Warlockracy - Potatozone game reviewer, has good Fallout 2 and Morrowind mod reviews, why is there no discussion about him?

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If he listed Legion using vertibirds and shit, then it's Frontier levels of retarded. They use tanks and other advanced technology there too(including a possible robot companion), and it is most certainly NOT the Legion as we know it(altho to be fair, the game does point out that due to distance from the main camp in Mojave, it has become a "liberal splinter" of The Legion that mostly does whatever it wants).
I blame this line of thinking entirely on "Birds of a Feather" quest where Legion is found purchasing energy weapons in bulk. It makes no sense, and it opens the door to Legion using advanced technology in the future if they're interested in it now. I definitely like the idea of a low-tech faction that gets shit done thru sheer conditioning and numbers, not just a Brotherhood/NCR clone or a raider tribe wearing red skirts.
This is actually closer to the very original design for The Legion back in Van Buren, where they were mercenaries with slave quotas making smuggling runs for mysterious buyers. Nowhere was it said they don't use technology, they're just another merc group that probably just likes the ancient roman aesthetics. The planned Fallout 4 that never happened would have still had the NCR-Legion conflict over Hoover Dam, altho why that would be nobody knows as their ultimate end goal was never written(or at least leaked).
 
There’s implications of Legion using other tech improvements as well in game. Rex has a faded Legion Bull on his side implying that prior to his ownership by the King he was used by the Legion. That would require an advanced understanding of tech in order to maintain him with the assumption he was eventually traded to one of the caravans that pass through Arizona for supplies once he was too run down to continue as a dog of war.

I personally don’t consider much of what base New Vegas says of the Legion as canon. It’s so watered down and nonsensical to the direct statements that Caesar makes in his spiel. It makes more sense that there would be a conceited effort to have members of the Frumentari or another segment of the Legion to have an understanding of the tech in order to utilize it to further their own goals. Caesar notes this with his statement that his Legion is the hypothesis, the NCR and the Old World their antithesis, and when the two clash his Legion will achieve a synthesis. New Vegas states this but fails to express it in the story. Instead Caesar spergs about random things supports the cannibals, etc, etc.

The outlawing of modern medicine I took to be keeping the literal tribals who were years removed from it away from highly addictive drugs that would compromise your fighting force. Once the battles over and the Legion can settle those types of laws would likely be laxed to focus on the recreational instead. The game never mentions it but I can’t imagine injecting yourself with a stimpak 4 times in a row can be healthy.
 
