UN Venezuela Megathread - Mercenaries 2 references galore! Cubanodun is MVP

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I honestly hope I'm wrong, but as a 3rd world dweller myself, I see this pattern almost every election.

Believe it or not we are the reason that all the pseudo socialists/communist governments of south america have fallen, in every election for example in Colombia and Brazil the campaign of Bolsonaro and Duque was "you see our neighbors in Venezuela coming to our country to buy toilet paper, you want that here too?" boom, instant win, no one want to be the next Venezuela except apparently Mexico
 
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I love this photo, its like a faction form a scrapped Fallout 4 DLC.
 
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They keystone of US global power is its ability to have the back yard locked down. Undisputed control of the Caribbean region ensures that the USA can operate as it pleases in the entire Western hemisphere. This shake up in Venezuela during a time of US government paralysis is exactly what the Russians and Chinese were hoping for when they endeavored to exacerbate the divisions in American society during the 2016 elections.

What we are seeing play out now is the best chance since the Cold War for an Old World power to regain a foothold in the Americas to challenge US dominance over the hemisphere and therefore the world at large.

Watch the Chinese, they are being quiet. Russian bluster is to be expected but Russia becomes Beijing's puppet more and more as time passes.
I know I'm probably late but if China or Russia try to make a move Orange Man could use the Monroe Doctrine as justification keep them out
 
They tried to make it productive but when they seized the farms they also fired all the personal that made all the job and instead put dumb idiots that were registered in the social programs to work on it, the results was total disaster, i mean come on you were putting literally morons to run key companies, they still had the balls to blame USA and capitalism for the industries they fucked

So not only are they ripping off Kim Jong-Un, they're also ripping off Mugabe too.
 
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I know I'm probably late but if China or Russia try to make a move Orange Man could use the Monroe Doctrine as justification keep them out

China struggles to project in it's own backyard and Russia's not likely to do anything provocative, especially half way around the world when they have the EU to torment just next door.
 
I honestly hope I'm wrong, but as a 3rd world dweller myself, I see this pattern almost every election.

I bet that when/if Maduro leaves, Venezuelans will vote in another leftie populist who will maintain the shitholeness of the country. That's the mindset of most of 3rd world people: as long as government gives some 'welfare' crumbs to their household, they don't care if everything around them is on fire.
And that's why most of 3rd world nations will keep in a vicious circle of underdevelopment. (I can't think of an exception, but probably there is).

The issue with all of these cultures is that they're cultures of patronage.

You have a patron that gives you stuff in exchange for allegiance and support. With Latin culture it goes back all the way through the Spanish Empire to Rome. Socialism just made it so that the government is every bodies patron. Rome basically fucked itself the same way with bread and circuses and Spain did the same by having more than a million clergy lazing about in exchange for propaganda and loyalty.

Changing the system isn't gonna fix it because its cultural. Oddly enough, countries like Chile, Argentina and Costa Rica were able to brute force their way of this system through immigration and great men.

The Philippines was basically given the same democratic foundation as the USA but it became a shithole because of its Spanish roots. You'll probably see the same thing that happened to Chile happen to the Philippines because of Duterte, people moving towards a focus on the benefits of a good institution rather than any patron.
 
So the one war that Trump starts is one that will end up feeding venezuelan population?

Even then, you probably can't say Trump started this war if Maduro starts fucking with foreign embassies.
 
autistic, tough guy shit
America should try funding jihadists to fight the communists. It worked really well in Afghanistan, which is now a paradise with a thriving medicinal herb industry, limited government intervention, and where conservative values reign supreme.

We already know your avatar and nickname, we got it. Hating orange man is one thing, make halal worthy posts is another.
 
There was an article specifically talking about it a couple years ago, but I can't seem to find it, here is what I currently have. There's a lot of fluff so I'll just post what I think is relevant.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/venezuelans-regret-gun-prohibition-we-could-have-defended-ourselves
Under the direction of then-President Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan National Assembly in 2012 enacted the “Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament Law,” with the explicit aim to “disarm all citizens.” The law took effect in 2013, with only minimal pushback from some pro-democracy opposition figures, banned the legal commercial sale of guns and munitions to all - except government entities...

Chavez initially ran a months-long amnesty program encouraging Venezuelans to trade their arms for electrical goods. That year, there were only 37 recorded voluntary gun surrenders, while the majority of seizures - more than 12,500 – were by force...

Much of the crime has been attributed by analysts to government-backed gangs – referred to in Spanish as “collectivos” – who were deliberately put in place by the government.

