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We're in a permanent coup
Americans might soon wish they just waited to vote their way out of the Trump era
Oct 11 at 8:01 pm

I’ve lived through a few coups. They’re insane, random, and terrifying, like watching sports, except your political future depends on the score.
The kickoff begins when a key official decides to buck the executive. From that moment, government becomes a high-speed head-counting exercise. Who’s got the power plant, the airport, the police in the capital? How many department chiefs are answering their phones? Who’s writing tonight’s newscast?
When the KGB in 1991 tried to reassume control of the crumbling Soviet Union by placing Mikhail Gorbachev under arrest and attempting to seize Moscow, logistics ruled. Boris Yeltsin’s crew drove to the Russian White House in ordinary cars, beating KGB coup plotters who were trying to reach the seat of Russian government in armored vehicles. A key moment came when one of Yeltsin’s men, Alexander Rutskoi – who two years later would himself lead a coup against Yeltsin – prevailed upon a Major in a tank unit to defy KGB orders and turn on the “criminals.”
We have long been spared this madness in America. Our head-counting ceremony was Election Day. We did it once every four years.
That’s all over, in the Trump era.
On Thursday, news broke that two businessmen said to have “peddled supposedly explosive information about corruption involving Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden” were arrested at Dulles airport on “campaign finance violations.” The two figures are alleged to be bagmen bearing “dirt” on Democrats, solicited by Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.
Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will be asked to give depositions to impeachment investigators. They’re reportedly going to refuse. Their lawyer John Dowd also says they will “refuse to appear before House Committees investigating President Donald Trump.” Fruman and Parnas meanwhile claim they had real derogatory information about Biden and other politicians, but “the U.S. government had shown little interest in receiving it through official channels.”
For Americans not familiar with the language of the Third World, that’s two contrasting denials of political legitimacy.
The men who are the proxies for Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani in this story are asserting that “official channels” have been corrupted. The forces backing impeachment, meanwhile, are telling us those same defendants are obstructing a lawful impeachment inquiry.
This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.
My discomfort in the last few years, first with Russiagate and now with Ukrainegate and impeachment, stems from the belief that the people pushing hardest for Trump’s early removal are more dangerous than Trump. Many Americans don’t see this because they’re not used to waking up in a country where you’re not sure who the president will be by nightfall. They don’t understand that this predicament is worse than having a bad president.