There’s implications of Legion using other tech improvements as well in game. Rex has a faded Legion Bull on his side implying that prior to his ownership by the King he was used by the Legion. That would require an advanced understanding of tech in order to maintain him with the assumption he was eventually traded to one of the caravans that pass through Arizona for supplies once he was too run down to continue as a dog of war.
That's likely a reference to Van Buren again. Denver, aka Dog City, is completely overrun with feral and wild dogs, altho there is also more advanced cyber-dogs and even prototype robot dogs as well. Actually, I think one of the endings clearly states that Rex served as a police dog in Denver before the war, and we know Legion gets some of it's best dogs from there(in Van Buren, one of the few encounters with The Legion would be in Denver). It's less accurate to say that Legion has a special division of Cyber-Dogs or use them in battle, and moreso that they simply found him and he was kept as a curiosity, maybe a personal pet of Ceasar. If you bring Rex to Anthony, he flat out says he was lost in a battle of Denver, so I guess he traveled all the way from there to Freeside somehow.
I personally don’t consider much of what base New Vegas says of the Legion as canon. It’s so watered down and nonsensical to the direct statements that Caesar makes in his spiel. It makes more sense that there would be a conceited effort to have members of the Frumentari or another segment of the Legion to have an understanding of the tech in order to utilize it to further their own goals. Caesar notes this with his statement that his Legion is the hypothesis, the NCR and the Old World their antithesis, and when the two clash his Legion will achieve a synthesis. New Vegas states this but fails to express it in the story. Instead Caesar spergs about random things supports the cannibals, etc, etc.
The Frumentarii do their best to blend in with whatever civilization or tribe they're infiltrating, that of course means learning about their customs and technology they use, but it's clear that Ceasar is banning use of technology, science and medicine for his own soldiers so that they don't end up depending on it. Ceasar isn't Ted Kaczynski, he has his own Auto-Doc and even a high-tech power fist, it's clear he understands technology and has people that also do. It's just that outside of his own needs, he makes sure it's used as little as possible, and tries to keep it away from his men so they don't grow weak by abusing it. Remember, Legion teaches it's people Roman mythology and Ceasar tells his men that he is the Son of Mars, this means that keeping his society low-tech is not just practical when most of them are easily fooled uneducated tribals but also has a secondary goal: making sure nobody knows that he's making this up as he goes along. Most people serving him are ignorant tribals that don't know better, the lore states that anyone actually educated in their lands, like Followers, get killed on the spot. Last thing Ceasar needs is some of his soldiers finding a history book or a working holotape and finding out about the real Roman empire. The only technology Ceasar would be entertaining using is whatever is immediately needed by him and his army right now, so his Auto-Doc to keep himself alive and weaponry for his soldiers, like the artillery gun or energy weapons from the Van Graff deal. Everything else is forbidden unless Ceasar makes an exception for it, makes sense to me. As for the cannibals(White Glove Society) it's clear he only needs them so that they help him take over the city and weaken it before he arrives with an army there. He also recruits Omerats to stage a massacre on The Strip and plant explosives all around The Strip, the plan is to terrorize Vegas while his army is busy taking The Dam, by the time his soldiers arrive in Freeside there should be much less opposition. He plans to integrate Omertas and White Gloves into his society just like has has with 76 former tribes, ie buck breaks them and crucifies anyone who offers any resistance, then takes the women and enslaves them. He and House are the only ones with any long term plan, Yes Man literally just goes along with what you do because he has no choice and NCR is only there for the resources and land, it's actually a good bit of writing. And yes, Ceasar is a hypocritical prick that isn't nearly as smart as he thinks he is and often times contradicts himself, that's his character. Only his ignorant men think of him as some sort of second coming of Mars here to help them reclaim The Wasteland, because he indoctrinated them, everybody else sees him as a petty tyrant.
The outlawing of modern medicine I took to be keeping the literal tribals who were years removed from it away from highly addictive drugs that would compromise your fighting force. Once the battles over and the Legion can settle those types of laws would likely be laxed to focus on the recreational instead. The game never mentions it but I can’t imagine injecting yourself with a stimpak 4 times in a row can be healthy.
This is the setting that has very powerful healing tribal herbs and remedies, like Healing Powders or Hydra. It is perfectly understandable that Ceasar would simply not need to depend on stimpacks of the old world anymore, which is actually really smart. Those will run out eventually, and even tho you can make more, you still need the know-how and the tech to make them, which his army lacks. All you need to make powders are the right ingredients, on the other hand, which are plentiful. They also weight less, which is important for an army that is on the constant move and usually has to live off the land. NCR, on the other hand, needs to depend on constant supply runs and has complicated logistics, something that is a massive issue at the time of the game and is easily exploitable. Only Rangers can live off the land in a similar manner, and they're few in numbers compared to the mundane troops. Ceasar is making sure that almost every single man is on par with The Rangers, and without the need for non-renewable resources or high-tech weapons. This strategy would have worked too, Legion only lost the first battle because Hanlon laid a trap for them. They took over The Dam, and would have held it too if they didn't pursue the escaping troops.
Anyways, I doubt Ceasar would allow recreational drugs in his society, they do nothing but poison it. Recreational herbs maybe, but only because it's too much of a pain in the ass to fully enforce, much like prohibition in the 20s. I could see Ceasar eventually introducing some minor tech like stimpacks in his Pax Romana, but that would be long after he conquers, or otherwise integrates, all of post-war America that he is realistically able to hold, and even then he will probably be dead by the time this would be introduced. But now we're going into even deeper "what ifs" on how would Legion controlled territory look like 20-30-50 years or more after their victory in Mojave. For all we know, victory or not, Legion will still collapse almost immediately after his death and it's a moot discussion.
 
