Opinion We Need a Limited Military Draft - Retired colonel wants to force young men into the meat grinder.

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29 Jul 2023
Military.com | By Joe Plenzler

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It's time to change how our country fills the ranks of our military.

Since 1775, our nation has used a combination of volunteers and draftees to meet our national defense personnel needs, especially in times of crisis.

Today, the military needs only about 160,000 youth from an eligible population of 30 million to meet its recruitment needs. But after two decades of war -- both of which ended unsuccessfully -- and low unemployment, many experts believe the all-volunteer force has reached a breaking point. And American confidence in its military is at a low.

The fastest and most effective way to resolve this recruiting crisis is to change how we recruit.

Instead of an "either an all-volunteer force or a fully conscripted force" model, I propose a both-and solution.

We should have our military recruiters sign up new troops for 11 months out of the year, and then have the Selective Service draft the delta between the military's needs and the total number recruited.

This model would alleviate the incredible pressure on our recruiters, lower the cost of finding new troops, and significantly reduce the much decried civilian-military gap by subjecting all of America's youth -- rich and poor -- to the possibility of military service via the draft.

This increased public interest might also have the added effect of increasing public pressure to prevent open-ended wars led by unaccountable senior leaders like we experienced in our national debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan.

While the causes of our current recruiting crisis are many, the fastest and best solution lies within our already existing Selective Service System.
This would obviously represent a seismic change, given the more recent history of military drafts.

In 1973, the draft was abolished with the establishment of the all-volunteer force, driven largely by the American public's weariness with our debacle in Vietnam; systemic inequities in the draft (e.g. wealthier Americans being able to defer service); and the fact that the size of our population had become so large in relation to the needs of the military, universal drafting became obsolete.

While the all-volunteer force had the effect of lowering discipline problems and professionalizing the force, it also created a vast gap between American citizens and those who serve -- effectively creating a military warrior caste that now appears more like a multi-generational family business than an organization that represents the true makeup of our democratic republic.

The establishment of the all-volunteer force also drove the military to expend an incredible amount of resources in terms of manpower and dollars to build a recruiting machine to attract America's youth to service. Considering it costs about $15,000 to recruit each new member, the overall cost each year exceeds $2 billion.

And recruitment has risen and fallen with the national unemployment rate.

The causes of this crisis are many, and both politicians and our national leadership are largely to blame.

For nearly a decade now, feckless politicians, using the military as a club to batter their opponents, have exacerbated increasing negative public opinion despite the fact that our military has crushed international terrorism and prevented another large-scale attack on our homeland for 22 years and running.

Despite this success, in 2023, every service except the Marine Corps is poised to miss its recruiting goals. In 2022, the Army alone fell short by 15,000 recruits.
The needs of the nation must be met, and our national leadership would be wise to reinforce the idea that military service is an important responsibility of citizenship.

While conscription has always been a controversial issue throughout our history, a hybrid model would alleviate our current military manpower crisis, increase the connectivity between the American public and its military, and more responsibly use taxpayer dollars.

Holes in our military formations are, in fact, gaps in our national security.

-- Joe Plenzler is a retired combat decorated Marine lieutenant colonel who served as the strategic advisor for communication to three successive Commandants of the Marine Corps from 2010 to 2015.
 
Sorry, but I REFUSE to serve in the Armed Forces!
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Tbh, most Americans are so dumb, lazy and fat that they don't even care that they've lost their country and all the freedoms it gave them, so sending them to the Jewish Meat Grinder is probably a good thing.
 
Only if you stop wrapping niggers in cotton wool and letting everyone have pronouns.

Full Metal Jacket the fuckers
 
have the Selective Service draft the delta between the military's needs and the total number recruited
This is such a retarded idea. Young men aren't interested dying for a country that hates them, and I'd be very surprised if they didn't start turning their guns back on you for dragging them to their deaths.

significantly reduce the much decried civilian-military gap by subjecting all of America's youth -- rich and poor -- to the possibility of military service via the draft
We all know any draft would be targeted. They'd draft the red state kids first. Rich people would get out one way or another.

increased public interest might also have the added effect of increasing public pressure to prevent open-ended wars led by unaccountable senior leaders like we experienced in our national debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan
Holy shit, this is retarded. If anything, a draft becomes an unlimited supply of cannon fodder for these unaccountable fucks in their forever-wars. Public pressure is meaningless to them.

our military has crushed international terrorism
Because Afghanistan was such a success?

prevented another large-scale attack on our homeland for 22 years and running
You mean hasn't caused another large-scale attack.

reinforce the idea that military service is an important responsibility of citizenship
Unless you're a woman, right, you fucker? Those of us who would be forced to serve don't believe that serving Joe Biden and the rich fuckers that run things by dying in foreign shitholes is our responsibility. Send Hunter Biden instead, see how he does.
 
