youth orgs (e.g. TPUSA, YAF) that can only operate in gotchas and "libtard rekt", are actually equipping the youth with anything of value, like strong virtues or the mental fortitude to stick to those virtues?

I'm not saying that the push back won't happen, but is it going to be the result of the mass inspiration of people who realize that they'll have to toil to build a good thing so easily destroyed by their predecessors? Will it bring forth principled people, willing to reshackle themselves to wise norms and customs for the sake of stability and stable progress, for their countrymen and their progeny?
When pushback happens, it comes from multiple groups, so often with multiple reasons for each group. So it will come in part from the principled, in part by the degenerate, in part by the internet "nice person", in part by the internet asshole, in part by those who just want to be left alone by autistic wannabe societal babysitters, and a host of other groups. What matters is that society as a whole benefits from the backlash. The leaders of the backlash will, on average, be the principled ones.

As an aside, people who base their entire ideology on "triggering and owning the libs/cons" are almost invariably spastic attention whores only capable of an unutterably superficial analysis of anything and such dullards will be weeded out sooner or later.

The great difference is also that back in the '68, people rebelled against objectively stupid shit. Western society as a whole had become fed up with the conservative moralism that was objectively a relic of the past and which held the society in a death-grip. Thus we had the hippies and the sexual revolution, which ultimately was a very good thing, as it birthed many of the good things we nowadays take for granted like sexual liberalism and in general liberal view of life. Back then it was objectively good thing to rebel, as it really pushed our cultural evolution forward and made the world ultimately better place.
Grow the fuck up and stop spewing this leadbrained Whig history bullshit. It stopped being "cool" to be a hippy by the mid 70s.
 
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