The Trump presidency is the first to reveal a full-blown schism between the intelligence community and the White House. Senior figures in the CIA, NSA, FBI and other agencies made an open break from their would-be boss before Trump’s inauguration, commencing a public war of leaks that has not stopped.
The first big shot was fired in early January, 2017, via a CNN.com headline, “Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him.” This tale, about the January 7th presentation of former British spy Christopher Steele’s report to then-President-elect Trump, began as follows:
Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.
Four intelligence chiefs in the FBI’s James Comey, the CIA’s John Brennan, the NSA’s Mike Rogers, and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, presented an incoming president with a politically disastrous piece of information, in this case a piece of a private opposition research report.
Among other things because the news dropped at the same time Buzzfeed decided to publish the entire “bombshell” Steele dossier, reporters spent that week obsessing not about the mode of the story’s release, but about the “claims.” In particular, audiences were rapt by allegations that Russians were trying to blackmail Trump with evidence of a golden shower party commissioned on a bed once slept upon by Barack Obama himself.
Twitter exploded. No other news story mattered. For the next two years, the “claims” of compromise and a “continuing” Trump-Russian “exchange” hung over the White House like a sword of Damocles.
Few were interested in the motives for making this story public. As it turned out, there were two explanations, one that was made public, and one that only came out later. The public justification as outlined in the CNN piece, was to “make the President-elect aware that such allegations involving him [were] circulating among intelligence agencies.”
However, we know from Comey’s January 7, 2017 memo to deputy Andrew McCabe and FBI General Counsel James Baker there was another explanation. Comey wrote:
I said I wasn’t saying this was true, only that I wanted [Trump] to know both that it had been reported and that the reports were in many hands. I said media like CNN had them and were looking for a news hook. I said it was important that we not give them the excuse to write that the FBI has the material or [redacted] and that we were keeping it very close-hold.
Imagine if a similar situation had taken place in January of 2009, involving president-elect Barack Obama. Picture a meeting between Obama and the heads of the CIA, NSA, and FBI, along with the DIA, in which the newly-elected president is presented with a report complied by, say, Judicial Watch, accusing him of links to al-Qaeda. Imagine further that they tell Obama they are presenting him with this information to make him aware of a blackmail threat, and to reassure him they won’t give news agencies a “hook” to publish the news.
Now imagine if that news came out on Fox days later. Imagine further that within a year, one of the four officials became a paid Fox contributor. Democrats would lose their minds in this set of circumstances.
The country mostly did not lose its mind, however, because the episode did not involve a traditionally presidential figure like Obama, nor was it understood to have been directed at the institution of “the White House” in the abstract.
Instead, it was a story about an infamously corrupt individual, Donald Trump, a pussy-grabbing scammer who bragged about using bankruptcy to escape debt and publicly praised Vladimir Putin. Audiences believed the allegations against this person and saw the intelligence/counterintelligence community as acting patriotically, doing their best to keep us informed about a still-breaking investigation of a rogue president.
But a parallel story was ignored. Leaks from the intelligence community most often pertain to foreign policy. The leak of the January, 2017 “meeting” between the four chiefs and Trump – which without question damaged both the presidency and America’s standing abroad – was an unprecedented act of insubordination.
It was also a bold new foray into domestic politics by intelligence agencies that in recent decades began asserting all sorts of frightening new authority. They were kidnapping foreigners, assassinating by drone, conducting paramilitary operations without congressional notice, building an international archipelago of secret prisons, and engaging in mass warrantless surveillance of Americans. We found out in a court case just last week how extensive the illegal domestic surveillance has been, with the FBI engaging in tens of thousands of warrantless searches involving American emails and phone numbers under the guise of combating foreign subversion.
The agencies’ new trick is inserting themselves into domestic politics using leaks and media pressure. The “intel chiefs” meeting was just the first in a series of similar stories, many following the pattern in which a document was created, passed from department from department, and leaked. A sample:
  • February 14, 2017: “four current and former officials” tell the New York Timesthe Trump campaign had “repeated contacts” with Russian intelligence.
  • March 1, 2017: “Justice Department officials” tell the Washington Post Attorney General Jeff Sessions “spoke twice with Russia’s ambassador” and did not disclose the contacts ahead of his confirmation hearing.
  • March 18, 2017: “people familiar with the matter” tell the Wall Street Journalthat former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn failed to disclose a “contact” with a Russian at Cambridge University, an episode that “came to the notice of U.S. intelligence.”
  • April 8, 2017, 2017: “law enforcement and other U.S. officials” tell the Washington Post the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge had ruled there was “probable cause” to believe former Trump aide Carter Page was an “agent of a foreign power.”
  • April 13, 2017: a “source close to UK intelligence” tells Luke Harding at The Guardian that the British analog to the NSA, the GCHQ, passed knowledge of “suspicious interactions” between “figures connected to Trump and “known or suspected Russian agents” to Americans as part of a “routine exchange of information.”