This increased public interest might also have the added effect of increasing public pressure to prevent open-ended wars led by unaccountable senior leaders like we experienced in our national debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Like the draft did for World War I, Korea and Vietnam?
 
has crushed international terrorism and prevented another large-scale attack on our homeland for 22 years and running.
wow stunning and brave. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. cornpop says to salute the marines, stay warm in the dark winter of death worser than a christmas in kandahar.

i will burn the retinas of any draft officer that comes to my door with a 20 watt CW laser bought off alibaba that mogs any zogbot eyepro
 
If the standards for "large-scale attack on our homeland" are 9/11 then the policies of the first 222 years also prevented such an attack.
 
Young man, we want YOU... to sign up to go die in a Godforsaken third world hellhole that poses absolutely no threat to your people or nation but is of marginal strategic importance, in the name of diversity and sodomy... I mean, democracy.

What's that, no? Well, too bad, you have no choice. Draft is back. If you like dying face down in a ditch in Kiev, have I got a treat for you!
 
We should have our military recruiters sign up new troops for 11 months out of the year, and then have the Selective Service draft the delta between the military's needs and the total number recruited.
I'm having a hard time discerning how this is different from a regular draft. I wasn't around and I can't really find specifics about anything; aside from people getting draft numbers and then having a monthly lottery or whatever it was to know if your time is up. But the only times you seem to hear about drafts is everything up until Vietnam; and all those times, the nation wasn't in a crisis, but invading another nation. The bean counters got together, determined you'll need x-number of warm bodies to do the build up and sustainment; and the way I understand it, if you enlisted voluntarily, you might get your MOS of choice and avoid being a designated bullet catcher.

So, if recruiting misses its goal, and we're "a nation in crisis," because that's what Ukraine is, apparently. What's the difference between the bean counters of today versus the bean counters of yesterday; they have their warm body metrics to meet, the only difference is the monthly lottery... which is gonna come in the 12th month of this supposed plan, but still exists to plug these gaps in warm body shortages. Do explain how this is a "Limited Military Draft."

This model would alleviate the incredible pressure on our recruiters, lower the cost of finding new troops, and significantly reduce the much decried civilian-military gap by subjecting all of America's youth -- rich and poor -- to the possibility of military service via the draft.
Fucking kill yourself sir. I only ever met one enlisted who came from a rich family, and that's because I could sniff out her way of speaking, carrying herself, and mannerisms of being from a higher caste. Every other "rich kid" in the military has a degree and a desk job making sure the mail clerks don't eat all of their monthly paste allowance.

This increased public interest might also have the added effect of increasing public pressure to prevent open-ended wars led by unaccountable senior leaders like we experienced in our national debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Colonel Dumb-Ass Nigger, Sir, I'm not quite 40 years old. The USA has been at war partaking in police actions for well over half of my fucking life; the majority of it starting before I even graduated high-school. If you expect me what your boss at Raytheon and friends at Lockheed, McDonell, Boeing, or Northrop don't want annual record profits for eternity; you have a lot of lying off your ass to do.

In 1973, the draft was abolished with the establishment of the all-volunteer force, driven largely by the American public's weariness with our debacle in Vietnam; systemic inequities in the draft (e.g. wealthier Americans being able to defer service); and the fact that the size of our population had become so large in relation to the needs of the military, universal drafting became obsolete.
Please see above about your previous statement, where the draft would be unilateral for the rich and the poor. Now do advise how you're going to make our $CURRENT_YEAR$ draft be more unilateral/equitable among the different castes economic levels.

The establishment of the all-volunteer force also drove the military to expend an incredible amount of resources in terms of manpower and dollars to build a recruiting machine to attract America's youth to service. Considering it costs about $15,000 to recruit each new member, the overall cost each year exceeds $2 billion.
I may be older with busted knees and an assortment of mental problems, but I still want to fight the Lava Monster / Balrog / Whatever the fuck it was from the marketing video from back in my day.

For nearly a decade now, feckless politicians, using the military as a club to batter their opponents, have exacerbated increasing negative public opinion despite the fact that our military has crushed international terrorism and prevented another large-scale attack on our homeland for 22 years and running.
Tell me about the one-billion dollar gas station, or letting warlords rape little boys, or guarding opium poppy fields. If you want to pretend to be a moral exemplar, you should do as little damage as possible while doing so. I understand you'll have the inevitable "You can only save one" scenarios, and no, you're not gonna be able to Marvel movie your way out of it... but you don't make deals with the Devil while claiming righteousness.

Despite this success, in 2023, every service except the Marine Corps is poised to miss its recruiting goals. In 2022, the Army alone fell short by 15,000 recruits.
You know why? Because the Marine Corps hasn't bitched out with their marketing (yet). Who are the Marines? WE'RE THE TIP OF THE SPEAR! FIRST IN LAST OUT! LIFE-TAKERS AND BABY-MAKERS! OORAH FUCKING KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!

You want marketing? Stick to your strengths.

The Navy is for manwhores. You want to fuck exotic women in nations most of your countrymen can't point to on a map? Join the Navy, you'll be balls deep in South-East Asian whores so fast, you'll get bored of them.

