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That means she didn't apply. And she fired her main endorsements guy (me).
Which is sad because Wards 11 and 19 are JP. Pretty much the progressive center of the district, about 45% black and 30% white hippies, and the main epicenter of where Stephen Lynch is known as a racist.

Were you around when she spoke to JP Progressives? How did Wu go over? Hard to gauge from the video with Frank screaming like a dog in a wok. Good signature territory at least?
 
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Come on, we may be mean and use foul language, call eachother names... but that's wayyyyy below the belt. You should be ashamed.
You snowflake.

Were you around when she spoke to JP Progressives? How did Wu go over? Hard to gauge from the video with Frank screaming like a dog in a wok. Good signature territory at least?
She was well received, but they never set up the debate they were going to, because Stephen Lynch never replied. Because he doesn't like progressives. Yes, JP is not just good signature territory, it is THE BEST. The JP Whole Foods is like the sweet spot of the entire 8th.
 
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JP is mostly rich progressive yuppies. I know a couple people in the area reached out to her a year and a half ago about hosting her for a coffee, and she never replied to them. One asked repeatedly before giving up. If a real progressive candidate ever wanted to beat Lynch, JP would be their priority. Wu didn't know and didn't care and shot herself in the foot.
 
JP is mostly rich progressive yuppies. I know a couple people in the area reached out to her a year and a half ago about hosting her for a coffee, and she never replied to them. One asked repeatedly before giving up. If a real progressive candidate ever wanted to beat Lynch, JP would be their priority. Wu didn't know and didn't care and shot herself in the foot.

This is the kind of behaviour from Wu that baffles me. OK, she's lazy, but she's being handed opportunities on a plate where all she had to do was write a few emails and show up at the appointed time. That's a special kind of lazy, one that speaks of having ulterior motives for this whole political campaign thing. I actually wrote to Wu once about something she tweeted, and she got back to me almost instantly and we had a polite exchange, albeit one from different viewpoints (I like to think me from the point of view of actually knowing something, her from blustering ignorantly.) She didn't even accuse me of mansplaining. Why is it she can answer queries from randos on the internet and not from local supporters? It's weird.

Anyway, I was wondering... Warren, do you feel like you've got a better grasp of why we all here find Wu so fascinating now? It seemed to me that back when you first came you thought we were all Trump supporting Nazi stormtroopers intent on destroying a progressive champion. I wonder if your experiences since have helped you understand why Wu could be a uniquely fascinating individual for reasons entirely orthogonal to politics?
 
That means she didn't apply. And she fired her main endorsements guy (me).
Which is sad because Wards 11 and 19 are JP. Pretty much the progressive center of the district, about 45% black and 30% white hippies, and the main epicenter of where Stephen Lynch is known as a racist.
Did she not apply because she had no one to do it for her or because she’s too lazy and feels the task is beneath her?
 
She was well received, but they never set up the debate they were going to, because Stephen Lynch never replied. Because he doesn't like progressives. Yes, JP is not just good signature territory, it is THE BEST. The JP Whole Foods is like the sweet spot of the entire 8th.
Did you consider that maybe it’s not him hating progressives?
Brianna is a fringe candidate. Lynch is a figure in the community. He can crush her by simply ignoring her, because nobody knows or cares who she is.
This isn’t fighting dirty, just good politics. Don’t give a weaker opponent the platform to become strong.
 
Did you consider that maybe it’s not him hating progressives?
Brianna is a fringe candidate. Lynch is a figure in the community. He can crush her by simply ignoring her, because nobody knows or cares who she is.
This isn’t fighting dirty, just good politics. Don’t give a weaker opponent the platform to become strong.
It's both. He doesn't want to debate her anywhere *and* he hates progressives. And I'm not saying so to be pro Brianna. As part of his stump speech he makes fun of progressives, and every time he goes on NPR he speaks out against progressives.

Fair point, but one that I think is more applicable if one is talking about something like school vouchers or trash ordinances rather than existential and moral threats posed by supposed white supremacists.
Maybe in a white town. JP takes racism very seriously, as they deal with it on a daily basis. There is serious tension between the white yuppies/hippies in JP and the black people being gentrified by them. And a huge chunk of the activism base is black church people.
 