  • December 17, 2017: “four current and former American and foreign officials” tell the New York Times that during the 2016 campaign, an Australian diplomat named Alexander Downer told “American counterparts” that former Trump aide George Papadopoulos revealed “Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.
  • April 13, 2018: “two sources familiar with the matter” tell McClatchy that Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office has evidence Trump lawyer Michael Cohen was in Prague in 2016, “confirming part of [Steele] dossier.”
  • November 27, 2018: a “well-placed source” tells Harding at The Guardian that former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort met with Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
  • January 19, 2019: “former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation” tell the New York Times the FBI opened an inquiry into the “explosive implications” of whether or not Donald Trump was working on behalf of the Russians.
To be sure, “people familiar with the matter” leaked a lot of true stories in the last few years, but many were clearly problematic even at the time of release. Moreover, all took place in the context of constant, hounding pressure from media figures, congressional allies like Democrats Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell, as well as ex-officials who could make use of their own personal public platforms in addition to being unnamed sources in straight news reports. They used commercial news platforms to argue that Trump had committed treason, needed to be removed from office, and preferably also indicted as soon as possible.
A shocking number of these voices were former intelligence officers who joined Clapper in becoming paid news contributors. Op-ed pages and news networks are packed now with ex-spooks editorializing about stories in which they had personal involvement: Michael Morell, Michael Hayden, Asha Rangappa, and Andrew McCabeamong many others, including especially all four of the original “intel chiefs”: Clapper, Rogers, Comey, and MSNBC headliner John Brennan.
Russiagate birthed a whole brand of politics, a government-in-exile, which prosecuted its case against Trump via a constant stream of “approved” leaks, partisans in congress, and an increasingly unified and thematically consistent set of commercial news outlets.
These mechanisms have been transplanted now onto the Ukrainegate drama. It’s the same people beating the public drums, with the messaging run out of the same congressional committees, through the same Nadlers, Schiffs, and Swalwells. The same news outlets are on full alert.
The sidelined “intel chiefs” are once again playing central roles in making the public case. Comey says “we may now be at a point” where impeachment is necessary. Brennan, with unintentional irony, says the United States is “no longer a democracy.” Clapper says the Ukraine whistleblower complaint is “one of the most credible” he’s seen.
As a reporter covering the 2015–2016 presidential race, I thought Trump’s campaign was disturbing on many levels, but logical as a news story. He succeeded for class reasons, because of flaws in the media business that gifted him mass amounts of coverage, and because he took cunning advantage of long-simmering frustrations in the electorate. He also clearly catered to racist fears, and to the collapse in trust in institutions like the news media, the Fed, corporations, NATO, and, yes, the intelligence services. In enormous numbers, voters rejected everything they had ever been told about who was and was not qualified for higher office.
Trump’s campaign antagonism toward the military and intelligence world was at best a millimeter thick. Like almost everything else he said as a candidate, it was a gimmick, designed to get votes. That he was insincere and full of it and irresponsible, at first at least, when he attacked the “deep state” and the “fake news media,” doesn’t change the reality of what’s happened since. Even paranoiacs have enemies, and even Donald “Deep State” Trump is a legitimately elected president whose ouster is being actively sought by the intelligence community.
Trump stands accused of using the office of the presidency to advance political aims, in particular pressuring Ukraine to investigate potential campaign rival Joe Biden. He’s guilty, but the issue is how guilty, in comparison to his accusers.
Trump, at least insofar as we know, has not used section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to monitor political rivals. He hasn’t deployed human counterintelligence “informants” to follow the likes of Hunter Biden. He hasn’t maneuvered to secure Special Counsel probes of Democrats.
And while Donald Trump conducting foreign policy based on what he sees on Fox and Friends is troubling, it’s not in the same ballpark as CNN, MSNBC, the Washington Post and the New York Times engaging in de facto coverage partnerships with the FBI and CIA to push highly politicized, phony narratives like Russiagate.
Trump’s tinpot Twitter threats and cancellation of White House privileges for dolts like Jim Acosta also don’t begin to compare to the danger posed by Facebook, Google, and Twitter – under pressure from the Senate – organizing with groups like the Atlantic Council to fight “fake news” in the name of preventing the “foment of discord.”
I don’t believe most Americans have thought through what a successful campaign to oust Donald Trump would look like. Most casual news consumers can only think of it in terms of Mike Pence becoming president. The real problem would be the precedent of a de facto intelligence community veto over elections, using the lunatic spookworld brand of politics that has dominated the last three years of anti-Trump agitation.
CIA/FBI-backed impeachment could also be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Donald Trump thinks he’s going to be jailed upon leaving office, he’ll sooner or later figure out that his only real move is to start acting like the “dictator” MSNBC and CNN keep insisting he is. Why give up the White House and wait to be arrested, when he still has theoretical authority to send Special Forces troops rappelling through the windows of every last Russiagate/Ukrainegate leaker? That would be the endgame in a third world country, and it’s where we’re headed, unless someone calls off this craziness. Welcome to the Permanent Power Struggle.
 