Air Force is plane autism and college graduates who want to be a suburban dad but be "respected."

I don't know what the Army is, you guys have had an identity crisis for a long time. You guys go everywhere, so if you want a jobs placement program with free vacations to Europe and shit, go Army.

Holes in our military formations are, in fact, gaps in our national security.
Now tell me about the border; and all the non-South American nationals who are showing up somehow.

-- Joe Plenzler is a retired combat decorated Marine lieutenant colonel who served as the strategic advisor for communication to three successive Commandants of the Marine Corps from 2010 to 2015.
Conway was okay, Amos was a bitch (he's a fellow Air Winger, he's a bitch), Dunford looked like every abusive alcoholic step dad (and acted like it at times), and I don't anything about Neller. So I'm assuming you handled the first three.
 
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Here's a thought; no draft for the current population, but all immigrants must serve a mandatory amount of years before earning their citizenship. Two birds with one stone.

Or, y'know, stop ruining lives on account of the lizards or at least go back to being subtle about it. Hating your own country, culture and people would probably go a long way too lads, those diversity programs done hurt you boy.
 
Here's a thought; no draft for the current population, but all immigrants must serve a mandatory amount of years before earning their citizenship. Two birds with one stone.

Or, y'know, stop ruining lives on account of the lizards or at least go back to being subtle about it. Hating your own country, culture and people would probably go a long way too lads, those diversity programs done hurt you boy.
Hard pass, you want to join the US Military, put in a little more effort than walking across the border. Everyone wants to talk like joining the military is a huge thing, and it can be, especially if you go combat arms. But most of the military is support staff; I'm not interested in giving illegals paperwork because they decided to become a box kicker or paper stapler for 4 years.
 
American citizens and those who serve -- effectively creating a military warrior caste that now appears more like a multi-generational family business than an organization that represents the true makeup of our democratic republic.
Niggers and Spics won't ever serve in a large capacity in the fields that actually matter. Sure they'll join as the POGiest people way in the back for benefits, but white men were your special ops and pilots. The military used to represent demographics before the influx of non-whites

The needs of the nation must be met, and our national leadership would be wise to reinforce the idea that military service is an important responsibility of citizenship.
No, fuck the nation. You're giving people either a choice of being in military jail or dying so the Bidens amd Jews can make profit. And if anyone is drafted they'll probably be a return of fragging officers
Sorry, but I REFUSE to serve in the Armed Forces!
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always remember a person on jail takes at least one person to watch them instead of fighting
Unless you're a woman, right, you fucker? Those of us who would be forced to serve don't believe that serving Joe Biden and the rich fuckers that run things by dying in foreign shitholes is our responsibility.
Yeah this is something I've always found funny. They talk about responsibilities of the citizen, hit women don't have to do it. Fatties are out since they won't lose the weight. And about 40% of niggers are too dumb to serve.

I'm surprised Chuck Jewmer hasn't tried passing a law that Military is a prerequisite for voting except for Jews, women, niggers, and tranies. Or a large donation to the DNC
 
Alright, when's the next big war against China coming up? I know the US top-command is fucking BEGGING for it now based on the output of media shit so chop, chop, let's go, hurry the hell up already.
 
No. We don't need a draft. There is no war going on the US is directly involved in. The US doesn't have any enemies left. The Russians have been exposed as the incompetent clowns in Ukraine. They couldn't even take Ukraine. China is a just a commie chink copy of the Russians. Most of the stuff they have is just poor copies of Russian weapons vehicles with some cosmetic changes. The Chinese army isn't any better off than the Russian army. There is no one left to fight. There is no serious enemy left. All the bad guys are garbage tier and aren't worth the hype. China is about to fall anyway. Their economy will most likely collapse before the decade is over. Their population is collapsing. Russia is basically done as well. Their economy is in shambles because of the sanctions. Their population decline is about as bad as the Chinese. The Russian decline started back in the late 70's when it was still the Soviet Union. Then you have the US it's facing the same issues just not quite as badly. A shit economy in decline. Population decline. Things aren't looking good for the three super powers. The countries that make all the problems in the world. When they finally collapse the world will finally be safe.

Now fuck you Boomer. You go first faggot.
 
Recruitment goals missed by 15,000, US prison population 1,200,000. Help me run the math, where can I find dumb niggers ready to die for freedom drag queen story hour in Tehran?
 
How is it gonna work? By overall population? By relative state population? What would you do when the vast amount of the population won't pass the most basic shit due to stupidity and obesity? Would women be included? Would "women" be included? How many desktop jobs will be out there to give to the 90% of zoomers? What is even the point when the amount of people required is a fraction of the total zoomer population, people aren't going to be happy to be the only ones in their class fucker over?

Here's a thought; no draft for the current population, but all immigrants must serve a mandatory amount of years before earning their citizenship. Two birds with one stone.
I don't think this idea is going to work in the way you imagine.
 
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