Not-Gundams in a post-apoc setting?
That or other superweapons
You could have one faction managing to salvage enough tech and knowledge to create a non-gundam to conquer the rest of them. Open up quests to either help finish it or sabotage it. If you do the former, it can also open up quest to steal it for others or for yourself
 
You know personally I never understood all the hoopla over the Bin Laden harddrive finds, he had several children and who knows who else living with him so when all these odd things like Pixar movies or Animal Crossing come to the forefront really doesnt seem that strange to me. I think its easier to believe that one of his several dozen nieces or nephews asked for some games and movies
 
I think its easier to believe that one of his several dozen nieces or nephews asked for some games and movies
It's the hypocrisy at display. He's busy championing barbarism and rallying against the West, while his own progeny is busy consuming Western products, and he himself has no qualms about using technology created by Whites.
 
It's the hypocrisy at display. He's busy championing barbarism and rallying against the West, while his own progeny is busy consuming Western products, and he himself has no qualms about using technology created by Whites.
I mean, the guy was a CIA bitch during the Afghan war, why would anyone be shocked?
 
It is more fun to imagine Bin Laden sitting and playing the shit out of C&C then his kids doing it.
 
It's the hypocrisy at display. He's busy championing barbarism and rallying against the West, while his own progeny is busy consuming Western products, and he himself has no qualms about using technology created by Whites.
Friend I dont mean to denigrate you, but I think we can both obviously agree Bin Laden was a hypocrite. I think he was deep down both deeply committed to Jihadist ideals and at the same time an admirer of Western technology, and probably even virtues. I know thats hard to try and rationalize in your head but people often have blatantly contradicting views that they somehow rationalize in their mind, people are strange like that
 
Animal Crossing come to the forefront really doesnt seem that strange to me. I think its easier to believe that one of his several dozen nieces or nephews asked for some games and movies
"I like the superweapon general. Her patriot missiles one-shot airplanes and the Aurora Alpha is a fun plane to bomb the enemy with" -Osama Bin Laden
 
dumb person tries to talk about RTS.
I had zoned out his bit at the end about the "industry focus on competitive multiplayer" but isn't that just wrong? I can't really think of any RTS that has the same kind of e-sports competitive scene as Blizzard's games.

Also weird to think that it took him 4 years to do a review on Tiberian Sun when the first video on his channel was a mod for it.
 
"I don't consider the canon to be canon."
--Someone at the Council of Nicaea, probably.
So much is stripped from what it’s supposed to be and the writers themselves don’t like what they wrote. I’ve always viewed the four separate endings as a settling of the region, with good and bad aspects associated with each one. NCR is good, but it has some severe corruption that you can try to nip in the bud. House results in something that seems really good, but could end up Orwellian. Yes Man is absolute freedom, but in the post apocalypse that has its issues.

The odd one out is Caesar’s Legion. It has no real benefit. It does a disservice to the writing in my opinion as the issues with the Legion are extremely fixable, so I just choose to ignore it.
 
There’s implications of Legion using other tech improvements as well in game
I always felt like it was pretty obvious The Legion doesn't shun tech for specialty purposes when three hundred of the fuckers tried to assassinate me over the course of my playthrough with high powered rifles and plasma grenades. Maybe the grenades were a mod or something.

Regardless, I don't mind them using high tech, they can remain low tech for the rank and file. They don't waste plasma rifles and vertibirds on Joe Unga Bunga from the buttfuck tribe, but special agents and specially trained members of the faction would have no reason not to.
 
I always felt like it was pretty obvious The Legion doesn't shun tech for specialty purposes when three hundred of the fuckers tried to assassinate me over the course of my playthrough with high powered rifles and plasma grenades. Maybe the grenades were a mod or something.
Something Fallout always seemed to struggle with including the early Fallouts was communicating nuance if you didn't pay attention. A lot of people don't pay attention to the game and miss the nuance.
 