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Maybe in a white town. JP takes racism very seriously, as they deal with it on a daily basis. There is serious tension between the white yuppies/hippies in JP and the black people being gentrified by them. And a huge chunk of the activism base is black church people.

Black church people are often homophobic and transphobic. It's far from universal, and men are more likely than women to be that way, but while they're almost always economically liberal, they're quite often socially conservative. There's an undertone of this even among the political activists and community organizers (like Obama) who emerged from this milieu, where they know that outright homophobia is not going to win them any points in the Democratic establishment, but (also like Obama) they aren't necessarily going to do a whole lot for that constituency if given the opportunity.

I'll note that even Obama, supposedly the pro-gay hero, didn't really move on those issues until a "gaffe" by Joe Biden (or possibly a deliberate trial balloon) where he unambiguously endorsed gay marriage, which had an overwhelmingly positive response.

You still haven't answered the major question here, though, which is that if Lynch is supposedly such a horrible racist whitey DINO, why isn't this community responding to an obvious threat and actively seeking out opponents?

It's because you're again exaggerating how awful Lynch is, like you did when you tried to claim he was basically Whitey Bulger reincarnated, even though his first winning campaign was against one of Whitey's close relatives.
 
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You still haven't answered the major question here, though, which is that is Lynch is supposedly such a horrible racist whitey DINO, why isn't this community responding to an obvious threat and actively seeking out opponents?

It's because you're again exaggerating how awful Lynch is, like you did when you tried to claim he was basically Whitey Bulger reincarnated, even though his first winning campaign was against one of Whitey's close relatives.

This is exactly what I was trying to say but in a much more articulate manner because it's hard to think with dicks constantly in my mouth. I don't know whether to laugh or get pissed whenever I hear progressives describe candidate X as a bloodthirsty genocidal race puritan but still can't be fucked to get out of bed to vote for the opposition.
 
You still haven't answered the major question here, though, which is that is Lynch is supposedly such a horrible racist whitey DINO, why isn't this community responding to an obvious threat and actively seeking out opponents?

It's because you're again exaggerating how awful Lynch is, like you did when you tried to claim he was basically Whitey Bulger reincarnated, even though his first winning campaign was against one of Whitey's close relatives.

Be careful, he may call you the "B**a*na" word. Or a "snowflake" (which I'm not really sure how that applies to me, feel free to explain, Warren).

But at least Warren has come to sense enough to see that as an insult. Heck, 2 months ago he would probably have thrown the glove down over you "taking the LORDs name in vain" like that. *chuckle*
I guess all of our evidence, the lolcow wiki, the ton of shitty experiences he directly had weren't enough.. but once his friend that he threw directly into the lion den ran out screaming he changed his tune and recognized the fact.

That still blows my mind. When Warren was talking about putting his replacement into position it was horrific to read. His friend was all like "You said she's good, right? And she's progressive? I'm taking your word on this bro, I don't know anything about her [probably a lie], but if you say she's on the right side I trust you."
I'm just guessing, @W person cow , but given that you haven't provided us any stories after you of your replacements... is that friend mad at you? I would probably be pretty upset if I didn't research my employer but instead relied on my friend's word, double checked, but was still given the green light to make myself the latest Wu victim.

I'm not blaming you [much], I think you were still in shock when Brianna fired you and your friend replaced you. Maybe part of you thought that it was your own fault and that it would be different with him, maybe she really was a good person and thousands of people online are all liars yadda yadda yadda.. But really, in the future, look after your friends better. You should have let dude know that you had midjudged Brianna and that it was probably going to be a shit time; that he is still free to take the job but you are recusing yourself from responsibility of the upcoming abuse by letting him know your real experience and what others are saying.
 
Because first they have to know the other guy or gal is not a racist also. And will he or she help the schools etc. Which means actually coming to their community. Which Brianna has done 3 times cause I dragged her there, and both Lynch and Voehl have done 1 time.
All 3 of them get an F.
 
Well if all available candidates are racist then I guess it's best to go with the one with the most experience #Lynch2018
 
Because first they have to know the other guy or gal is not a racist also.