“They were set up by the government to act as proxies and exert community control. They're the guys on the motorcycles in the poor neighborhoods, who killed any protesters,” said Vanessa Neumann, the Venezuelan-American president and founder of Asymmetrica, a Washington, D.C.-based political risk research and consulting firm. “The gun reform policy of the government was about social control. As the citizenry got more desperate and hungry and angry with the political situation, they did not want them to be able to defend themselves. It was not about security; it was about a monopoly on violence and social control.”

So while Venezuelan citizens were stripped of their legal recourse to bear arms, the “collectivos” – established by Chavez when came to power – were legally locked and loaded. Deemed crucial to the survival of the socialist dictatorship, the “collectivos” function to brutally subjugate opposition groups, while saving some face as they aren’t officially government forces, critics contend...

https://freebeacon.com/issues/socia...porters-outlawing-confiscating-civilian-guns/
Maduro plans to arm 400,000 supporters amid protests and unrest

The socialist leader of Venezuela announced in a speech to regime loyalists his plan to arm hundreds of thousands of supporters after a years-long campaign to confiscate civilian-owned guns.

"A gun for every militiaman!" Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro said to uniformed militia members outside the presidential palace, Fox News reported on Tuesday. The Bolivarian militias, created by Maduro's predecessor Hugo Chavez, already number in the hundreds of thousands and are being used to supplement the regime's armed forces. Maduro is boosting the number of armed supporters in hopes of keeping control over the country from what he labels "imperialist aggression."

The arming of Maduro's supporters comes five years after Venezuela's socialist regime outlawed the commercial sale and civilian ownership of firearms. Only the military, police, and groups like security companies can buy guns and only directly from one state-run arms company under the law passed in 2012, according to the BBC. The country recently doubled down on its gun ban through a combination of gun buybacks and confiscations in the summer of 2016.

So we have 400,000 people [at least] getting guns 5 years after a gun ban, and the government handing out the guns has no means to manufacture them or buy them, since they don't have the tools or resources to make them, nor the money to buy them, not to mention the arms embargo imposed by the US/NATO/OAS.

To make it a little more clear, here are some of the "militiamen."
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Some civilian (probably export Imbel) FAL knockoff, doesn't even have a magazine.

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Literally carrying shitty milsurp Mosins

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Here's the BMOC himself inspecting a militiaman's AR-15

The point is that these militias are disorganized, grabastic groups of thugs that are being armed by the government with any firearms they have available. There is very little uniformity other than the prevalence of what are obviously repurposed civilian firearms and old ass military surplus that at one point were probably in a crate in the back of a civilian gun store. I am not saying that militaries don't keep old equipment in reserve, but they definitely don't keep these relics and civilian pattern firearms in armories. This is the equivalent of Uncle Sam handing out M1 Garands and Springfield M1903s.
I thought the militias were pretty uniformly armed with surplus Russian Mosins except for the ones they trust who get FALs, M4s and AKs and wear camouflage whereas the the ones they don't trust wear Khaki uniforms.
 
when your trusted paramilitary forces are carrying WW1 era bolt action rifles, it really is time to take a step back and think about what the fuck you did wrong to end up in such desperate poverty.
even nignog rebel groups in the fucking congo at least manage to get their hands on AKs. venezuelans are literally poorer than africans.

To be fair, the Venezuelan military has so many autistic branches, you're probably looking at the absolute shittiest iteration. I remember they had a big order for some AK-103s to arm the regular army, and they gave the now-surplused FALs to the National Guard. There's also apparently a separate "National Militia."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolivarian_Armed_Forces_of_Venezuela
 
Maduro supporters taking the streets.

It's only a handful of people, compared to the millions in anti-Maduro marches we've seen in pictures and videos. They might as well be overrun and thrown to the Orinoco river.
 
There is more pro-maduro people marching in other countries. How odd.

No that sounds about right, more spoiled ignorant college brats in other countries that don't realise in an actual people's revolution, they won't be in the Party, they'll be down the salt mines, on the farms, in the gulags or against the wall.

Fuck me that was depressing. Why did I read that?

Ahh the lesser known motto of The Farms. It's nice to see it continues in some form.
 
Changing the system isn't gonna fix it because its cultural. Oddly enough, countries like Chile, Argentina and Costa Rica were able to brute force their way of this system through immigration and great men.
Chile sadly is coming back into bananerism, the right over here is full of old idiots desperate for approval of any kind, and the left is getting more and more popular between the younger population, our president is cucking out my country and we even have our own AOC equivalent doing stupid shit in Congress.
 
maduro isn't THAT dumb
he'll just leave the embassy alone, at most he'll order a lockdown to prevent people from going in and out
The most likely ending to this little standoff is Maduro pillaging what little is left of Venezuela's wealth and fleeing to Mexico or Turkey.
 
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