You know personally I never understood all the hoopla over the Bin Laden harddrive finds, he had several children and who knows who else living with him so when all these odd things like Pixar movies or Animal Crossing come to the forefront really doesnt seem that strange to me. I think its easier to believe that one of his several dozen nieces or nephews asked for some games and movies
Because it's funny to think that I may have ended up in a match of CnC or CS 1.6 against Bin Laden. And if you don't think like that then you must have had a shit childhood and lost all your whimsy.
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=deFLXte3MRANEw video, dumb person tries to talk about RTS.
Nice video, it's interesting how RTS really died as a genre despite being massive back in the day. Probably because games became faster and you have less dopamine than a standard shooter. Not to mention the competitive skill gap is absolutely insane so unless you are playing with friends you basically lose 5 minutes into a match, unlike other games that at least give you the illusion of a fair fight.
"I don't consider the canon to be canon."
--Someone at the Council of Nicaea, probably.
Magnus did everything wrong.
It is more fun to imagine Bin Laden sitting and playing the shit out of C&C then his kids doing it.
I don't know if children would even play that game if given a choice of anything else.
 
I had zoned out his bit at the end about the "industry focus on competitive multiplayer" but isn't that just wrong? I can't really think of any RTS that has the same kind of e-sports competitive scene as Blizzard's games.
That's not for want of trying. These days, you've got maybe three RTSes with reasonable competitive scenes - Starcraft, Age of Empires 2 and Starcraft 2 - plus maybe Warcraft 3 if you're feeling very generous, but that's mostly atop a pile of games that died trying to chase the e-sports audience. Relic fell into that quite obviously, with Company of Heroes 2 and especially Dawn of War 3 both being competitive-focused to their detriment (although that was hardly the only thing wrong with either) with Age of Empires 4 being a more technically-competent game that nonetheless chased e-sports as hard as it could with only a token campaign, while in a similar vein, competitive multiplayer was pretty much the only aspect of Command & Conquer 4 that received any attention from EA, although that was as much a trainwreck as the rest of the game - the entire goal behind the project was to make something tailored to being played in Korean PC bangs.

Outside of the fallen giants of the RTS industry, it's not any better. Who could forget Grey Goo, a desperate attempt to ape Starcraft 2's multiplayer? Or R.U.S.E, which barely made an effort at singleplayer at all? It's trend that's only recently started to turn, and even then that's only partially - the dull-as-dishwater Stormgate is the highest-budget current-year RTS, made by a bunch of ex-Blizzard people, and tried to cultivate an e-sports scene from its first pre-alpha, while the recently-cancelled Battle Aces had an almost-identical story, but ran out of runway before it could launch. The unabashedly singleplayer-focused Tempest Rising and maybe DORF and ZeroSpace (although that one is heavily tied to professional SC2 tranny Scarlett) in the near future might represent a turn back towards singleplayer, but it's an exception.

I'd point to consolisation and the end of PC gaming as a distinct medium as at least as big a factor as everyone chasing the e-sports money; no-one other than Phil Spencer (whose favourite game is Starcraft 64 and who probably the sole reason behind Halo Wars 2 and Age of Empires 2 and 4 being ported to the Xbox) cares about RTS on consoles and that's the audience that big money started chasing, while making a good RTS is hard and so indie efforts have flailed around for the most part.

Another factor leading to the death was one that did come up in the video - RTS is a weird blend of strategy and arcade elements and has mostly been segregated out into specific genres that contain only the parts people like - those who wanted to turtle and build nice bases can play Cities: Skylines or Factorio; those who enjoyed gookclick can play DotA (which, after all, started its life as a WC3 custom map) and so on.

As a final note, the Spring Engine games (most notably Zero-K and Beyond All Reason) have established themselves a niche for open-source indie RTS descended from Total Annihilation, heavily multiplayer-focused but not e-sports, tangential to all of the rest.
 
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