@W person cow

So.... I wouldn't call myself a "racist" with the usual connotation. I am, however, a realist. If there are facts, studies, observations, and experiences that all lead to a conclusion, I'm going to go with that conclusion.

So I don't see any set of people (black, woman, skinny, fat, piercings, tattoos, whatever) as lesser based exclusively on those attributes.. but I also don't deny clear facts and patterns.
For example, a woman recently sued her doctor for sexual harassment for "body shaming" her by telling her she needed to lose weight or her self-inflicted diabetes was going to kill her. I don't buy that for a second. Fat people SHOULD be body shamed. Hell, I was overweight, I still am slightly. Yes it was my choice to keep eating, and yes that should be fair game for someone to make fun of me. They were literally trying to promote a healthier life style in me, to extend/save my life.

Some things like skin colour, you can't choose. For example, it's shown that the top 20% of black people (measured by IQ) intersects with the 50% line of whites. Meaning, the "genius" class of black people, their top 20%, are dumber than 1 out of 2 white people. IQ is supposed to be relatively independent of education and memorization of facts, it's not perfect but it does measure to some agree your ability to learn and solve problems.
This doesn't mean every black person out there is an idiot, but there is a definite pattern of lower IQ and thus they need to make it up by working harder and dedicating more time towards edumakationz. I've had black friends, they have every opportunity to be a good person I think, regardless of their genetics. Many don't.

So I'm curious of your thoughts on the matter. I give people equal opportunity no matter what, although my expectations are biased towards experience and what I know. I don't think that all black people are the same as all white people because that's proven false. If you're one of the good ones, fine, we can be friends.

My ex, on the other hand, saw the topics as completely verboten. Everyone was the same no matter what, no matter the science, no matter experience, no matter observation, because that's the way she wished it was. Even me suggesting that a black person would prefer me put on the rap radio station over classic rock would be met with scorn... even though the chances are extremely high that said black person would prefer the rap station. Like I said, equal opportunity. If they said "turn that shit off why don't you put on some floyd or something?" I'd be surprised, but I wouldn't argue with him, "What? But you're black! You can ONLY like rap music!" That's stupid.
So, as I've said, I'm a realist. If there is data out there and my experience shows it, I'm going to use it across the board. My ex would use data and experience unless it suggested that different people might be different. Where do you stand on the matter?
 
It's both. He doesn't want to debate her anywhere *and* he hates progressives. And I'm not saying so to be pro Brianna. As part of his stump speech he makes fun of progressives, and every time he goes on NPR he speaks out against progressives.
Well, and not to be a cock, but making fun of progressives seems to keep him in office, because he's been there 5 years, so something he's doing is resonating with voters.

I'm really not ripping on you, man, but at a certain point, there's just "good politicking".
He should not ever debate Brianna. He'd win, because she's an imbecile who fabricated her credentials, but giving her a second of media notice is working against his own interests. Why fight a problem when you can literally ignore it out of existence?

Debating her in public could give her access to a larger audience than she'd ever reach on her own. Silencing her by refusing to acknowledge her forces her to remain in obscurity, and thus out of his hair.

As for his alleged anti-progressives bias, again, if it works, why stop doing it?
 
@W person cow

So.... I wouldn't call myself a "racist" with the usual connotation. I am, however, a realist. If there are facts, studies, observations, and experiences that all lead to a conclusion, I'm going to go with that conclusion.

So I don't see any set of people (black, woman, skinny, fat, piercings, tattoos, whatever) as lesser based exclusively on those attributes.. but I also don't deny clear facts and patterns.
For example, a woman recently sued her doctor for sexual harassment for "body shaming" her by telling her she needed to lose weight or her self-inflicted diabetes was going to kill her. I don't buy that for a second. Fat people SHOULD be body shamed. Hell, I was overweight, I still am slightly. Yes it was my choice to keep eating, and yes that should be fair game for someone to make fun of me. They were literally trying to promote a healthier life style in me, to extend/save my life.

