Opinion We Need a Limited Military Draft - Retired colonel wants to force young men into the meat grinder.

  • 🏰 The Fediverse is up. If you know, you know.
  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account

29 Jul 2023
Military.com | By Joe Plenzler

The opinions expressed in this op-ed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of Military.com. If you would like to submit your own commentary, please send your article to opinions@military.com for consideration.

It's time to change how our country fills the ranks of our military.

Since 1775, our nation has used a combination of volunteers and draftees to meet our national defense personnel needs, especially in times of crisis.

Today, the military needs only about 160,000 youth from an eligible population of 30 million to meet its recruitment needs. But after two decades of war -- both of which ended unsuccessfully -- and low unemployment, many experts believe the all-volunteer force has reached a breaking point. And American confidence in its military is at a low.

The fastest and most effective way to resolve this recruiting crisis is to change how we recruit.

Instead of an "either an all-volunteer force or a fully conscripted force" model, I propose a both-and solution.

We should have our military recruiters sign up new troops for 11 months out of the year, and then have the Selective Service draft the delta between the military's needs and the total number recruited.

This model would alleviate the incredible pressure on our recruiters, lower the cost of finding new troops, and significantly reduce the much decried civilian-military gap by subjecting all of America's youth -- rich and poor -- to the possibility of military service via the draft.

This increased public interest might also have the added effect of increasing public pressure to prevent open-ended wars led by unaccountable senior leaders like we experienced in our national debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan.

While the causes of our current recruiting crisis are many, the fastest and best solution lies within our already existing Selective Service System.
This would obviously represent a seismic change, given the more recent history of military drafts.

In 1973, the draft was abolished with the establishment of the all-volunteer force, driven largely by the American public's weariness with our debacle in Vietnam; systemic inequities in the draft (e.g. wealthier Americans being able to defer service); and the fact that the size of our population had become so large in relation to the needs of the military, universal drafting became obsolete.

While the all-volunteer force had the effect of lowering discipline problems and professionalizing the force, it also created a vast gap between American citizens and those who serve -- effectively creating a military warrior caste that now appears more like a multi-generational family business than an organization that represents the true makeup of our democratic republic.

The establishment of the all-volunteer force also drove the military to expend an incredible amount of resources in terms of manpower and dollars to build a recruiting machine to attract America's youth to service. Considering it costs about $15,000 to recruit each new member, the overall cost each year exceeds $2 billion.

And recruitment has risen and fallen with the national unemployment rate.

The causes of this crisis are many, and both politicians and our national leadership are largely to blame.

For nearly a decade now, feckless politicians, using the military as a club to batter their opponents, have exacerbated increasing negative public opinion despite the fact that our military has crushed international terrorism and prevented another large-scale attack on our homeland for 22 years and running.

Despite this success, in 2023, every service except the Marine Corps is poised to miss its recruiting goals. In 2022, the Army alone fell short by 15,000 recruits.
The needs of the nation must be met, and our national leadership would be wise to reinforce the idea that military service is an important responsibility of citizenship.

While conscription has always been a controversial issue throughout our history, a hybrid model would alleviate our current military manpower crisis, increase the connectivity between the American public and its military, and more responsibly use taxpayer dollars.

Holes in our military formations are, in fact, gaps in our national security.

-- Joe Plenzler is a retired combat decorated Marine lieutenant colonel who served as the strategic advisor for communication to three successive Commandants of the Marine Corps from 2010 to 2015.
 
"You can join the army without being a US citizen." That's gonna end fucking well.
Ja, open the gates, Roman American.
goths.JPG
 
I spent last spring and summer with a group of men ranging from 18-55, all of them fit enough to work 12+ hour shifts in heat and humidity (though most were still fat), all of them from some Latin American shithole, all with anchor babies from their girlfriends that got endless welfare services, all of them planning to claim benefits from the goverment when they retire. Why don't you go round them and the rest of the millions of invaders you let in here to go die in your forever wars, colonel? After all don't we need them because they do the work Americans won't according to leftist traitors?
 
Fair warning zog, I will eventually frag you if I'm forced to go.
That may be a good way to get out of the draft.