Oversimplifying things: Taibbi doesn't like Trump but he finds the TDS sufferers on the left to be the greater threat, to the point that he's currently writing a book that is entirely about exposing Russiagate as the attempted coup it is as far as being the ONLY ONE with the balls to go balls deep in exposing the plot by the Democrats to frame Trump for treason and how it began.

And Taibbi's been all but outright excommunicated from the left wing media for openly calling the various schemes by the left as coups, especially after he announced his most recent book about TDS and the media (Hate Inc), which names names and basically denounces Rachel Maddow as the new Bill O'Reilly.
I always took her as the new Glen Beck more than anything. Both of them are the same level of Doomsday crackpot while Bill was just a self-assured smug bastard
 
Man, I feel this on a spiritual level.

TBH, a violent and immediate sea change in our government would be painful, but it would likely do less harm than good. The problem is everyone is a fucking coward.

Trump IS a drastic change, that's why the elite are fighting him so hard, they don't hate him half as much as what he represents - a self-made billionarie populist that can't be bought because he doesn't NEED your cash, and therefore can't be "persuaded" to not pursue policy the wealthy and elite do not want (immigration reform, slashing taxes, refusing to leverage military force to open new markets by toppling 3rd-rate powers).

And, so panicked are they, instead of fighting him with reasonable political counter-force, or just waiting him out, they've leveraged it all to destroy him immediately with manufactured Super Scandals (tm). And in their rush to get him, they've desperately started believing their own power of media persuasion and pop-culture influencing (though significant)is a lot more powerful and subliminal than it really is, to the point they believe they can do more than influence soda choices, they think they can make rivers flow backwards And when we, the sheep of the Republic, have failed to buy what they say, they can only think we're clearly too dumb to get their "nuanced" approach, so they double-down and shriek louder. They totally detached from the truth and began to spread complete lies, complete fabrications, justifying the death of truth as a necessary casualty of the culture war, since it's okay to lie and tell the Nazis there aren't any Jews hiding in your basement, then it's okay to lie and say Trump is a Russian puppet and forge documents to prove it if no genuine ones can be found, it's for the GREATER GOOD< we need to WIN THIS WAR.

And on and on it goes in a downward spiral of desperation to SQUASH symptom number one of public discontent with the rotten progressive globalist movement, Trump, while ignoring it's root causes of actual discontent of the masses. Because they can't even begin to process the ramifications of that.

That the rubes they thought would never rise up, just did, and can no longer be made to turn a blind eye to their stagnating wages and corrupted societal systems by simply offering them the next-gen Apple iPhone early or making Hollywoke movies. Hence why they've been ineffective and the populace still won't turn on it's media-designated "enemy" and continues to have differing opinions even as the Zuck class begin to clear cut their own social media platforms for being too out-of-line through tech censorship.

Look how they are practically crying because nobody shot up a theater showing Joker whose message they don't approve of (average guys pushed too far by an uncaring system can become monsters with the power to tear it to pieces) because it defies the narrative they've spent billions to promote as the alternative (You're just born evil if you aren't into open borders and diversity is our strength! Watch this all-lesbian reboot of a classic franchise or we'll nuke your social media profile off the internet).

Ego, we are in clown world where Troons who hate Drumpf and Spongebob being a racist are the promoted "new" norm......and why it's failing. This, all of this? It's the throes of a wounded globalist cabal trying to save itself, but having no idea HOW except to scream incoherently into the void like a bleeding dinosaur that can't stop these inconsequential mammals only 1/1,000th it's size from pricking it to death with spears... it's not going to die overnight, but it is dying, and now is counting on you getting tired of the pained screams to stop the massacre.

I'm tired of the noise, but I'm not tired of winning.
 
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If this wasn't also attacking the Democrats, I would say that this is yet another piece of leftist thriller fiction.
 
Darkest timeline scenario: they find a way to impeach/force Pence before Trump to install Nancy Pelosi as VP before getting rid of Trump
Doesn't work like that. If Pence goes and Trump is still in power, he has the right to appoint whoever he wants the new VP. The only way Pelosi gets the seat is if Pence and Trump are both taken out.
 
Doesn't work like that. If Pence goes and Trump is still in power, he has the right to appoint whoever he wants the new VP. The only way Pelosi gets the seat is if Pence and Trump are both taken out.
BUT that process takes time ((and the house is involved in that process))

So they can delay it till they impeach trump
 
when he still has theoretical authority to send Special Forces troops rappelling through the windows of every last Russiagate/Ukrainegate leaker?

What I would give to see SOF going door to door arresting 3/4 of the Intel/Media/NeoUniparty/GloboHomoElite circus on charges of treason. If Trump had the balls, he could literally out-Caesar Caesar. He would become Immortal in history in the way that basically no one outside of Caesar has.
 
