Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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I have nothing against DLs but RDLs and/or SLDLs are the superior movements for the posterior chain. You can throw some Good Mornings in there too on occasion. People should still do some normal deadlifts once in awhile though. I deadlift my RDLs and shrugs up so I can keep my form fresh.
 
I'm a fan of the stiff-leg deadlifts. It's always been an easier movement for me than the OG deadlift. Helps that I can substitute the barbell for the dumbbell.
 
Jerk Sausage said:
oh my god just shut the fuck up and stop giving advice
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yeah, it's techincally called "fractional sets", doing pull ups doesn't directly target your biceps, but you will get big biceps from doing pull ups, depending of the exercise it could be counted as 1/3 of a set, 1/2 a set, or 3/4 of a set, for example, a chin up is around 3/4 of a set for your biceps, and lunges with dumbbells are like 1/3 of a set for your forearms. So even if something doesn't allow you to reach failure on a muscle it's still volume.
 
Anime Waifu NFT collector said:
yeah, it's techincally called "fractional sets", doing pull ups doesn't directly target your biceps, but you will get big biceps from doing pull ups, depending of the exercise it could be counted as 1/3 of a set, 1/2 a set, or 3/4 of a set, for example, a chin up is around 3/4 of a set for your biceps, and lunges with dumbbells are like 1/3 of a set for your forearms. So even if something doesn't allow you to reach failure on a muscle it's still volume.
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then that makes pullups a bad back, shoulder and arm exercise because they target no specific muscle. :)
 
Jerk Sausage said:
oh my god just shut the fuck up and stop giving advice
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no lmao
Jerk Sausage said:
then that makes pullups a bad back, shoulder and arm exercise because they target no specific muscle. :)
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no retard
Pullups recruit the back muscles in a very focalized manner, even if your biceps are involved. The biceps don't get a full rom, and the primary motion of the bicep is not to rotate the scapula or pull things to your body
The DL recruits very little of the back and bicep, very little of the quad and ham. It's a shit movement for upper and lower body development
Using Anime Waifu NFT collector's analogy, you could count them as a 1/16 set of lats, and a an 1/8 set of quads, and so forth. It's worthless if you want big legs or torso.
with this mentality of "one movement to rule them all" the snatch is a the greatest movement of all time because it recruits so many more muscles than the DL, but I hope I don't have to explain why that is retarded
Oberst says as much, and as Lyle says: "There is no everything muscle"
 
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24nagging said:
let me put it like this
X movement trains A, B, C, D and E muscles. It recruits A at 20% efficiency, B at 20%, C at 20%, D at 50% and E at 100%. Now, which muscle got the most mechanical tension? which muscle got the most stimulus? If you go at 0RIR, which muscle would grow more over time? E obviously, with A, B, C and D lagging behind
Now because X trains so many muscles it is a very fatiguing and taxing movement that limits your energy for the rest of your work out.

instead let's say that you have Y, that trains A at 80% and B at 100%, and Z that trains C and D at the same rate. Thus they allow you to train those muscles at a better recruitment rate with more energy to spare in other movements.

this is the logic behind the limitations of the DL. You have to target the muscle to make the muscle grow. The DL targets no specific muscle, which makes it a bad movement for your quads, hams, lats, calves, or biceps. If you wanna grow those muscles, you are better off training those muscles than dicking around with the DL, unless you like it and you just wanna do it. That's fine too
but my point is that it is not an efficient movement for hypertrophy. You get very little in return for a whole lot of systemic fatigue
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>wake up at 4am
>drive to the gym
>do my smith machine hip thrusts for maximal glute isolation
>do my hamstring curls -- one leg at a time to ensure balanced activation
>do my leg extensions to isolate quads
>hop on the good-girl-bad-girl machine to isolate my hip adductors
>head back over to the smith machine for some shrugs
>do my wrist curls, reverse wrist curls, and hammer curls to target my forearms
>lay down on the floor of the gym and start doing crunches to isolate my abs
>do some weighted side bends for obliques
>finish up at noon with the satisfaction of knowing that I have trained every muscle involved in the deadlift movement with optimal efficiency
>bend down to pick up my bag
>snap my shit up because I forgot to program back extensions
 
Anime Waifu NFT collector said:
Search youtube for exercises and stretches to fix it, we can't know what's wrong with you and we can't provide anything more useful than the solutions that already exist on the internet.
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I've aggravated the nerves that run through that channel under the shoulder, so now I have referred pain on my anterior deltoid.

I'm sure Mr. Peptide has some recommendations. I've heard some of you guys accelerate the recovery of a lot of injuries.
 
Legalize Asbestos said:
I've aggravated the nerves that run through that channel under the shoulder, so now I have referred pain on my anterior deltoid.

I'm sure Mr. Peptide has some recommendations. I've heard some of you guys accelerate the recovery of a lot of injuries.
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Pinned BPC 157 and TB500 directly to my shoulder subcutaneously right over the joint. Did all sorts of shoulder PT. Banded y-raises, kettlebell hold things, w holds, everything else I could find 3 days a week Got my shoulder from about a 7 out of 10 pain to about a 2 out of 10 pain in about 2 months. 6 months later and no pain while lifting and a slight amount of pain when testing the absolute limits of my mobility. Shoulder still isn't perfect though. Once in awhile I feel an instability. Mine wasn't an impingement though. I'm not really sure what it was but probably something rotator cuff related considering I've had surgery for that before.
 
Anime Waifu NFT collector said:
Now that you say that, it triggers me how people do low volume in general, but specially for things such as DLs and squats, when I was deadlifting once every 10 days (I learned that from Eddie Hall) I was doing 8 sets per session, why do only 3 sets? you will get more hypertrophy doing more sets, in my case I would do down sets, after about 4 or 5 sets I would lower the weight and increase the reps, and I was adding 1,75kg on each side every 10 days.
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>do more junk volume per session to get more hypertrophy
>only do deadlifts once every 2 weeks to get less hypertrophy
 
VargReallyDidNothingWrong said:
>do more junk volume per session to get more hypertrophy
>only do deadlifts once every 2 weeks to get less hypertrophy
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It's because the conventional DL day (in my case deficit DL) acts as a heavy day while the rest of the lower back volume comes from other exercises, doing two sets of SDLs is a tiny bit of volume, DB rows one side at a time is also lower back volume, regular squats and hexbar squats train the lower back, think about it as a beeg macho heavy workout every 10 days plus a lot of smol ✿◠‿◠ kawaii volume,
 
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