"I already hate the government. If you enslave me, my hatred of you will grow exponentially. If I survive my conscription, I will take what you've taught me and use it against you. Therefore, not drafting me is within both our best interests."
 
Ah yes, because people who are forced to be somewhere doing something they don't want to do will be such a success. At best you have people doing the bare minimum, at worst, you have people actively sabotaging you out of resentment and you'd have been better off being undermanned all along.
What exactly could you do to stop someone if they say "if you conscript me, I will do everything in my power to undermine and betray you" other than not conscripting them?
 
I'm still young enough to be drafted (by a long shot, unfortunately) and probably in decent enough shape to end up being dragged off. I'll just tell them the truth that I'll shoot my CO the first time I get a gun with live ammunition, see how much longer they want me after that.
 
Hard pass, you want to join the US Military, put in a little more effort than walking across the border. Everyone wants to talk like joining the military is a huge thing, and it can be, especially if you go combat arms. But most of the military is support staff; I'm not interested in giving illegals paperwork because they decided to become a box kicker or paper stapler for 4 years.
Never thought about that side of things... Come to think of it, I don't quite fancy giving your leaders a potential army if there is some kind of civilian uprising either....
Even IF you could get in a front line only catch, I can see the old bastards using them against the natives. You're right, I'm mulling over a wish that could easily be monkey pawed on me.
 
Send all those rah-rahing for intervention in Ukraine first. Jennifer Rubin, Max Boot, Alexander Vindman, Lindsey Graham, et al.

Fight your own damn wars, chickenhawks.
Yes. You want to bring back the draft? Only if NOBODY is exempt. Sitting senator? Your number comes up, drafted. Wall Street Banker? Same. No exemptions, no deferments, everybody goes, or nobody goes.
 
"Limited" just means all the straight White Christians in chud states that is blocking the glorious trans bipoc utopia. Plenzler sounds like a kike name and his writings only exacerbate my suspicion.
 
I like how they're trying to pander to the youth demographic by running ads and propaganda on tiktok, instagram and twitch. It doesn't matter, because if they need more fodder for the war field, they will go out of their way to find you. I signed up when I was 18 and when 9/11 happened, they came to my house over and over to get me to go. Thankfully I was never at home when they showed up, but regardless of what is proposed it will be mandatory with lots in intimidation.
 
Ah yes, because people who are forced to be somewhere doing something they don't want to do will be such a success. At best you have people doing the bare minimum, at worst, you have people actively sabotaging you out of resentment and you'd have been better off being undermanned all along.
What exactly could you do to stop someone if they say "if you conscript me, I will do everything in my power to undermine and betray you" other than not conscripting them?
Put them in jail for several months.

In general, as a person from a country with mandatory army duty, you don't do it because you want to, but because you realize it's a bad job that someone needs to do, and that if you won't do it you will get a black mark on your resume as a pussy faggot, which will never go away. Both which I doubt will happen to zoomers.
 
On the one hand, I agree on a purely practical level that the military's complete inability to recruit is a big problem and that a draft could fix that, at least numerically.

On the other, the military did this to themselves by promoting anything but being the most lethal and effective fighting force on planet earth, and rear admiral glory-hole or whatever the fuck that fat man larping as a middle aged jewish mother's name happens to be is telling me everything I need to know, so get fucked, no draft for you.
 
I would honestly start getting ready for a war with China.

Historically one of the things empires in decline did to try and regain some legitimacy was to start foreign wars and the United States by every metric economic and social is a country in deep decline.
 
I would say that Righties need to keep enlisting to prevent or blunt shitlib capture of the military. If they don't join, of course it'll become more woke! It's what happened with academia, entertainment, law, and civil service.

Conservatives have traditionally been the warrior caste (by which I mean the Enlisted and junior officers). They cannot cede that to their inferiors, or to politicians in uniform.

Alas, it's a little too late for a Long March, and we all know it would be used by TPTB as an excuse to go to war and cull the herd of young Deplorables.
 
Last edited:
You'd think a glowie elite could afford a house worth more than a quarter million.
1690999671933.png 1690999716500.png 1690999822078.png
 
Back
Top Bottom