I’m going to be really honest with you guys right now: I’m ready for the Trump presidency to be over with.

I’m tired of our president being a walking, talking physical embodiment of a shitpost.

I’m tired of the Republican Party tongue washing the shit from his turd cutter every chance they get.

I’m tired of the exceptional behavior coming from the Democratic Party, both from the leadership and the screaming ninny fags at the far end of the party who want to tax cow farts and give billions to dindus for reparations.

I’m tired of the media outlets either outright lying and covering for Trump, or actively reporting on things in a manner to stoke outrage and fear where it’s not applicable, on both sides of the political aisle.

I’m tired of the state of politics in this country and how far down into the shit trough it’s gotten. I’m tired of our politicians not working together for the betterment of the country and all the people in it rather than for their own and their party’s self interests.

I’m not saying that the Trump administration is the direct cause of the state of politics in this country, but it certainly hasn’t improved it any between his behavior and the behavior of anyone who either supports or opposes him.

And the worst part is that I don’t know how we’d even fix it at this point, short of a complete dismantling and rebuilding of our political system, and we all know that would suck.

Sorry for the rant, I’m just sort of feeling dejected with everything that’s going on with our country right now. I don’t think anyone in either party is actively trying to break our country down and ruin us, but no one seems to be doing any good for it either.

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You're "tired" because you had 8 years of a president who shooshed you and fed you what was easy to digest, all the while doing completely unpalatable shit on the downlow.

You're now being shown reality. The world is a messy place. Just because you didn't hear about it before, doesn't mean it wasn't happening. Don't be such a weak willed coward.
 
You're "tired" because you had 8 years of a president who shooshed you and fed you what was easy to digest, all the while doing completely unpalatable shit on the downlow.

You're now being shown reality. The world is a messy place. Just because you didn't hear about it before, doesn't mean it wasn't happening. Don't be such a weak willed coward.
im sorry bb ill try to be more woke like u ok????
 
I’m going to be really honest with you guys right now: I’m ready for the Trump presidency to be over with.

It's like the end of The Wizard of Oz when the curtain is pulled back except Trump isn't the man behind the curtain he's the one who drew back the curtain and exposed the lie. It's all a lie; Iraq was a lie, Syria was a lie, Libya was a lie, etc. The truth is unpleasant but it usually is.

Also Matt Taibbi should stop being such a wuss. Wake me up when there's dozens of dead bodies in the streets and everyone is too scared to cart them away so they just lie there until the rats, crows and dogs finish them off. That's what happens when there's a coup in most countries.
 
It's too bad Trump is constrained by the constitutional democracy system so he can't purge the intelligence services like Stalin purged his foreign intelligence apparatus.

The glow-in-the-darks should fear the Orange Man, not the other way around.
 
im sorry bb ill try to be more woke like u ok????

This is not "woke." Woke is the most retarded version of politically aware there is. I can only assume you use that phrase because you have a very limited understanding outside of pop culture. Stop that.

On a related note, people should watch the new Colin Quinn comedy special "red state/blue state" on Netflix, or pirate it if necessary. He actually does a good job.
 
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Pretty sure there were a few people saying this about Obama too, and they were rightly dismissed as nutjobs.

They also claimed that the military would rise up against Obama for... reasons.

Both the left wing and the right wing have weird ideas about what servicemembers are like. Believe it or not, most of them want to uphold the rule of law in this country, which is also why it would be exceptional if Trump did in fact refuse to leave office when the time comes.
 
Sorry but there’s no turning back. Trump upset the apple cart. Not only do they want to make sure someone like Trump doesn’t want to run, they want to inflict as much pain on his voter base as possible. People don’t really have the luxury to ignore it without denying reality. Big brained centrism died in 2016 much like neoconservatism died in 2012 when Mittens snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Nobody's going to give a shit about Trump once he's out of office especially if a Democrat follows up his presidency.

I still remember when Bush Jr was the Left's public enemy number one they said the same shit about him they're saying about Trump now and in 2019 he's hanging out with the Clintons and Ellen Degeneres.

Hell they said the same things about Ronald Reagan nearly 40 years ago and he's been invoked to attack Trump by TDS sufferers.

As for political polarization the 60s and 70s were even more polarized then today and things settled down in the 80s/90s this too will pass.
 
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