Some things like skin colour, you can't choose. For example, it's shown that the top 20% of black people (measured by IQ) intersects with the 50% line of whites. Meaning, the "genius" class of black people, their top 20%, are dumber than 1 out of 2 white people. IQ is supposed to be relatively independent of education and memorization of facts, it's not perfect but it does measure to some agree your ability to learn and solve problems.
This doesn't mean every black person out there is an idiot, but there is a definite pattern of lower IQ and thus they need to make it up by working harder and dedicating more time towards edumakationz. I've had black friends, they have every opportunity to be a good person I think, regardless of their genetics. Many don't.

So I'm curious of your thoughts on the matter. I give people equal opportunity no matter what, although my expectations are biased towards experience and what I know. I don't think that all black people are the same as all white people because that's proven false. If you're one of the good ones, fine, we can be friends.

My ex, on the other hand, saw the topics as completely verboten. Everyone was the same no matter what, no matter the science, no matter experience, no matter observation, because that's the way she wished it was. Even me suggesting that a black person would prefer me put on the rap radio station over classic rock would be met with scorn... even though the chances are extremely high that said black person would prefer the rap station. Like I said, equal opportunity. If they said "turn that shit off why don't you put on some floyd or something?" I'd be surprised, but I wouldn't argue with him, "What? But you're black! You can ONLY like rap music!" That's stupid.
So, as I've said, I'm a realist. If there is data out there and my experience shows it, I'm going to use it across the board. My ex would use data and experience unless it suggested that different people might be different. Where do you stand on the matter?

One major factual objection. Genius is not defined as the top 20 percent of a population. It's more like the top two percent.
 
Well, and not to be a cock, but making fun of progressives seems to keep him in office, because he's been there 5 years, so something he's doing is resonating with voters.
As for his alleged anti-progressives bias, again, if it works, why stop doing it?
Yeah I'm sure it works against the two clueless wonders he's running against. He definitely knows more about campaigning and governing than both of them combined. But I got to tell ya, I may have been a lazy campaigner but I got to more places than he did, and talked to more people, and most people like at least *some* progressive issues, including you. This is 2018.
And as far as the out of touch Democrat stereotypes, he is as much one as Brianna. He is all over Russiagate. Voehl is the only real man of the people. And he is as rookie as Brianna.
With some decent small funding, I could whoop all 3 of them in a 4-way race :)
 
One major factual objection. Genius is not defined as the top 20 percent of a population. It's more like the top two percent.

Yeah, I was moreso indicating "the brightest." 20% and 50% are just nice easy numbers (1 in 5, 1 in 2). If you consider that high schools are broken into "special ed" (~2%), "below average" (~25%), "average" (~50%), and above average ( ~25%) [yes I know that's 102%] then it's the people in the "above average" group that aren't just average folks that work hard.

Whatever you want to call that group... if there are 30 black people in the room and 30 white people in the room, the top 6 black people would have IQs less than 15 (half) of the white people.

Is that more clear?

My question to Warren (and you're free to answer as well) is whether you believe that studied facts like these are to be considered, or (as with my ex) they are to be ignored completely because they wish all people were exactly equal
 
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Yeah I'm sure it works against the two clueless wonders he's running against. He definitely knows more about campaigning and governing than both of them combined. But I got to tell ya, I may have been a lazy campaigner but I got to more places than he did, and talked to more people, and most people like at least *some* progressive issues, including you. This is 2018.
And as far as the out of touch Democrat stereotypes, he is as much one as Brianna. He is all over Russiagate. Voehl is the only real man of the people. And he is as rookie as Brianna.
With some decent small funding, I could whoop all 3 of them in a 4-way race :)
Oh I'm not claiming he's ideal. The issue is that he appears to be a very good politician with a lot of connections and funding, and unfortunately, that trumps just about everything. This is the simple reality of the system. Money, savvy, and having the right friends beats earnest commitment to the issues and good character every time.

In theory, he could be overtaken by someone with a lot of grassroots support (I'm talking overwhelming), and a spotless public record who was well-spoken, popular, and progressive, but that's not Wu and never will be.
The sad truth is, you need a squeaky clean Obama-ish well spoken guy who everyone loves. Fringe candidates will be eaten alive by this guy before they leave the gate.
 
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